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Hear ye, hear ye: "Borrowers and Lenders... CAN SHUT UP!!!!"
Yshaar
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Well, well. So I posted on this category for the community managers to elevate this very topic as I have the feeling that the PVE and the crafting forum (Fishing anyone?) are not very well maintained for the moment.
You just released a patch and it is not in there.
Concerning Daggerfall Covenant PVE content, first Zone, Daggerfall City but probably ALL damn bankers in the game.
Problem:
Talking to the banker woman in Daggerfall 10 times a day is driving you crazy. Why? Just listen to her 50 words of wisdom time and time again is just unbearable. How could that possibly slipped past your keen ears?
Problem 2:
Same goes for the market criers/watch: Hear ye, hear ye...blablabla!"
You hear this every time you run through the city and/or interact with the bank...see above...so you successfully aggravated the noise overflow.
I have to say the...foul words...I really, really miss a well toned short and sturdy:" Lok'Tar!" and off I put stuff in my bank.
Please, this is an MMORPG, we really really appreciate your heroic, visionary unconventional things in game (guild stores, solo fights a la Doshia, lots of open dungeons, skill system etc.) but you really need to make them say ONE WORD and thats it.
Farewell travelers and developers of the far kingdom of Zenimax.
PS: You think I am alone with my problem? Take a look here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2211hb/say_borrowers_and_lenders_one_more_time_mf_i_dare/
EDIT: Take a look at this interesting add-on for everyone annoyed by crazy talk:
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info225-BorrowerAndLender.html
Edited by Yshaar on April 21, 2014 8:19PM You just released a patch and it is not in there.
Concerning Daggerfall Covenant PVE content, first Zone, Daggerfall City but probably ALL damn bankers in the game.
Problem:
Talking to the banker woman in Daggerfall 10 times a day is driving you crazy. Why? Just listen to her 50 words of wisdom time and time again is just unbearable. How could that possibly slipped past your keen ears?
Problem 2:
Same goes for the market criers/watch: Hear ye, hear ye...blablabla!"
You hear this every time you run through the city and/or interact with the bank...see above...so you successfully aggravated the noise overflow.
I have to say the...foul words...I really, really miss a well toned short and sturdy:" Lok'Tar!" and off I put stuff in my bank.
Please, this is an MMORPG, we really really appreciate your heroic, visionary unconventional things in game (guild stores, solo fights a la Doshia, lots of open dungeons, skill system etc.) but you really need to make them say ONE WORD and thats it.
Farewell travelers and developers of the far kingdom of Zenimax.
PS: You think I am alone with my problem? Take a look here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2211hb/say_borrowers_and_lenders_one_more_time_mf_i_dare/
EDIT: Take a look at this interesting add-on for everyone annoyed by crazy talk:
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info225-BorrowerAndLender.html
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Saera✭✭✭I have to agree, i changed alliances over to AD from DC and i was sooooo happy to NEVER hear that banker chick again there... SHE is THE most annoying banker ever0 -
Allaerra✭✭✭Totally disagree. I like hearing the different things the NPCs say as I run through town. I love the flies buzzing, roosters crowing, all the ambient noise. It is brilliant and immersive.4 -
Svann✭✭✭Totally non-immersive to have someone say the same thing every single time. Id much rather they said nothing at all than this.3
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Saera✭✭✭Totally disagree. I like hearing the different things the NPCs say as I run through town. I love the flies buzzing, roosters crowing, all the ambient noise. It is brilliant and immersive.
Its not what the OP is talking about, its the ones that say the same things over and over, not sure which alliance you play on but the banker on daggerfall.... make a daggerfall character and go to the bank close it out and click on her again do this a couple times and you will understand...
All they need to do is give her about 3-5 more lines of text when you click on her
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Yshaar✭✭✭Totally disagree. I like hearing the different things the NPCs say as I run through town. I love the flies buzzing, roosters crowing, all the ambient noise. It is brilliant and immersive.
