Not that I have any intention of levelling yet another toon, 6 is enough, but if/when my wife makes me roll yet another one to grind up with her I would like the option to pick my start.

Can my old toons can have missing points? Pleasey pleasey. Good @ZOS, nice @ZOS.

Would need more character slots to experience this if it was a thing -looks at Zos-

Imo, its best you start in a chapter for the extra skillpoint, then make a run for the starter city in the base game and then start in coldharbor for that skillpoint

Iccotak wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Imo, its best you start in a chapter for the extra skillpoint, then make a run for the starter city in the base game and then start in coldharbor for that skillpoint

Sounds like a simple problem with an easy solution. Just give the Coldharbor beginners equal starting skill points to those who started in a chapter.

they havnt been able to solve that for pre chapter characters

Could have been a third option:

3. Choose starting in Cold Harbour (recommended for beginners),
Then when want to start Morrowind (DLC content), you can choose to begin in the start for it,
Then when want to start Summerset (Expansion content), you can choose to begin in the start for it.

So you can have all three starts....

Iccotak wrote: »

weedgenius wrote: »

New players would have no idea which beginning they want, and the beginning is intended for them.

This is probabaly why
1. This could pertain to the second character a new player makes. Giving them time and experience to understand what is going on.

2. There would be a tab in character creation asking; "Which chapter do you wish to start with?"
Coldharbor
Morrowind
Summerset
etc
And it would provide a brief explanation as to what each chapter is

I agree.

One simple way to do this would be to include the option in the 'skip tutorial' dialogue box. When you make your first character you are not offered that choice, you have to go through the tutorial, so for newbies it's easy - they make their character, get dropped into the latest expansion and go where the game tells them. Well, it's easy at first, I've seen a lot more posts from new players who are confused about how to start the main story or just generally where to go and what to do since Morrowind was released than before. Maybe there's just more newbies in general, but the impressive I've gotten is that the current format is confusing.

But anyway, on your 2nd character and any you make after that you're then offered a choice, just like you are now. But instead of simply play the tutorial or skip it you get 4 options:

• Skip tutorial (starts you in the current default location, which I assume is Summerset)
• Start in Coldharbour
• Start in Morrowind
• Start in Summerset

And of course the list could be expanded as more expansions are released.

I know it seems like a minor thing for people who don't care about role-playing or having a coherent story because you can just fast travel to the starting point for the bit you want to do first, but there are players who care about the story too. It makes absolutely no sense that my breton warden would leave Daggerfall, travel to Morrowind, get captured by slavers, escape and then immediately go all the way back to Daggerfall...but that's the only choice I had. Of course I could pretend that never happened but I hate doing that, if I have to act like part of the game didn't happen to get a coherent story then that's bad writing somewhere along the line and whether it's me or the developer doing it it's not something I'm comfortable with.

The game should start everyone at coldharbor and guide new player to play the questline in order. Nothing worse then spoiling the storyline yourself

I just imagine a new player having to decide where to start, without actually understanding anything about what's going on. I think maybe it's better to not overwhelm new player with choices before they have any idea of what they're doing. It's not like you're missing out on very much by starting in one chapter over another.

As an established player, you can simply skip the tutorial and port to wherever you would like to start the story from.

I would down-vote OP if I could for biased poll.

Agenericname wrote: »

The current system isn't very intuitive In terms of finding the main quest line for new players.

I agree with this. I think they should find a way to make it completely obvious how to start a main quest. Easiest thing that comes to mind would be the "Quest Starters" tab in the crown store. Have a quest starter for every main alliance story line, chapter, and DLC.

This should have been obvious to Zeni from the beginning. But hey, it’s probably our fault for expecting Zeni to actually put more than minimum effort into these things.

weedgenius wrote: »

New players would have no idea which beginning they want, and the beginning is intended for them.

The problem is the main story is another town and if you are truly new to ESO you won't know where to go to start the main story line from the original ESO.

I think that if you never played Cold Harbor that should be the initial start for all NEW first time players. Once you do that, than the game opens up the ability to select which place you wish to start at.

Iccotak wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

I just imagine a new player having to decide where to start, without actually understanding anything about what's going on. I think maybe it's better to not overwhelm new player with choices before they have any idea of what they're doing. It's not like you're missing out on very much by starting in one chapter over another.

As an established player, you can simply skip the tutorial and port to wherever you would like to start the story from.

I would down-vote OP if I could for biased poll.

How am I being biased? I don't think there is a third side here
I presented both sides fairly.
Just like the option you chose said; You don't think of it as an inconvenience since you can drop the chapter if you want to start with Coldharbor.

You don't see an inconvenience and don't think it is enough of a problem for developers to invest time and money into.
Is that an unfair take on your perspective?

As to overwhelming new players this has been addressed by people throughout the thread already.

Danikat wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

weedgenius wrote: »

New players would have no idea which beginning they want, and the beginning is intended for them.

This is probabaly why
1. This could pertain to the second character a new player makes. Giving them time and experience to understand what is going on.

2. There would be a tab in character creation asking; "Which chapter do you wish to start with?"
Coldharbor
Morrowind
Summerset
etc
And it would provide a brief explanation as to what each chapter is

I agree.

One simple way to do this would be to include the option in the 'skip tutorial' dialogue box. When you make your first character you are not offered that choice, you have to go through the tutorial, so for newbies it's easy - they make their character, get dropped into the latest expansion and go where the game tells them. Well, it's easy at first, I've seen a lot more posts from new players who are confused about how to start the main story or just generally where to go and what to do since Morrowind was released than before. Maybe there's just more newbies in general, but the impressive I've gotten is that the current format is confusing.

But anyway, on your 2nd character and any you make after that you're then offered a choice, just like you are now. But instead of simply play the tutorial or skip it you get 4 options:

• Skip tutorial (starts you in the current default location, which I assume is Summerset)
• Start in Coldharbour
• Start in Morrowind
• Start in Summerset

And of course the list could be expanded as more expansions are released.

I know it seems like a minor thing for people who don't care about role-playing or having a coherent story because you can just fast travel to the starting point for the bit you want to do first, but there are players who care about the story too. It makes absolutely no sense that my breton warden would leave Daggerfall, travel to Morrowind, get captured by slavers, escape and then immediately go all the way back to Daggerfall...but that's the only choice I had. Of course I could pretend that never happened but I hate doing that, if I have to act like part of the game didn't happen to get a coherent story then that's bad writing somewhere along the line and whether it's me or the developer doing it it's not something I'm comfortable with.

I guess I may have misinterpreted what you meant by "you can drop the chapter". Looked to me like you were suggesting that a player not purchase the chapters, if they want to start with the original story line.

I see your argument for new players but still disagree. People (me included) spend hours in character creation as is, this would inevitably add to that for new players who are trying to ensure that they start out at the best possible point. As a new player, I wouldn't necessarily understand how inconsequential your starting point is.

It would be one thing if you were locked into a particular story from the start, but you're not.