Let's get this straight....
This community would never be happy with nightblades unless....
A.) They had 0 heals, even overtime
B.) No stealth Mechanic whatsoever
C.) Still Remained as Squishy as they are, dying in 3 hits to everything
D.) Have no damage at all.
E.) Get removed from the game
Bonus
F.) There is no other class to complain about after that.
(For dummies: NBs compensate their ultra squishiness with cloak, their damage is blown out of proportion for ganking because if they step on the frontline for 1 second they get toasted. How else would you want them to play the game? Oh yeah i said it already... at point E)
There are literally dozens of counters to NBs, especially for mag classes. NBs themselves if you party up with them can keep other NBs out of cloak for 30 seconds unless purged.
Idk what else to say man... L2P?
DuskMarine wrote: »fireing a balista and getting a direct hit on someone and watching them walk away after hitting cloak an all you see is the fire balistas dot saying dodged like excuse me cloak shouldnt give you that power if the dot is already applied to you. thats a bug that people exploit a little to often as nightblades.
DuskMarine wrote: »fireing a balista and getting a direct hit on someone and watching them walk away after hitting cloak an all you see is the fire balistas dot saying dodged like excuse me cloak shouldnt give you that power if the dot is already applied to you. thats a bug that people exploit a little to often as nightblades.
Dude. Cloak is working as intended. May I suggest trying a scattershot catapult?
DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?
Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
This is how cloak is supposed to work!
DuskMarine wrote: »no its not......were not meant to become god just by hitting a button sorry to burst your bubble on that
DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
This is how cloak is supposed to work!
no its not......were not meant to become god just by hitting a button sorry to burst your bubble on that
DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
This is how cloak is supposed to work!
no its not......were not meant to become god just by hitting a button sorry to burst your bubble on that
Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
This is how cloak is supposed to work!
no its not......were not meant to become god just by hitting a button sorry to burst your bubble on that
Sorry, man, but you really don't strike me as someone who mains a NB. "Not meant to become god just by hitting a button". LOL That describes 0 NB's in the game and is nothing less than a grotesque over exaggeration. Yeah, I am sorry, but I don't believe you when you say you main a NB.
How does a damage shield absorb bleed damage? Pretty confident it's you bleeding, not your damage shield. This needs to be changed.
I find it more concerning that you can apply a 6k+ per second dot from 50 meters away but you do you.
DuskMarine wrote: »Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
This is how cloak is supposed to work!
no its not......were not meant to become god just by hitting a button sorry to burst your bubble on that
Sorry, man, but you really don't strike me as someone who mains a NB. "Not meant to become god just by hitting a button". LOL That describes 0 NB's in the game and is nothing less than a grotesque over exaggeration. Yeah, I am sorry, but I don't believe you when you say you main a NB.
probly cause i play stamblade the right way?? i dont use cloak or any of that cheap garbage. bow dual wield right up in your face slayer builds not a ganker. not every nightblade in the game rolls the same stuff. but yea hitting cloak does basically make you god.
brandonv516 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
This is how cloak is supposed to work!
no its not......were not meant to become god just by hitting a button sorry to burst your bubble on that
Sorry, man, but you really don't strike me as someone who mains a NB. "Not meant to become god just by hitting a button". LOL That describes 0 NB's in the game and is nothing less than a grotesque over exaggeration. Yeah, I am sorry, but I don't believe you when you say you main a NB.
probly cause i play stamblade the right way?? i dont use cloak or any of that cheap garbage. bow dual wield right up in your face slayer builds not a ganker. not every nightblade in the game rolls the same stuff. but yea hitting cloak does basically make you god.
The right way lol.
Yeah I play Magplar the right way too. Screw heals and purges, I just walk up to my enemies and look at them and they die!
Cloak is not OP, get over it.
DuskMarine wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
This is how cloak is supposed to work!
no its not......were not meant to become god just by hitting a button sorry to burst your bubble on that
Sorry, man, but you really don't strike me as someone who mains a NB. "Not meant to become god just by hitting a button". LOL That describes 0 NB's in the game and is nothing less than a grotesque over exaggeration. Yeah, I am sorry, but I don't believe you when you say you main a NB.
probly cause i play stamblade the right way?? i dont use cloak or any of that cheap garbage. bow dual wield right up in your face slayer builds not a ganker. not every nightblade in the game rolls the same stuff. but yea hitting cloak does basically make you god.
The right way lol.
Yeah I play Magplar the right way too. Screw heals and purges, I just walk up to my enemies and look at them and they die!
Cloak is not OP, get over it.
your saying it isnt op but you can take a balistas dot and make it invalid which you shouldnt be able to do as cloak doesnt have a purge effect. so damage negation that shouldnt even be there doesnt make it op or broken??? sorry but i dont understand this logic at all as it clearly makes no real logical sense?
brandonv516 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
thats not cloak working as intended i main a dang nightblade and even find that disturbing that cloak is that broken of a skill to where its litterally a walking bug that removes you from the plane of existance temporarily. thats litterally what its turning into whats next we pop cloak and all you see pop on your screen as an enemy invulnerable target?Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251063/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-3-5#latest
This is how cloak is supposed to work!
no its not......were not meant to become god just by hitting a button sorry to burst your bubble on that
Sorry, man, but you really don't strike me as someone who mains a NB. "Not meant to become god just by hitting a button". LOL That describes 0 NB's in the game and is nothing less than a grotesque over exaggeration. Yeah, I am sorry, but I don't believe you when you say you main a NB.
probly cause i play stamblade the right way?? i dont use cloak or any of that cheap garbage. bow dual wield right up in your face slayer builds not a ganker. not every nightblade in the game rolls the same stuff. but yea hitting cloak does basically make you god.
