I think its more Pay-2-get back abilities they stripped from Templar (ie: CC). That's how I look at it anyway.

Checkmath wrote: »

The skills arent that great in cyrodiil, only situational usable. Only time stop...that will some big impact in pvp.

I could've tried using the skills. But somereason I really didn't want play pst. Good chance I will buy Summerset. Good chance I won't. I'm just more into AD storyline then the EP Storyline Chapter. Least for now anyway. Eventhough me serving both AD (from PC, PS4 NA and 2ND Scourge PS4 EU) I just want keep the good memories I had on my time AD at the time I served. But for PS4 EU only. EP is close amount towards AD. However the time stop really does sound more interesting. Especially if turns skills backwards in time. Or does it do that at all? I'm really confused with skill. But that barrier thing. I'm more interested in that, least for healers. But would it be same cost as siege barrier. I would like to ponder. Especially since I use range siege barrier.

molecule wrote: »

It's as much P2W as the Warden you use is P2W to people who didn't buy Morrowind

eso_nya wrote: »

Will u be able to kill ppl who own the dlc w/o owning the dlc?

Hi you 2. Your quotes fits exactly together. I used to thought Warden was pay to win from templar. Especially from magplar healers perspective like me. But for somereason I still love "Jessica Fiery Fox of Wind (Jessica Wind, for short) way more than my Warden." Sing Like A Butterfly" something about me not want to heal with him, don't fit well for me. Alas at same time ZOS did something smart. That something is putting new Kill Quest. Which we know is Kill Warden. Hence since new quest, from what ZOS added for bounty. It's not really Pay2Win for Killing Wardens. But using Wardens, I do sense how it is considered Pay2Win.

idk wrote: »

hardly P2W. It is not that exciting of a skill line. The skills are very situational.

And considering you do not want to buy sommerset, and I expect that goes for pretty much any additional content, I do not see much reason to care.

If you really want to see what P2W is all about I can give you some games to check out.

Hi, I may or may not buy Summerset. I really don't want to honestly. But really interested in new AD storyline and how Magicka gave birth. Especially since I'm more of a Magicka type of guy. (DC Chapter makes sense of how Stamina came to be) with the P2W list. I heard about black desert Online? Age of Conan and Arch Age. I've played Arch Age during the birth of Arch Age. Was a tester just like (Kingdom Come Deliverance) in early days before alpha. I just quit playing due to me love PS4 better than my PC I built by self. (how cruel, yes) also by situational, do you mean like something changes really fast and forced to change mind at last second? If so then I agree on your side.

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

There are item sets that have been available in this game for years that could reek havoc in Cyrodiil if any talented player felt like wearing them.

I fail to think any one skill or set of equipment is so far and away better then all of the rest that it would be considered pay to win.

Hi, as for the talented people who want to wear old open sets. I really want to honestly, it's just some of us unable to get due to our Internet unfortunately. (throttling/not good Internet provider/rural) But same time I agree with your point. But luckily we got 3 new crafted armor (3 mostly stam, 1 hybrid but stam/magick.) with skills, there are so many skills yes. But times skills could get boring for others. Aka me forced to spam puncturing sweep. Mostly I'm all heal skills. Makes me hate puncturing sweep. Shouldn't say hate though but for of a dislike for puncturing sweep.

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

I think its more Pay-2-get back abilities they stripped from Templar (ie: CC). That's how I look at it anyway.

Also Warden has CC to, but surprisingly Warden not got stripped from CC. At same time Warden also took Major Mending from Templar to.

Like the Warden, it absolutely is Pay 2 Win.

Yes ... Of course it is ... It's so op that every build only uses psijic skill

Often double barring them

I don't see Psijic skill line as P2W by any way, since those skills are very situational and you have to sacrifice another skills in order to make space for Psijic skills.
For example with my mag NB I haven't even done whole questline, because other skills I've been using in PvP for months are still very well performing and I wouldn't sacrifice any of them for slotting X Psijic skill.
Meanwhile with my magplar I've been using 3 Psijic skills, but even if I use them, they won't guarantee my victory:
If I die, I'm not dying because enemy player had X skill from Y skill category. I died, because enemy player outplayed me with counters which works well against my build. And since Undo's ultimate morph will not nuke my enemies across Cyrodiil/BGs as one hit K.O, I wouldn't call Psijic skill line as P2W.