New jewelry traits not appearing at dolmens?

argouru · June 2018

I tried playing a few anchors in Alik'r Desert, but all the jewelry rewards have only Arcane, Healthy or Robust. are the new jewelry traits only found in the Summerset zones?

argouru · June 2018

I'm playing on the XB1, to be clear.

TarrNokk · June 2018

Is not that easy. To be honest it's way harder to get some. Read summerset patch notes where you can get them.

Willard · June 2018

Only health, stamina, and magical will drop at dolmins
Definitely read the jewelry notes

AlnilamE · June 2018

Each new trait drops from a different source. None of those sources is dolmens.

The patch notes have a very good summary of what traits you find where.

Nestor · June 2018

The new traits drop from various activities. Only one or two are related to Summerset. One comes from PvP and has nothing to with Summerset. Head over to UESP and search jewelry traits to find out where

idk · June 2018

AlnilamE wrote: »

Each new trait drops from a different source. None of those sources is dolmens.

The patch notes have a very good summary of what traits you find where.

Exactly. That part was certainly well written.

Also, the old sets, and new sets for that matter, still only come in the old traits in case that is what OP is wondering. So Grinding for a bloodthirsty Mother's Sorrow jewelry will be fruitless.

ol_BANK_lo · June 2018

AlnilamE wrote: »

Each new trait drops from a different source. None of those sources is dolmens.

The patch notes have a very good summary of what traits you find where.

I can't find where it explains it. Have link?

PlagueSD · June 2018

Research jewelry:

Trait             Source
Bloodthirsty      Rarely found as rewards for weekly Trials quests 
Harmony           Rarely acquired in Undaunted chests 
Infused           Rarely found in Psijic Portals 
Triune            Rarely found from daily board quests in Cyrodiil 
Protective        Ring from completing Summerset Main Quest
                  Necklace from Psijic Order quests 
Swift             Rarely found from Jewelry Crafting Writs

Clansman2013 · June 2018

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Jewelry_Crafting

Scroll down towards the bottom:

Bloodthirsty - Rarely found as rewards for weekly Trials quests
Harmony - Rarely acquired in Undaunted chests
Infused - Rarely found in Psijic Portals
Triune - Rarely found from daily board quests in Cyrodiil
Protective - Ring from completing Summerset Main Quest, Necklace from Psijic Order quests
Swift - Rarely found from Jewelry Crafting Writs

Nestor · June 2018

And in a few weeks you will be able to buy them cheap in guildstores. Besides you still have to level the skill line to make max level and gather the mats to make it.

Its going to be a while before your making your first set.

SteveCampsOut · June 2018

Just wanna say thanks to the two people who took the time to answer the question instead of telling people to go elsewhere for the answers.

olsborg · June 2018

Working as intended

sylviermoone · June 2018

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Just wanna say thanks to the two people who took the time to answer the question instead of telling people to go elsewhere for the answers.

Those posters answered the question and then gave the OP specific sources for finding out more information about how jewelry drops work. They answered the question every bit as well as the people that copy/paste info. It isn't like they said "Hey, maybe you should Google that..."

argouru · June 2018

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Just wanna say thanks to the two people who took the time to answer the question instead of telling people to go elsewhere for the answers.

Same here. I'm at work today and keep being interrupted, so researching other sites is very difficult for me right now. Thanks again for you help, guys.

idk · June 2018

Nestor wrote: »

And in a few weeks you will be able to buy them cheap in guildstores. Besides you still have to level the skill line to make max level and gather the mats to make it.

Its going to be a while before your making your first set.

Trait change. Do not think that requires having the skill maxed. Just knowing the trait.

Iselin · June 2018

Just be aware that even in the special places those 6 new traits drop, they don't drop as jewelry you can wear. They only drop as research-only "exemplary" jewelry. It also can not be deconstructed - research or give/sell to others for research are the only things you can do with it.

Jewelry that you can actually wear and deconstruct still only drops in the 3 original traits: healthy, robust and arcane.