The right way lol.
Yeah I play Magplar the right way too. Screw heals and purges, I just walk up to my enemies and look at them and they die!
Cloak is not OP, get over it.
your saying it isnt op but you can take a balistas dot and make it invalid which you shouldnt be able to do as cloak doesnt have a purge effect. so damage negation that shouldnt even be there doesnt make it op or broken??? sorry but i dont understand this logic at all as it clearly makes no real logical sense?
It doesn't have to make sense to you. It's something that you need to work with and try to find a way to adapt to until something changes.
I'm willing to bet most NBs wouldn't mind a revert to allow DoTs to hit if we got a purge/snare removal added to Cloak instead. I've yet to hear any consideration of this from ZoS.
You say you don't use Cloak. So you clearly don't know how things can go wrong fast when you try to Cloak out of some situations.
Fur_like_snow wrote: »If you're playing in a CP campaign then siege is largely ineffective in its current form. Mostly because of the easy access to purge and siege bubble. Cloak isn't really the problem it's ease of counter measure to siege. Tbh you wouldn't have killed that NB with a single fire ballista with or without cloak.
Alternatively he would have just purged/healed thru the dot and the result would effectively be the same.DuskMarine wrote: »even still you miss the main point how do you get 3 dodges on a dot just because hes cloaked? that is broken.
Fur_like_snow wrote: »Alternatively he would have just purged/healed thru the dot and the result would effectively be the same.DuskMarine wrote: »even still you miss the main point how do you get 3 dodges on a dot just because hes cloaked? that is broken.
DuskMarine wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »If you're playing in a CP campaign then siege is largely ineffective in its current form. Mostly because of the easy access to purge and siege bubble. Cloak isn't really the problem it's ease of counter measure to siege. Tbh you wouldn't have killed that NB with a single fire ballista with or without cloak.
even still you miss the main point how do you get 3 dodges on a dot just because hes cloaked? that is broken.
Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »If you're playing in a CP campaign then siege is largely ineffective in its current form. Mostly because of the easy access to purge and siege bubble. Cloak isn't really the problem it's ease of counter measure to siege. Tbh you wouldn't have killed that NB with a single fire ballista with or without cloak.
even still you miss the main point how do you get 3 dodges on a dot just because hes cloaked? that is broken.
Shuffle, maybe? Just maybe?
DuskMarine wrote: »Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »If you're playing in a CP campaign then siege is largely ineffective in its current form. Mostly because of the easy access to purge and siege bubble. Cloak isn't really the problem it's ease of counter measure to siege. Tbh you wouldn't have killed that NB with a single fire ballista with or without cloak.
even still you miss the main point how do you get 3 dodges on a dot just because hes cloaked? that is broken.
Shuffle, maybe? Just maybe?
its already been applied there is no shuffle making it past that.
Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Thunderknuckles wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »If you're playing in a CP campaign then siege is largely ineffective in its current form. Mostly because of the easy access to purge and siege bubble. Cloak isn't really the problem it's ease of counter measure to siege. Tbh you wouldn't have killed that NB with a single fire ballista with or without cloak.
even still you miss the main point how do you get 3 dodges on a dot just because hes cloaked? that is broken.
Shuffle, maybe? Just maybe?
its already been applied there is no shuffle making it past that.
Okay, there's no real debating this with you. I've mained a Stamblade for a year now and have never seen this "become a god with one push of a button" thing. Not even from the best of'em I've run with. Stamdens and Stamplars, on the other hand, and a lot of DK's...I see them routinely 1vX'ing. The number of Stamblades that can pull that off are verrrrry minimal. This is all just sounding like a butthurt thread to me, now. I seriously am not insulting you, but if you seriously have mained a Stamblade for long at all you should well know that Shadowy Disguise (Cloak) is not the god mode you declare it is. It....just....isn't.
GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Whats the difference if a templar just purged it? Cloak suppresses dots. Dont like it? Fight for purge cloak to come back. Thatll fix your immersion.
So what exactly is a stamblade to do?
Vigor+rally barely outheals a ballista
Purge eats over half the magicka pool
So a stamblade should just die if getting hit by a siege if no healer is present?
Sounds more broken to me
DuskMarine wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Whats the difference if a templar just purged it? Cloak suppresses dots. Dont like it? Fight for purge cloak to come back. Thatll fix your immersion.
yet nothing on cloak says it supresses anything? its broken..........yall seriously need to read the tooltip. thats an ability it should not have thats a bug. making the ability broken.
So what exactly is a stamblade to do?
Vigor+rally barely outheals a ballista
Purge eats over half the magicka pool
So a stamblade should just die if getting hit by a siege if no healer is present?
Sounds more broken to me