Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
So Zaan is going to be made into worthless PvE monster set because of PvP?
Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
Rofl are you really mentioning mitigation? You are aware 100k mitigation will not reduce oblivion damage by a single point right?
That's literally why oblivion damage is the dumbest thing they have introduced.......
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
No clue how sloads hit for 15k on you even if someone had 100 pts in thaumaturge + 66 pts in thick skinned. Do you bend over and let it do you worse or something because damn.
Also phys and spell resistances do nothing vs oblivion damage, only thick skinned helps.
DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
wow thats insane. heavy armor and all and it still hits that hard?
DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
Rofl are you really mentioning mitigation? You are aware 100k mitigation will not reduce oblivion damage by a single point right?
That's literally why oblivion damage is the dumbest thing they have introduced.......
well ill tell you why oblivion damage was introduced and its really sorcs faults. yes im going there but when a sorc throws up a shield you litterally cant hurt the guy unless you wanna sacrifice points into a useless champ star. but because of their shields is why oblivion damage is such a thing.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
Rofl are you really mentioning mitigation? You are aware 100k mitigation will not reduce oblivion damage by a single point right?
That's literally why oblivion damage is the dumbest thing they have introduced.......
Edit: assuming you mean resistances when you talk mitigation
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
No clue how sloads hit for 15k on you even if someone had 100 pts in thaumaturge + 66 pts in thick skinned. Do you bend over and let it do you worse or something because damn.
Also phys and spell resistances do nothing vs oblivion damage, only thick skinned helps.
Bottom line is we have been here before with proc sets. They just dont care. They made zaans to sell Dragon bones to PvPers and sloads for summerset. Players are always looking for the most competitive builds regardless of the cheese level.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
So Zaan is going to be made into worthless PvE monster set because of PvP?
DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
wow thats insane. heavy armor and all and it still hits that hard?
There is nothing that reduces oblivion damage......DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
Rofl are you really mentioning mitigation? You are aware 100k mitigation will not reduce oblivion damage by a single point right?
That's literally why oblivion damage is the dumbest thing they have introduced.......
well ill tell you why oblivion damage was introduced and its really sorcs faults. yes im going there but when a sorc throws up a shield you litterally cant hurt the guy unless you wanna sacrifice points into a useless champ star. but because of their shields is why oblivion damage is such a thing.
You cant blame sorcs lol zos introduced it because they are lazy developers when it comes to balance.
Then when they balance something they dont tweak the thing they introduced to counter the thing they were to lazy to balance, then we get to where we are.
Then you have permaderpers (blockers) which they couldn't stop so they introduced sets to counter that. Then they didnt fix the counters when they needed too.
See the cycle? It's not one classes fault, it's the developers, so dont blame a class..
Bottom line is we have been here before with proc sets. They just dont care. They made zaans to sell Dragon bones to PvPers and sloads for summerset. Players are always looking for the most competitive builds regardless of the cheese level.
But you don't need summerset to have sloads on.
So Zaan is going to be made into worthless PvE monster set because of PvP?
Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
Rofl are you really mentioning mitigation? You are aware 100k mitigation will not reduce oblivion damage by a single point right?
That's literally why oblivion damage is the dumbest thing they have introduced.......
Edit: assuming you mean resistances when you talk mitigationDuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
No clue how sloads hit for 15k on you even if someone had 100 pts in thaumaturge + 66 pts in thick skinned. Do you bend over and let it do you worse or something because damn.
Also phys and spell resistances do nothing vs oblivion damage, only thick skinned helps.
There are two separate conversations going on here. My numbers are in reference to Zaan, not Sloads. I personally don't think Sloads is that bad. Easily outhealed.
DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
wow thats insane. heavy armor and all and it still hits that hard?
There is nothing that reduces oblivion damage......DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
zaan aint that bad as people make it out to be you see that line roll dodge and its gone. but sloads.....ive seen people manage to pull over 10k with that dot in accordance with all their burst damage. so sloads needs looked at badly.
You seem to forget that people are running Zaan AND Sload’s
no again zaan thats a l2p and pay attention issue but sloads..........yea that sets just cancer.......but there is something that makes sloads alot more powerful but i wont name as i hope zos fixes it before long cause its fricken horrid.
It is called Thaumaturge
And there is a thing called thick skinned to counter it a little bit
Yup and I have 66 points into it, and it still does 15k+ damage to me with 27k mitigation.
Rofl are you really mentioning mitigation? You are aware 100k mitigation will not reduce oblivion damage by a single point right?
That's literally why oblivion damage is the dumbest thing they have introduced.......
well ill tell you why oblivion damage was introduced and its really sorcs faults. yes im going there but when a sorc throws up a shield you litterally cant hurt the guy unless you wanna sacrifice points into a useless champ star. but because of their shields is why oblivion damage is such a thing.
You cant blame sorcs lol zos introduced it because they are lazy developers when it comes to balance.
Then when they balance something they dont tweak the thing they introduced to counter the thing they were to lazy to balance, then we get to where we are.
Then you have permaderpers (blockers) which they couldn't stop so they introduced sets to counter that. Then they didnt fix the counters when they needed too.
See the cycle? It's not one classes fault, it's the developers, so dont blame a class..
i can because oblivion damage is one of the only ways to get through a shield of a sorc without moving stuff around screwing you on characters who dont have shields. so their 1 of the reasons not the whole reason but 1 of them
Peekachu99 wrote: »It’s gonna be nerfed, clearly. That and Zaan have been mentioned as being “looked at”.
Waffennacht wrote: »People are so very misinformed here
CP does not reduce sload damage nor does CP increase sload damage