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DuskMarine wrote: »

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DuskMarine wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

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ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

This seems rather like you were doing something that you were not supposed to be doing with the said characters. As you are a pvp player I can just guess how toxic your private chat can be sometimes/how your actions can be toxic themselves. If you like to tbag ppl that would be a clear reason for me at least to lock your character.

If it was a ban it'd be account wide, this is just another ZOS issue. Make a ticket

if anybody ever got locked for tbagging they should litterally be able to sue for it cause thats wrongful as hell to even do that for. who doesnt tbag on games since halo became a thing years ago.

Any kind of harassment is against the ToS and is a bannable offence. I have seen people get suspended for Stalking/Harassing a particular player, and some of it was due to excessive tbagging. Taken too far, it is against the ToS.

nope its not the people who have had that happen hunt the people on purpose(as if your sitting there getting tbagged thats your fault at that point). when you die your bound to be miles away from where you died unless your part of a zerg throwing yourself at something. if the same person is killing you and tbagging you and your always being found by them then you can report them for it. but tbagging is not and never has been a bannable offense.

Cant give you any details as that is also against the ToS, but the instance I am referring to did not happen in cyro. It was harassment and the person was suspended for quite some time. I cant say more. Just know that you are wrong on this. Perhaps you should read the ToS. Most people have no idea what it says.

i aint wrong. and you just practically proved it as at that point the person is following them from place to place which is why they got it not because they tbagged anyone.

Buddy, it's against the code of conduct and ToS to harass other players in this game, and teabagging is a disrespectful action taken, by your very own words, to anger and humiliate your opponent. It's poor form, poor sportsmanship, and indicative of what kind of person you really are when nobody can see your face.

ZOS can ban anybody they want, at any time, without the risk of legal ramifications or retaliation. That's something you also agree to in the ToS when you launch the game for the first time, and it is not revocable from your side of the agreement.

Furthermore, claiming that teabagging is analogous to a tradition from older games such as Halo, and inferring that that makes it right is, in itself, a fallacy that drives a lot of people down self destructive and isolated roads, generally through their own ignorance. Tradition, as this is practically, is no excuse for behavior, good or bad, under society's standards. It simply gives people the ill-conceived notion that they are always in the right with their actions, and lifts the burden of critical thinking off of their shoulders.

Until you can factually disprove these statements, any further input by you isn't going to help your case.

ah but heres the thing that your missing and let me educate you because what he said proved me 100% right. he said it wasnt in pvp land guess what that means this person was following them around wayshrine to wayshrine area to area that right there can get you banned if you do it to long. tbagging not so much as its practically a esports hilarity reel thing to see a person tbag somebody. its not bannable or even trolling if it was it wouldnt be recognized as funny across all games by so many players. so no you cant be banned and will never be banned for tbagging someone if they try it sue them easy win. its been around since halo and nobodies ever been banned for tbagging a kill so put the blame on something else that mightve legitly got his characters locked.

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tbagging once again doesnt fall under any of that sooo >_>

DuskMarine wrote: »

have you played halo at all?? tbagging isnt even an offense its purely to do what just talking about it is doing to you. its meant to make you mad thats the whole point. they cant ban you for it and theyd have some big time problems if they ever did ban a person wrongfully because you can go after them if they have wrongfully banned you especially if you have money invested.

Harass, stalk, threaten, embarrass, spam or do anything else to another user of any Services that is unwanted

Go ahead and explain how it's supposed to make people mad without being disrespectful. And you still haven't touched on the fact that your account can be terminated at any time with no legal recourse available to you, per the TOS.

wrongful termination totally voids the tos(thus is how so many gaming companies do get sued by most players unrightfully banned). second tbagging is none of those things you highlighted nor is it anything you didnt highlight. its a universally understood language amoung 99% of the hardcore and competitive gamers. it litterally means i killed you step it up. its meant to be in your face. so many people litterally laugh it off. is it meant by some to make them mad yes it is cause some making them mad actually makes them play better. again tbagging isnt and will never be a bannable offense drop it already.

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

This seems rather like you were doing something that you were not supposed to be doing with the said characters. As you are a pvp player I can just guess how toxic your private chat can be sometimes/how your actions can be toxic themselves. If you like to tbag ppl that would be a clear reason for me at least to lock your character.

If it was a ban it'd be account wide, this is just another ZOS issue. Make a ticket

if anybody ever got locked for tbagging they should litterally be able to sue for it cause thats wrongful as hell to even do that for. who doesnt tbag on games since halo became a thing years ago.

Any kind of harassment is against the ToS and is a bannable offence. I have seen people get suspended for Stalking/Harassing a particular player, and some of it was due to excessive tbagging. Taken too far, it is against the ToS.

nope its not the people who have had that happen hunt the people on purpose(as if your sitting there getting tbagged thats your fault at that point). when you die your bound to be miles away from where you died unless your part of a zerg throwing yourself at something. if the same person is killing you and tbagging you and your always being found by them then you can report them for it. but tbagging is not and never has been a bannable offense.

