Isn't cyrodill in general, unfixed and ignored by devs?

In the example above the player was killed by the Lethal Arrow for the most part..and finished off by Lethal Fury. So that didn't prove much.

Watching my ESO brothers and sisters struggle with Cyro Lag + Bugs is like listening to a rich Beverly housewife telling herself that her billionaire playboy hubbie hasn't been cheating on her. Let us be very clear about one thing: ZOS hears us and knows exactly what they're doing with their Cyrodill experience.

On one hand, it feels pretty good pointing our fingers at Wrobel and Firor but in the end they are nothing but yes-men. Pawns in a sick corporate game where the Publisher and the Developer are working together to squeeze you for every penny (RedShell).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeniMax_Media

This is like having two branches of government that enable each other's corruption instead of holding each other accountable for their bad behavior.

As a result of this monopoly in the chain of command, we see a complete lack of accountability and good faith for Zenimax's customers. Case in point: one of our best and busiest streamers Kodi took time to annotate and upload bug lists to forums:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/385622/sword-board-ultimate-bug-5-elder-scrolls-online-clockwork-city

NONE of us will be surprised to learn that ZOS hasn't touched the bugs yet, but somehow they found time to ban Kodi for trying to take a slice of the pie. Twice.

No PvP experience is perfect, but if we want Cyrodill to be less of a joke, we have to stand up for these things and call ZOS out on their BS.

The new Class Representative program? FREE PR to help placate an increasingly unhappy player base. (Hint they exposed their true intentions for the program in their disclaimer when they said they can't guarantee any suggestions from Reps will be brought to fruition.) If ZOS was truly interested in adopting feedback from the community, does anyone here really believe they'd risk their image by adding that tidbit in their disclaimer?

I've played this game for years--I love the spirit of the game, I love the players. But the sun is getting low on Zenimax's complacency. This kind of corporate BS is simply unsustainable in a democratic market with free speech and grassroots potential.

agrr70 wrote: »

Passifest wrote: »

Hello this is Passifest bringing you another bug/exploit ignored for months by the devs. I present to you a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwcBpL9de9Q&feature=youtu.be

In the video there is 3 clear examples of a bug occurring with the snipe ability. You can clearly see the damage being done before the snipe has reached me in the video nullifying all forms of counter-play. The bug pertains to a discrepancy between the server registering damage and the client resulting in insta kills, snipes going through shields/reflects, and other problems. From the sniper's perspective you simply stealth and fire snipe 3 times.

Lulz , feed me your tears

I don't know you and I find your basic baiting sad and pathetic

dotme wrote: »

Hmm - Those death recaps. At 0:39 the hits were (in order...)

Light Attack - Player "A" - 2,187
Lethal Arrow - Player "B" - 11,027
Shock Torrent X3 - Mage Guard - 1,365
Light Attack - Player "A" - 2537
Endless Fury - Player "A" - 7,917 (Final killshot)

Lag affects a lot of stuff, but lag <> exploit IMHO and the examples are anything but clear to me.

dbgager wrote: »

In the example above the player was killed by the Lethal Arrow for the most part..and finished off by Lethal Fury. So that didn't prove much.

The problem is the arrow did not reach me before the dmg is dealt. You can clearly see me use wings and even roll before the animation has reached me. In the first clip you can clearly see the damage going through shields. What exactly isn't clear here? People suggesting there is no problem with how snipe damage behaves server side are just baffling.

If I’m playing at maximum awareness im tanky AF for a DPS Magplar due to shields and heals.

If I’m not paying attention, looking at my bag in the open like a dummy for example, dying to 2 completely impossible to avoid snipes can end me. I’ve had death recaps of like 22k, 22k or so. This definitely happens on console.

I’ve probably health dysnc died to archers 200 times over the years.

I got a 21k snipe on my stam warden s&b 8 impen full heavy armor, at first i was thinking of a bug too but then i followed this guy around and he was basically oneshotting everyone on his path.
I believe that out there someone created a broken build for snipers(with a combo of unbalanced cp assignment and sets) and it bypass every defense you have.

Passifest wrote: »

Tonnopesce wrote: »

I got a 21k snipe on my stam warden s&b 8 impen full heavy armor, at first i was thinking of a bug too but then i followed this guy around and he was basically oneshotting everyone on his path.
I believe that out there someone created a broken build for snipers(with a combo of unbalanced cp assignment and sets) and it bypass every defense you have.

I'm not arguing about whether the skill itself is op or not I am saying the skill is not syncing correctly between the server and client as evidenced by my video(snipes passing through shields/reflect/hitting all at once).

Nieter I'm i, broken builds are everywhere (at first i was thinking that the issue was the non persistent arrows and the high damage).
Honestly i believe that cast time + air time of lethal arrow can sometimes desinc from the server, when i play my stam NB in ganker mode and face a small group i simply spam arrows like there is no tomorrow because i know that if they touch me i get oneshotted ( due to the glasscannon nature of a ganker build) but a lot of times i manage to get akward kills a couple of seconds after i get killed.
Not much of an issue, i think.

pdebie64b16_ESO wrote: »

As a sniper i never see multiple snipes hit at the same time, there is always a delay equal to the cast time. Must be lag.

