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Sload sets inevitable future...
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MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
Incorrect. Zaan is the most OP proc set in the game and is overdue for a nerf. A simple change that would fix it, and not harm PvE would be to have it so when Zaan procs it spawns from a static point. This way when you run from Zaan it doesn't follow you.
We don't need nerfs due to pvp.0 -
Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Something can surely buff sloads, i had 7 tics for 8.somethingK dmg on me in a bg the other night.0 -
Jailbirdy✭✭✭✭✭purge.....
move along....
these aren't the nerfs your looking for....Disclaimer: The statements and information from this account are for entertainment & informational purposes only. Any interpretation, implied or otherwise does not constitute negligence on any part of this forum posting.0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
Did he really say this?
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molecule✭✭✭✭✭
✭Waffennacht wrote: »People are so very misinformed here
CP does not reduce sload damage nor does CP increase sload damage
then why does the tooltip for the set show increased damage with additional points in thaum?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i simply would like to know, b/c something broken af, here.
Because the tooltip is wrong/broken
If you gold up a piece of Sloads it show 1000+ damage on the piece, but it still only hits for 853 ( confirmed in CombatMetrics )0 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I've honestly never seen such an outcry on the forums over a single set - even the EOTS in its prime or the old viper/veli proc meta didn't see as much noise (and those were more about the combination of procs rather than a single set).
Given the scale of this outcry, I honestly can't imagine ZOS not nerfing it. (One of the reasons I've never acquired it - along with generally being poor and not being able to afford stuff that is likely to feel the nerf-hammer).
Personally I think its a tad too strong, even though I've adjusted my builds to counter.. but I'm probably playing the 2 classes most able to handle it.
But I also think that defile is perhaps bigger demon here.. the only counter to sloads is healing.. the counter to healing is defile - which is very strong and very easy to get along with sloads.
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BigBadVolk✭✭✭✭✭VilniusNastavnik wrote: »
ye, even though there is an easy solution to all these problems, make damage procs only on mobs and bosses"The ass is similar to the opinion: Everyone has it, but no one cares about the others!"
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Anastian✭✭✭Zaan is very powerful, but again, if you cloak/purge/rolldodge away you can break free from it. It sure as hell forces you to immediatly take countermeasures (whereas a Skoria or Selene proc might be something you decide to shrug off to finish bursting down an opponent or to heal right after you land a cc), but it's not unavoidable. Only DKs have serious issues with it due to the lack of mobility and purges.
If it requires some correction, it's just minor. Sload on the other hand is applied so easily (compared to zaan, which requires melee range AND keeping melee range) it's plain unfair, especially as every single class can run it with minimal opportunity cost (replace shacklebreaker for example, so lose a bit of regen and 1k of stamina and magicka for an incounterable dot that breaks cloaks, burns through shields etc). If you choose zaan, you are forfeiting another monster set, with sload you can just stack it, and it's not like Caluurion which is magicka only and has stats that are lackluster at best in PvP (AND has a 10 secs cooldown). If you run Caluurion you know you are forfeiting loads of stats, so you are still facing a trade-off.
BTW, in my opinion Zaan's tradeoff is the need to stay melee and to be a magicka character, as a stamina has better options than Zaan.0 -
notyuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Everybody on the forums is going "sload is op this" and "sload is everywhere" that...and yet..despite playing BGs all day yesterday and most of today, I saw a grand total of...ONE sload's set in action...and the dot it slapped out was a joke, so my question is... what's the big deal?3 -
Dyride✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Something can surely buff sloads, i had 7 tics for 8.somethingK dmg on me in a bg the other night.
Could have been they had a Power Sigil but I don't know if that buffs it. Usually it will show 5x marks next to the DoT but if it was constantly reapplied then maybe it counted the last 10x ticks to get 8k damage.V Є H Є M Є И C Є
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Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
Citation or link please. Because in the class feedback conclusion thread it said that Zaan and Sloads were being looked at. I play health regen builds so the damage is a joke; but I can see how low sustain or low health builds would have massive issues with this set.0 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭you could say sloads is too powerful for you guys, right? I have no problem dealing with it so it can't be that bad...
but that's your argument when it comes down to it right? its too powerful for sorcs and nightblades?"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
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Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭They rekt the whole game instead there should be sets only for PvE and only for PvP...Edited by Malmai on June 15, 2018 5:58PM0 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »People are so very misinformed here
CP does not reduce sload damage nor does CP increase sload damage
then why does the tooltip for the set show increased damage with additional points in thaum?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i simply would like to know, b/c something broken af, here.
Because the tooltip is wrong/broken
If you gold up a piece of Sloads it show 1000+ damage on the piece, but it still only hits for 853 ( confirmed in CombatMetrics )
thanks, was just looking for confirmation that it was/is broken. my variation is 824 actual0/1059 tooltip (epic jewelry, gold staves)
makes me wonder how these people are pulling ungodly damage from it in pvp.1 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
it is being looked at as stated in a post from zos themselves so a nerf is coming for it. but i think your mistaking wheeler for wrobel cause i know wrobel was the one bashing players on how they couldnt counter sloads with heals that the thing basically negates.0 -
Jameliel✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've never considered myself very good at PvP in this game, but this thread makes me realize how much worse a lot of other players must be. How does weak a** Sloads hit you for 15k?:-)
I PvP on 2 toons. 1 is a tank healer. I get focused all the time, and though I occasionally see Sloads on the recap, it's never more than 2-3k damage. My other toon is a squishy magsorc. Death recaps don't show much Sload damage. If you're getting hit by multiple people at the same time, anything will kill you.1 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭We should just play the "new 5th bonus" game.
