Necromancy is a subset of the School of Conjuration, so I wouldnt mind getting a Conjuration Staff that happens to involve summoning and controlling spirits and the undead, such as the heroes of Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim were able to do.

However, that's Conjuration. (Or at least that's what we're telling our newfound friends in the Psijic Order so they don't expel us like they did Mannimarco.)

More mag offensive weapon options would be appreciated

I'd much prefer a necromancer class.

I'd prefer a skill line, since a lot of undead can do poison/disease/physical damage... But I also like the idea of having a non-elemental staff.

Just going to leave this here....

Ultimate: Flesh Colossus morphs to either poison or fire damage

Raise dead - Raise a zombie to fight at your side, has clawing attacks and vomit. Morph to either flesh atronach or decaying zombie who leaves a pool of AOE when it dies.
Drain life - Channeled DPS that heals caster and slows target, morph includes healing others/pets.
Summon specter - Summons a ghost to fight by your side, morphs to that fear ghost, or ice wraith
Ghostly grasp- that green hand that grasp a person, morphs to the grasping skeletal hands that slow/damage you or... ???
CORPSE EXPLOSION- sacrifice your precious pets, as well as any nearby NPC corpses to do X damage per in an X radius. Morphs to like, dot or increased damage?

Edit: I also picked the wrong option, your poll is misleading... OTHER.

If it shuts them up go for it..

Nope, would like it as its own class.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Its true that the only Conjuration players can access in ESO is daedra summoning and bound armor. That's not the case in Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim where Conjuration includes daedra summoning, bound armor and weapons, and the control and summoning or reanimation of the dead and spirits...

You have noticed that ESO is not using the same game system as TES-III:Morrowind, TES-IV:Oblivion or TES-V:Skyrim, yes?
...and they even made up some lore about how the eight schools of magic we all know from the earlier TES games set almost a millenia -after- the time of ESO are only taught in Shad Astula, and have just recently (in ESO time) been suggested as a good idea to the mages guild to adapt, yes?

And that is why I am saying, in the current ESO system, conjuration is mots notable among sorcerors, so... following the "Necromancy is a subset of Conjuration" reasoning it would make sense to implement it as optional "specialization" skill line for sorcerors, yes?

Though it might make just as much sense to make it a standalobe guild like the psijic order, with its oen DLC or something I guess.

VaranisArano wrote: »

Any mage can use Conjuration(which includes necromancy as a subset) so a staff or a skill line would make sense and be effective for any magicka class.

Any mage in TES-III:Morrowind, TES-IV:Oblivion or TES-V:Skyrim can do so. In ESO? That's up to ZOS, I fear. it is quite possible that in these second era times, many magical secrety are carefully guarded by diverse magically inclined organizations instead of freely available at your local mages guild...

All that being said, it -would- be interesting to have a third staff skill line. I mean, we have damage, and we have healing... a staff skill line that deals with buff, debuff and support effects might not be such a bad idea... but that would be a different discussion, to be had elsewhere, yes?

Wait what? ESO isn't exactly the same as Morroiwnd and Oblivion and Skyrim? Why did no one tell me before you did? My worldview is shattered!

Okay, sorry, got the sarcasm out of my system.

More seriously, I think we're arguing the same thing here. ZOS can implement Conjuration in the same way as in other TES games (or not) as they want. I'm pointing out that the precedent is there for necromancy to be used by player characters as a part of Conjuration in previous games. Whether or not ZOS chooses to do so with 2nd Era handwaving or focusing on sorcerers is entirely up to them. I mean, obviously ZOS makes the final decisions here as they have in other situations.

And I confess I don't understand you wanting to have a discussion about a 3rd staff line for Conjuration somewhere else when this is a thread about a necromancy staff, which as I said in my original post could easily function as a Conjuration staff, granting more Conjuration effects than currently available for sorcerers and bringing ESO's Conjuration magic more in line with those available in previous TES games. Talking about a necromancy staff is so on topic its the actual topic of the thread.

Ultimately the implementation of necromancy, or necromancy staffs, or Conjuration staffs, or really anything at all in the game is all ZOS' decision, of course. But personally, I think it would be fantastic if ZOS took more inspiration from previous TES games when they look to expand the current system for Conjuration. ESO is still an Elder Scrolls game and therefore comparisons with previous TES games are valid.

Fiktius wrote: »

Interesting kind of poll options you provided here.
But since there's no "I would love to see both in-game" option, I went with this OMG one.
I would love to get Blood Magic into the game, but I also would like to get an actual Necromancer class for ESO as well.

For Blood magic, try a Vampire Magblade using Siphoning. If you want the Dragon Age style of blood magic, I think you'll have to go play DA instead.

Fiktius wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Fiktius wrote: »

Interesting kind of poll options you provided here.
But since there's no "I would love to see both in-game" option, I went with this OMG one.
I would love to get Blood Magic into the game, but I also would like to get an actual Necromancer class for ESO as well.

For Blood magic, try a Vampire Magblade using Siphoning. If you want the Dragon Age style of blood magic, I think you'll have to go play DA instead.

We both know that vampire Magblade is not exactly as amazing as blood magic - skill line could be, if done well.
And no thanks, I'm not looking for another games which would include blood magic. I'm participating into thread which gives us a possibility to discuss about provided subject and blood magic happened to get my attention and interest.

Fair enough.