Can we please finally get underwater areas and underwater swimmimg in 2018?

redspecter23 · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

Fleshreaper wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

It wasn't designed to be included and going back and changing all that now it counter productive.

@redspecter23 What are your sources that say it wasn't designed to be included? Do you know for a fact that it wasn't designed, maybe it was being worked on and was scrapped to save time.

It's never completely off the table of course, but the water we have now isn't set up for exploring in 3 dimensions. We can't dive. If you even see the bottom of the water areas, they are empty and devoid of anything to interact with. There was definitely no intention of having any 3 dimensional interaction with bodies of water. I'm not saying it would never happen. I'm just saying that it was highly unlikely to be part of their plan from the start. They would have to go back and add 3 dimensional elements to many water areas to give us a point to even being there. No points of interest, no nodes, no chests, no caves. It's just large areas of nothing currently.

Chaos2088 · June 2018

Yes, I'd love to see underwater areas with the possibility of swimming underwater.

Going treasure hunting around a sunken ship would be ace.....

Princess Ariel realness yall!!!

Runschei · June 2018

I don't give a daedrat's hairy butt.

I don't remember what I voted so I'm going to comment to see what I voted back in December.

Good thread tho.

Facefister · June 2018

I am having a dejavu. I remember when the WoW community so fiercly asked for an underwater area. They end up hating that area the most. Believe me, you don't want an underwater area.

Ajaxandriel · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

NO.

Because of no.

Go to Vashj'ir and let ESO with decent regions already

(I won't be against SMALL underwater parts like pools or streams or some quest here and there)

Fleshreaper · June 2018

redspecter23 wrote: »

Fleshreaper wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

It wasn't designed to be included and going back and changing all that now it counter productive.

@redspecter23 What are your sources that say it wasn't designed to be included? Do you know for a fact that it wasn't designed, maybe it was being worked on and was scrapped to save time.

It's never completely off the table of course, but the water we have now isn't set up for exploring in 3 dimensions. We can't dive. If you even see the bottom of the water areas, they are empty and devoid of anything to interact with. There was definitely no intention of having any 3 dimensional interaction with bodies of water. I'm not saying it would never happen. I'm just saying that it was highly unlikely to be part of their plan from the start. They would have to go back and add 3 dimensional elements to many water areas to give us a point to even being there. No points of interest, no nodes, no chests, no caves. It's just large areas of nothing currently.

There is a diving mechanic in the game, currently.

There are several quests in Summerset that have you dive into the water.

As far as populating the under water areas, most of that would be a simple drag and drop of items and mobs that are currently in game. Might have to add a few mobs. As for the caves, those are simple doors that could be added. The swim and tread water actions are already in game. So, adding the dive action to a key and using the swim action with the mouse to direct the player's movement shouldn't be a problem. I would imagine the world creation tool is a lot the old TES Construction Editors of the past. So, population areas under water wouldn't be that big a deal.

dbgager · June 2018

I doubt that will ever happen. It would take a redesigning all of the water areas in the game to make them more interesting. and to add actual content to them.and it is not simply drag and drop. I doubt the editor for this game is that sophisticated. Masssive endevor.

Hexi · June 2018

Why do people keep asking this in every game when underwater zones are by FAR the most hated areas in every single game?

It doesn't matter how it's implemented, it always sucks.

Vapirko · June 2018

There’s probably the opportunity to make it possible in a select area of a new chapter or dlc but not everywhere.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

sylviermoone · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

What I find kind of funny is that people are always hollering "THERE'S ALRADY A THREAD ON THAT" when people start new threads, but then throwing salt when someone necros a thread, too.

No ill will here, just an observation.

Maryal · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

They need to first fix the existing areas so that they work properly. Too many things are still too buggy. Not interested in anything underwater until the other areas work properly.

idk · June 2018

No offense but OP is merely asking for water areas because he wants it yet has no suggestion as to why it would be good for the game. Not really great reason for convincing others.

For the same reason we will not have mounts that truly fly, we will likely never have underwater either. It comes down to the game was designed to be played firmly on the ground. It would take a huge overhaul to make such changes.

Giraffon · June 2018

I don't give a daedrat's hairy butt.

I used to want this really badly, but now I don't know if I want Zeni to spend the resources on it. How can they compete with Minecraft's Aquatic Update anyway?

Giraffon · June 2018

I don't give a daedrat's hairy butt.

Dawnblade wrote: »

I don't care for water zones - trying to play a game like this in a 3d space on 3 axis on a 2d screen is annoying, and every game I've played that has tried an underwater zone has done it once and never again as many (if not most) players can't stand it and avoid it like the plague.