Cant give you any details as that is also against the ToS, but the instance I am referring to did not happen in cyro. It was harassment and the person was suspended for quite some time. I cant say more. Just know that you are wrong on this. Perhaps you should read the ToS. Most people have no idea what it says.

i aint wrong. and you just practically proved it as at that point the person is following them from place to place which is why they got it not because they tbagged anyone.

Buddy, it's against the code of conduct and ToS to harass other players in this game, and teabagging is a disrespectful action taken, by your very own words, to anger and humiliate your opponent. It's poor form, poor sportsmanship, and indicative of what kind of person you really are when nobody can see your face.

ZOS can ban anybody they want, at any time, without the risk of legal ramifications or retaliation. That's something you also agree to in the ToS when you launch the game for the first time, and it is not revocable from your side of the agreement.

Furthermore, claiming that teabagging is analogous to a tradition from older games such as Halo, and inferring that that makes it right is, in itself, a fallacy that drives a lot of people down self destructive and isolated roads, generally through their own ignorance. Tradition, as this is practically, is no excuse for behavior, good or bad, under society's standards. It simply gives people the ill-conceived notion that they are always in the right with their actions, and lifts the burden of critical thinking off of their shoulders.

Until you can factually disprove these statements, any further input by you isn't going to help your case.

ah but heres the thing that your missing and let me educate you because what he said proved me 100% right. he said it wasnt in pvp land guess what that means this person was following them around wayshrine to wayshrine area to area that right there can get you banned if you do it to long. tbagging not so much as its practically a esports hilarity reel thing to see a person tbag somebody. its not bannable or even trolling if it was it wouldnt be recognized as funny across all games by so many players. so no you cant be banned and will never be banned for tbagging someone if they try it sue them easy win. its been around since halo and nobodies ever been banned for tbagging a kill so put the blame on something else that mightve legitly got his characters locked.

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In addition, ZeniMax reserves the right to restrict, suspend or terminate these Terms of Service and Your Account immediately and without notice to You if (i) You breach these Terms of Service, (ii) infringe or violate any third party rights, including without limitation third party intellectual rights, (iii) if ZeniMax is unable to verify or authenticate any information You provide to ZeniMax, or (iv) upon Your use of Services, for any other activity whatsoever that is, in ZeniMax's sole discretion, unlawful, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of these Terms of Service or a Service, including without limitation Your actions in a Game(s) or forums.


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tbagging once again doesnt fall under any of that sooo >_>

DuskMarine wrote: »

have you played halo at all?? tbagging isnt even an offense its purely to do what just talking about it is doing to you. its meant to make you mad thats the whole point. they cant ban you for it and theyd have some big time problems if they ever did ban a person wrongfully because you can go after them if they have wrongfully banned you especially if you have money invested.

Harass, stalk, threaten, embarrass, spam or do anything else to another user of any Services that is unwanted

Go ahead and explain how it's supposed to make people mad without being disrespectful. And you still haven't touched on the fact that your account can be terminated at any time with no legal recourse available to you, per the TOS.

wrongful termination totally voids the tos(thus is how so many gaming companies do get sued by most players unrightfully banned). second tbagging is none of those things you highlighted nor is it anything you didnt highlight. its a universally understood language amoung 99% of the hardcore and competitive gamers. it litterally means i killed you step it up. its meant to be in your face. so many people litterally laugh it off. is it meant by some to make them mad yes it is cause some making them mad actually makes them play better. again tbagging isnt and will never be a bannable offense drop it already.

Please cite your sources. There has to be precedent somewhere for ESO, some proof that what you say is the accepted method from ZOS themselves, right?

Right now, you're arguing against the ToS, which is the be all, end all of this discussion.

DuskMarine wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

This seems rather like you were doing something that you were not supposed to be doing with the said characters. As you are a pvp player I can just guess how toxic your private chat can be sometimes/how your actions can be toxic themselves. If you like to tbag ppl that would be a clear reason for me at least to lock your character.

If it was a ban it'd be account wide, this is just another ZOS issue. Make a ticket

if anybody ever got locked for tbagging they should litterally be able to sue for it cause thats wrongful as hell to even do that for. who doesnt tbag on games since halo became a thing years ago.

Any kind of harassment is against the ToS and is a bannable offence. I have seen people get suspended for Stalking/Harassing a particular player, and some of it was due to excessive tbagging. Taken too far, it is against the ToS.

nope its not the people who have had that happen hunt the people on purpose(as if your sitting there getting tbagged thats your fault at that point). when you die your bound to be miles away from where you died unless your part of a zerg throwing yourself at something. if the same person is killing you and tbagging you and your always being found by them then you can report them for it. but tbagging is not and never has been a bannable offense.

Cant give you any details as that is also against the ToS, but the instance I am referring to did not happen in cyro. It was harassment and the person was suspended for quite some time. I cant say more. Just know that you are wrong on this. Perhaps you should read the ToS. Most people have no idea what it says.

i aint wrong. and you just practically proved it as at that point the person is following them from place to place which is why they got it not because they tbagged anyone.