New 5th bonus to sloads: instead of damage...all nearby players with damage shields explode causing salt damage to all nearby players.
*salt status effect - baiting is 50% less detectable on zos forums."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.1 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
it is being looked at as stated in a post from zos themselves so a nerf is coming for it. but i think your mistaking wheeler for wrobel cause i know wrobel was the one bashing players on how they couldnt counter sloads with heals that the thing basically negates.
where is worbel doing that at? do you have links?
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DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
it is being looked at as stated in a post from zos themselves so a nerf is coming for it. but i think your mistaking wheeler for wrobel cause i know wrobel was the one bashing players on how they couldnt counter sloads with heals that the thing basically negates.
where is worbel doing that at? do you have links?
i learned it from someone in my discord who hangs with all that fairly tight compared to how i do so i trust him. and knowing wrobel...........yea i definitely believe it...............0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
it is being looked at as stated in a post from zos themselves so a nerf is coming for it. but i think your mistaking wheeler for wrobel cause i know wrobel was the one bashing players on how they couldnt counter sloads with heals that the thing basically negates.
where is worbel doing that at? do you have links?
i learned it from someone in my discord who hangs with all that fairly tight compared to how i do so i trust him. and knowing wrobel...........yea i definitely believe it...............
thats really disappointing if its true and further alienates him from the community1 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
it is being looked at as stated in a post from zos themselves so a nerf is coming for it. but i think your mistaking wheeler for wrobel cause i know wrobel was the one bashing players on how they couldnt counter sloads with heals that the thing basically negates.
where is worbel doing that at? do you have links?
i learned it from someone in my discord who hangs with all that fairly tight compared to how i do so i trust him. and knowing wrobel...........yea i definitely believe it...............
thats really disappointing if its true and further alienates him from the community
the only reason why i believe it is because wrobels track record is horrible for making the wrong decisions and backing up the worst decisions possible so i can believe anything that comes back about him just purely off of his reputation.0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
it is being looked at as stated in a post from zos themselves so a nerf is coming for it. but i think your mistaking wheeler for wrobel cause i know wrobel was the one bashing players on how they couldnt counter sloads with heals that the thing basically negates.
where is worbel doing that at? do you have links?
i learned it from someone in my discord who hangs with all that fairly tight compared to how i do so i trust him. and knowing wrobel...........yea i definitely believe it...............
thats really disappointing if its true and further alienates him from the community
the only reason why i believe it is because wrobels track record is horrible for making the wrong decisions and backing up the worst decisions possible so i can believe anything that comes back about him just purely off of his reputation.
does he even play the game he helps build?0 -
Thorstienn✭✭✭Everybody on the forums is going "sload is op this" and "sload is everywhere" that...and yet..despite playing BGs all day yesterday and most of today, I saw a grand total of...ONE sload's set in action...and the dot it slapped out was a joke, so my question is... what's the big deal?
^just this
Maybe it's a zerg thing in Cyro. But in BGs it goes; Implosion, executioner/Wrath, DB. Everything else seems rare and unnoticeable.Edited by Thorstienn on June 15, 2018 9:08PM1 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭hahahahaha--right...what about the rest of us that play the game and agree with the moves being made?"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
it is being looked at as stated in a post from zos themselves so a nerf is coming for it. but i think your mistaking wheeler for wrobel cause i know wrobel was the one bashing players on how they couldnt counter sloads with heals that the thing basically negates.
where is worbel doing that at? do you have links?
i learned it from someone in my discord who hangs with all that fairly tight compared to how i do so i trust him. and knowing wrobel...........yea i definitely believe it...............
thats really disappointing if its true and further alienates him from the community
the only reason why i believe it is because wrobels track record is horrible for making the wrong decisions and backing up the worst decisions possible so i can believe anything that comes back about him just purely off of his reputation.
does he even play the game he helps build?
i dont think he does unfortunately. as he doesnt understand what these sets really can do.0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Brian Wheeler stated at E3 that there will be no nerfs to sloads
it is being looked at as stated in a post from zos themselves so a nerf is coming for it. but i think your mistaking wheeler for wrobel cause i know wrobel was the one bashing players on how they couldnt counter sloads with heals that the thing basically negates.
where is worbel doing that at? do you have links?
i learned it from someone in my discord who hangs with all that fairly tight compared to how i do so i trust him. and knowing wrobel...........yea i definitely believe it...............
thats really disappointing if its true and further alienates him from the community
the only reason why i believe it is because wrobels track record is horrible for making the wrong decisions and backing up the worst decisions possible so i can believe anything that comes back about him just purely off of his reputation.
does he even play the game he helps build?
i dont think he does unfortunately. as he doesnt understand what these sets really can do.
ya probably not, they need people that understand this game and how people play helping design this game. guess that what the rep program is for0