I do want them to fix the water in the game such that I do not get dismounted every time my horse gets a drop of water on their hoof - and no, that doesn't mean I want some new mount they sell in the store in a gamble box, just fix the base game water already - I should not get dismounted (with that slow ass dismount animation) every time I get near a puddle.

I agree. Horses should slow down as the water gets deeper and then ultimately just swim with the player staying mounted. I suppose that simple statement is not as easy as it sounds though since they have all of these unusual mounts in addition to horses to do animation for.

WillS1888 · June 2018

Yes, I'd love to see underwater areas with the possibility of swimming underwater.

Swimming animations are far too advanced for your average zenimax employee

Malthorne · June 2018

Yes, I'd love to see underwater areas with the possibility of swimming underwater.

Underwater exploration like in Morrowind and Oblivion could be great and really add a lot more Elder Scrolls flavor to ESO. I would like this from a purely exploration standpoint.

I would not want to see a fully underwater dungeon or zone.

Potenza · June 2018

Yes, I'd love to see underwater areas with the possibility of swimming underwater.

BUT - don't think it can be pulled off right. The game engine probly cannot do it. Thats why no flying. I played a game in the past that had it and it was done well. It would need to have smooth flowing movement. Even jumping was smoother in that other game.

Xerikten · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

yes underwater combat is da bomb.

first you have perception issues which means you have no idea how close or far away things actually are. the healer is out of range. the aoe misses everything. those schools of fish are much closer than you think and now you are shark bait.

second, movement is challenging coupled with the above issue and being slowed. then while on the surface swimming you cant see all of the crap coming up to eat you. also you cant kill what is in the water while doing such as you are above water and mechanics wont allow combat from one medium to another.

third you have to have some form of water breathing. said items are almost always weak in stats. god forbid if you are using a potion or spell. yes that underwater raid boss just dispelled your water breathing oh joy! quick drink that potion or find that spell or clicky item.

yep under water raiding/fighting was the bomb. it just plain SUXED.

MLGProPlayer · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

No. Underwater exploration and combat was the worst part about GW2. Underwater content sucks in every game it's ever been implemented in.

Kiralyn2000 · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

Underwater levels are generally the worst ones. Why would you want to add this?

ssorgatem · June 2018

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Yes, and make it a new skill line, "diving", and make it part of a DLC the entirety of which happens underwater in base game zones.
Or better yet, make it a chapter.
It could be all about reppelling a Sload invasion or something.

elijafire · June 2018

Yes, I'd love to see underwater areas with the possibility of swimming underwater.

Please make this a priority, WoW has had flying and underwater swimming for 20 years why are we so far behind?

Casterial · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

This will kill the pvp at bridges and over by water...

Casterial · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

Kram8ion wrote: »

It's coming Q3 of 2018 with flying mounts, dragons and spell crafting
But seriously they may as well create a new game with the work that has to go into producing such mechanisms

Elder Scrolls 6?

cyclonus11 · June 2018

Yes, I'd love to see underwater areas with the possibility of swimming underwater.

I almost passed on this game because it doesn't have underwater diving.

Nyladreas · June 2018

Yes, I'd love to see underwater areas with the possibility of swimming underwater.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

No. Underwater exploration and combat was the worst part about GW2. Underwater content sucks in every game it's ever been implemented in.

So we can do it better.

Hexi · June 2018

elijafire wrote: »

Please make this a priority, WoW has had flying and underwater swimming for 20 years why are we so far behind?

Flying is restricted behind a time-gate now, because of how bad it is for the game but they can't "put the genie back into the bottle", so they restrict it for the original launch of new content. You can't fly at all in the "end-game" zone of Legion. As far as swimming goes, there's like 3 quests in the entire Legion expansion that require swimming. The underwater zone of Cataclysm was the most hated zone by far, and pretty much nobody goes there for any reason. Even at cata launch it was avoided like the plague.

In GW2 the underwater stuff is hated by almost everyone as well.

Putting resources into redesigning the game (because that's what you would have to do, considering how much water there is) just because 0.1% want something that adds nothing to the game is just goofy.

WoW devs have admitted that adding flying was the biggest blunder they did, because it makes world design obsolete and pointless. Why design an intricate world when no one sees it because they just fly over it.

GraeValley · June 2018

No, I don't want to see this added - Please comment why.

No, I don't want to see this added -

Haven't liked underwater gameplay in any game I've encountered it. Makes me a little nauseous trying to fight. Just came to avoid those zones. So really hope they don't add that here.

TerraDewBerry · June 2018

Yes, I'd love to see underwater areas with the possibility of swimming underwater.

I would love me some underwater swimming and exploration. Seems like adding swimming to an Argonian based DLC makes sense. It's way past time, ZOS!! *begs*