Buddy, it's against the code of conduct and ToS to harass other players in this game, and teabagging is a disrespectful action taken, by your very own words, to anger and humiliate your opponent. It's poor form, poor sportsmanship, and indicative of what kind of person you really are when nobody can see your face.

ZOS can ban anybody they want, at any time, without the risk of legal ramifications or retaliation. That's something you also agree to in the ToS when you launch the game for the first time, and it is not revocable from your side of the agreement.

Furthermore, claiming that teabagging is analogous to a tradition from older games such as Halo, and inferring that that makes it right is, in itself, a fallacy that drives a lot of people down self destructive and isolated roads, generally through their own ignorance. Tradition, as this is practically, is no excuse for behavior, good or bad, under society's standards. It simply gives people the ill-conceived notion that they are always in the right with their actions, and lifts the burden of critical thinking off of their shoulders.

Until you can factually disprove these statements, any further input by you isn't going to help your case.

ah but heres the thing that your missing and let me educate you because what he said proved me 100% right. he said it wasnt in pvp land guess what that means this person was following them around wayshrine to wayshrine area to area that right there can get you banned if you do it to long. tbagging not so much as its practically a esports hilarity reel thing to see a person tbag somebody. its not bannable or even trolling if it was it wouldnt be recognized as funny across all games by so many players. so no you cant be banned and will never be banned for tbagging someone if they try it sue them easy win. its been around since halo and nobodies ever been banned for tbagging a kill so put the blame on something else that mightve legitly got his characters locked.

DuskMarine wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

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DuskMarine wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

This seems rather like you were doing something that you were not supposed to be doing with the said characters. As you are a pvp player I can just guess how toxic your private chat can be sometimes/how your actions can be toxic themselves. If you like to tbag ppl that would be a clear reason for me at least to lock your character.

If it was a ban it'd be account wide, this is just another ZOS issue. Make a ticket

if anybody ever got locked for tbagging they should litterally be able to sue for it cause thats wrongful as hell to even do that for. who doesnt tbag on games since halo became a thing years ago.

Any kind of harassment is against the ToS and is a bannable offence. I have seen people get suspended for Stalking/Harassing a particular player, and some of it was due to excessive tbagging. Taken too far, it is against the ToS.

nope its not the people who have had that happen hunt the people on purpose(as if your sitting there getting tbagged thats your fault at that point). when you die your bound to be miles away from where you died unless your part of a zerg throwing yourself at something. if the same person is killing you and tbagging you and your always being found by them then you can report them for it. but tbagging is not and never has been a bannable offense.

Cant give you any details as that is also against the ToS, but the instance I am referring to did not happen in cyro. It was harassment and the person was suspended for quite some time. I cant say more. Just know that you are wrong on this. Perhaps you should read the ToS. Most people have no idea what it says.

i aint wrong. and you just practically proved it as at that point the person is following them from place to place which is why they got it not because they tbagged anyone.

Buddy, it's against the code of conduct and ToS to harass other players in this game, and teabagging is a disrespectful action taken, by your very own words, to anger and humiliate your opponent. It's poor form, poor sportsmanship, and indicative of what kind of person you really are when nobody can see your face.

ZOS can ban anybody they want, at any time, without the risk of legal ramifications or retaliation. That's something you also agree to in the ToS when you launch the game for the first time, and it is not revocable from your side of the agreement.

Furthermore, claiming that teabagging is analogous to a tradition from older games such as Halo, and inferring that that makes it right is, in itself, a fallacy that drives a lot of people down self destructive and isolated roads, generally through their own ignorance. Tradition, as this is practically, is no excuse for behavior, good or bad, under society's standards. It simply gives people the ill-conceived notion that they are always in the right with their actions, and lifts the burden of critical thinking off of their shoulders.

Until you can factually disprove these statements, any further input by you isn't going to help your case.

ah but heres the thing that your missing and let me educate you because what he said proved me 100% right. he said it wasnt in pvp land guess what that means this person was following them around wayshrine to wayshrine area to area that right there can get you banned if you do it to long. tbagging not so much as its practically a esports hilarity reel thing to see a person tbag somebody. its not bannable or even trolling if it was it wouldnt be recognized as funny across all games by so many players. so no you cant be banned and will never be banned for tbagging someone if they try it sue them easy win. its been around since halo and nobodies ever been banned for tbagging a kill so put the blame on something else that mightve legitly got his characters locked.

No, it doesnt mean that at all and is not the case. You just assume too much to even talk to.

thats what you clearly described >_> but you cant really talk to people on these forums i guess.

Rain_Greyraven wrote: »

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

This seems rather like you were doing something that you were not supposed to be doing with the said characters. As you are a pvp player I can just guess how toxic your private chat can be sometimes/how your actions can be toxic themselves. If you like to tbag ppl that would be a clear reason for me at least to lock your character.

I don't want to paint with as broad a brush as your'e using.....but

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