Yes well I imagine there is a difference between the sniper's view and the person being sniped

Vaoh wrote: »

No macros lol. Why do PC players always feel the need to blame their death on some sort of macro usage?

Snipe is very bugged, yes. It has been bugged since the beginning of time. The only thing that’s new in Summerset is the buff that Snipe builds actually got, which I won’t elaborate on because it’s kinda gross.

Also no, ZOS will not do anything about it. Hence why it has been an issue for this long despite what is easily tens of thousands of bug reports about a single skill.

I understand not wanting to say it. I of the view point though that if it's out in the open, it is faaaaaaaar more likely to get looked at than if it's kept secret, unless you wanna abuse it a bit before it's nerfed. But to each their own.

Watching this vid in slo-mo (.25) you can see that there is other damage that is negating shields before snipe lands and does damage for the last two encounters. For the first encounter (00:06) It does appear that damage did go through your shield, however keep in mind that there are several ways for people to counter shield stacking and damage you through shields.It does appear there is a timing issue but like others have said I usually chalk this up to lag.

LegacyDM wrote: »

SDraconis wrote: »

Watching my ESO brothers and sisters struggle with Cyro Lag + Bugs is like listening to a rich Beverly housewife telling herself that her billionaire playboy hubbie hasn't been cheating on her. Let us be very clear about one thing: ZOS hears us and knows exactly what they're doing with their Cyrodill experience.

On one hand, it feels pretty good pointing our fingers at Wrobel and Firor but in the end they are nothing but yes-men. Pawns in a sick corporate game where the Publisher and the Developer are working together to squeeze you for every penny (RedShell).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeniMax_Media

This is like having two branches of government that enable each other's corruption instead of holding each other accountable for their bad behavior.

As a result of this monopoly in the chain of command, we see a complete lack of accountability and good faith for Zenimax's customers. Case in point: one of our best and busiest streamers Kodi took time to annotate and upload bug lists to forums:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/385622/sword-board-ultimate-bug-5-elder-scrolls-online-clockwork-city

NONE of us will be surprised to learn that ZOS hasn't touched the bugs yet, but somehow they found time to ban Kodi for trying to take a slice of the pie. Twice.

No PvP experience is perfect, but if we want Cyrodill to be less of a joke, we have to stand up for these things and call ZOS out on their BS.

The new Class Representative program? FREE PR to help placate an increasingly unhappy player base. (Hint they exposed their true intentions for the program in their disclaimer when they said they can't guarantee any suggestions from Reps will be brought to fruition.) If ZOS was truly interested in adopting feedback from the community, does anyone here really believe they'd risk their image by adding that tidbit in their disclaimer?

I've played this game for years--I love the spirit of the game, I love the players. But the sun is getting low on Zenimax's complacency. This kind of corporate BS is simply unsustainable in a democratic market with free speech and grassroots potential.

I doubt firor is a yes man since he himself is on the board of directors. It’s more likely they do what’s in the best interest for them in the name of business and what’s cost effective. Fixing pvp bugs and cyrodil is not cost effective do resources goto crown crates, dlcs, and chapters.

Incorrect. Here's the lowdown.
Firor is in operations, he doesn't sit on the board and isn't even considered a manager.

https://www.zenimax.com/about

You know who actually does sit on the board? Robert A. Altman. Simple Wiki search on this chap who helms the Zenimax Ship reveals he has been banned from banking by the feds. Something tells me age and riches haven't made Robert a better man since.

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Snipe *is* a bugged ability. It has nothing to do with "l2p issue" or "git gud". Sometimes you can't hear the sound or the animation, you just get hit by it. Then you can(in delay) queue up 2-3 snipes in a row, making the snipes hit at the exact same time, causing 1-shots. Only counter-play would be 50k HP :^

Not sure whether that's the casting time + server, traveltime + cast time, server + travel time or a mix of both. But the fact remains - it's bugged.

Although I keep asking myself how Dark Flare from templar isn't bugged the same way - as they function pretty much the same.

i've had it kill me inside buildings before, as it lagged out so badly.

hear it coming? no, not in that instance, you just die.

Your problem is you expect an MMO to be synced like a single player game on your PC. IT cannot be and never will be because of latency. Not possible.

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I logged out last night after having this more than one occasion. 2-3 Lethal Arrow from stealth from what looks like one cast.

Like Nightblades aren't overpowered enough, they've got the option for this thanks to Cloak.

Has nothing to do with cloak. Everybody with a bow can do this, its a bug of the skill. You are hitting someone with snipe, snipe again and snipe again. Server does not deliver the damage to your target until it has massed up to death - then you get a death recap that tells you that you were killed by several snipes, seemingly incoming at the same time although in reality they hit you over the course of seconds.