Me too. I am talking about this very specific NPC, as there are npcs you have to talk to quite often and hearing the same line time and time again makes you nuts.0 -
korkibucek✭✭✭I wish that banker had taken an arrow to the knee, she might have something different to talk about then.2 -
Deamar✭The banker is indeed the most annoying NPC of Daggerfall.
And the German talking Guardians are i.m.o. good for second place.0 -
derage88✭I'm seriously will start ripping my *** off if I hear these *** NPC's even more... It just get's to the point I turn the audio off because I can't deal with the annoyance of having to hear the same *** line every 20 seconds when I'm crafting stuff.
Fix this issue or at least give the option to turn off ONLY the cryers and bankers.2 -
k9mouse✭✭✭✭✭
✭It does not bug me for NPC saying the same lines over and over again. I guess got used to it from single player games. Also, I used head phones and if I do not want to hear stuff from the game, just take them off (or use the mute button on the keybroad) //Only if that works in RL from certain people that I know.
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MercyKilling✭✭✭✭✭.......I literally cannot believe what I am seeing/reading here.
There are people complaining about a phrase an NPC says? Really? Botters, griefers, gold sellers, bugs...and THIS becomes an issue??
I'm sorry, but I do not, nor can not support this gripe. Grow up. If you are really that sensitive that a repeated phrase drives you up the wall, then perhaps MMOs are not the genre for you.
Come to think of it...most video games or films or series have a character or three that repeat a phrase. It's a catchline. Here, a bunch of examples:
GO JOE.
TRANSFORMERS...ROLL OUT.
Beam me up, Scotty.
I cannae push the engines any further, Cap'n!!
I'm a doctor, Jim..not a magician.
Fascinating.
I got a really bad feeling about this.
Use the Force, Luke.
GO!! GET TO DA CHOPPAH!!
Why so serious?
Engage.
Make it so, Number One.
B-b-b-bird, bird, bird is the word.
RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH.
Isaa me...Mario.
Do a barrel roll!!
All your base are belong to us.
"Hey!"..."Listen!"..."Hey!"..."Hey!"..."Listen!"
Snake! Snaaaake!
GET OVER HERE!!!
FATALITY.
BABALITY.
BRUTALITY.
FIGHT.
You (SUBJECT NAME HERE) Must be the pride of (SUBJECTS HOME TOWN HERE)
Need I continue?
I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
3) Difficulty slider.
4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.2 -
How do you guys handle walking down a busy city street irl?
rl street noise isn't nearly as annoying as what's-her-name. srsly. dogs barking? np. motorcycles? fine. sirens? great. actual conversation? fabu.
ambient sounds are one thing. this is a greeting from an NPC you interact with all the time. and generally, irl people don't repeat the SAME EXACT SENTENCES each time you say "hi". or "bank". or "guild bank" or "guild store" or "bank" again.
mercykilling, all your examples are SHORT. go click on her a dozen times and tell us how you feel now. most other NPCs' repetitive text is short which is much more bearable. why, oh why, can't she (and a couple other select NPCs) just stick to "hi"??
(ps - if bethsoft really wanted speech to be immersive, my responses shouldn't just be "bank" but "please may i check my stored items? thanks." not that i care about that - much...
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It's the time between the sound loops that is too short. Put at least 2 min between for some. Hearing the same conversation every 30 secs gets irritating quite quickly, especially when it is where you need to craft.1
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ShinChuck✭✭✭Another question: is she supposed to sound like a dip?
It's NOR, you nitwit. "Neither a borrower or a lender" means something like "Not a borrower, but a lender is an option". She then says the saying is rubbish, but also that lenders are important, meaning it's *not* rubbish in her opinion.
Is this supposed to hint to us that she's one of those haughty types who isn't as smart as she thinks?
/overthinking
Also, the original quote from Shakespeare was "nor", so she's butchering it on that front too, although we can argue that, since it's Tamriel, she's never heard of Shakespeare, heheh.Edited by ShinChuck on April 21, 2014 7:56PM"It's morally wrong to suggest gameplay changes for an MMO."
...seriously, someone told me that once here. The things people will do to win their internet arguments!0 -
pborerb16_ESO✭✭✭The banker in Daggerfall repeating her lengthy refutation of Polonius ("neither a borrower nor a lender be") every time you use the bank is indeed annoying. I *do* like to hear the NPCs talk, but there should be an option like "play NPC speeches only the first time you encounter them" or similar.0
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Zebug✭✭✭I was positive that we were going to have a quest to kill that glenumbra banker lady... And it would have gone down in gaming history as one of the most rewarding quests ever2
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ShinChuck✭✭✭pborerb16_ESO wrote: »The banker in Daggerfall repeating her lengthy refutation of Polonius ("neither a borrower nor a lender be") every time you use the bank is indeed annoying. I *do* like to hear the NPCs talk, but there should be an option like "play NPC speeches only the first time you encounter them" or similar.
Maybe even a cooldown timer. I don't mind if she sometimes says it (although the butchering of the quote is still painful, NOR NOR NOR NOR NOR NOR, not "or", lady!) as permanent quiet wouldn't be quite to my tastes, but all the time is too much! Every ten minutes? Let the user choose the variable, heheh.Edited by ShinChuck on April 21, 2014 8:04PM"It's morally wrong to suggest gameplay changes for an MMO."
...seriously, someone told me that once here. The things people will do to win their internet arguments!0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MercyKilling wrote: ».......I literally cannot believe what I am seeing/reading here.
There are people complaining about a phrase an NPC says? Really? Botters, griefers, gold sellers, bugs...and THIS becomes an issue??
I'm sorry, but I do not, nor can not support this gripe. Grow up. If you are really that sensitive that a repeated phrase drives you up the wall, then perhaps MMOs are not the genre for you.
Come to think of it...most video games or films or series have a character or three that repeat a phrase. It's a catchline. Here, a bunch of examples:
GO JOE.
TRANSFORMERS...ROLL OUT.
Beam me up, Scotty.
I cannae push the engines any further, Cap'n!!
I'm a doctor, Jim..not a magician.
Fascinating.
I got a really bad feeling about this.
Use the Force, Luke.
GO!! GET TO DA CHOPPAH!!
Why so serious?
Engage.
Make it so, Number One.
B-b-b-bird, bird, bird is the word.
RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH.
Isaa me...Mario.
Do a barrel roll!!
All your base are belong to us.
"Hey!"..."Listen!"..."Hey!"..."Hey!"..."Listen!"
Snake! Snaaaake!
GET OVER HERE!!!
FATALITY.
BABALITY.
BRUTALITY.
FIGHT.
You (SUBJECT NAME HERE) Must be the pride of (SUBJECTS HOME TOWN HERE)
Need I continue?
Yeah... uh... some of those aren't actually real. Others were only repeated ad nauseum by people who think that the portal meme is still funny.0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »
All I could think of was, "I saw a mudcrab the other day." "Disgusting creatures."0 -
Yshaar✭✭✭As this topic comes up again:
There is an interesting add-on fulfilling my wish:
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info225-BorrowerAndLender.html
@MercyKilling
I played too many games (loads of mmos too) and there was never ever a game that had so many annoying repeated sentences. You examples are totally different. BTW: read my post again, I have nothing against a solid : Hello! or sth. But the banker is just...beyond words.
Oh and the "damn dog"-ambient sound when crafting in Daggerfall.
This is an MMO there shouldn't be such things in there, very simple as it is not immersive not anything when the same face repeats the same sentence three times a minute.
And that you bring up "Fatality!" as an example hurts a bit inside.
There are uses for GOOD and fitting and TRIGGERED words or fitting sentences, I indeed love them. (e.g. always loved the announcer voice in LoL)Edited by Yshaar on April 21, 2014 8:18PM0 -
Majic✭✭✭✭✭Nothing wrong with the Daggerfall bank voice actress, but I totally agree she could use a bigger repertoire. Epopt Of The Everspinning Logo, Church Of The Eternal Loading Screen
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