This of course means that getting the trait stones for those 6 new traits is maybe even more of a PITA than the upgrade grains which you do get from decon of green, blue, purple and gold jewelry.

Maybe wearable jewelry with the new traits will drop at some time in the future but if and when they haven't said.

radiostar · June 2018

That's why I suggested a sentence be added on the trait box. But c'est la vie.

Juju_beans · June 2018

Iselin wrote: »

Just be aware that even in the special places those 6 new traits drop, they don't drop as jewelry you can wear. They only drop as research-only "exemplary" jewelry. It also can not be deconstructed - research or give/sell to others for research are the only things you can do with it.

Jewelry that you can actually wear and deconstruct still only drops in the 3 original traits: healthy, robust and arcane.

This of course means that getting the trait stones for those 6 new traits is maybe even more of a PITA than the upgrade grains which you do get from decon of green, blue, purple and gold jewelry.

Maybe wearable jewelry with the new traits will drop at some time in the future but if and when they haven't said.

You can get the trait stone for swift from writ vendors...20 vouchers.
You can get the trait stone for triune from pvp researcher...100K AP.

Get the trait stone and have a guildy make you a piece of jewelry to research.

AlnilamE · June 2018

BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Each new trait drops from a different source. None of those sources is dolmens.

The patch notes have a very good summary of what traits you find where.

I can't find where it explains it. Have link?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5145866/#Comment_5145866

In the section called "Jewelry Crafting Traits" in the second post of that thread.

Iselin · June 2018

Juju_beans wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Just be aware that even in the special places those 6 new traits drop, they don't drop as jewelry you can wear. They only drop as research-only "exemplary" jewelry. It also can not be deconstructed - research or give/sell to others for research are the only things you can do with it.

Jewelry that you can actually wear and deconstruct still only drops in the 3 original traits: healthy, robust and arcane.

This of course means that getting the trait stones for those 6 new traits is maybe even more of a PITA than the upgrade grains which you do get from decon of green, blue, purple and gold jewelry.

Maybe wearable jewelry with the new traits will drop at some time in the future but if and when they haven't said.

You can get the trait stone for swift from writ vendors...20 vouchers.
You can get the trait stone for triune from pvp researcher...100K AP.

Get the trait stone and have a guildy make you a piece of jewelry to research.

Yeah I know you can and I'm on PC so I already have 5 traits each researched, working on the 6th for rings and I have one of each of everything I still need to research.

I was simply saying that since deconstructible jewelry still only drops in the 3 legacy traits getting trait grains for those is relatively easy during the course of routine decon but it's rare for the other 6 traits because other than buying them from the vendors that sell them, refining ore is the only chance you have of getting some.

DurzoBlint13 · June 2018

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Just wanna say thanks to the two people who took the time to answer the question instead of telling people to go elsewhere for the answers.

go elsewhere??? You are already on the forum on this site. It is a very simple and quick couple of clicks to find what OP was looking for .....forums>patch notes>(choose your platform)>jewelry crafting

Dagoth_Rac · June 2018

Iselin wrote: »

Juju_beans wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Just be aware that even in the special places those 6 new traits drop, they don't drop as jewelry you can wear. They only drop as research-only "exemplary" jewelry. It also can not be deconstructed - research or give/sell to others for research are the only things you can do with it.

Jewelry that you can actually wear and deconstruct still only drops in the 3 original traits: healthy, robust and arcane.

This of course means that getting the trait stones for those 6 new traits is maybe even more of a PITA than the upgrade grains which you do get from decon of green, blue, purple and gold jewelry.

Maybe wearable jewelry with the new traits will drop at some time in the future but if and when they haven't said.

You can get the trait stone for swift from writ vendors...20 vouchers.
You can get the trait stone for triune from pvp researcher...100K AP.

Get the trait stone and have a guildy make you a piece of jewelry to research.

Yeah I know you can and I'm on PC so I already have 5 traits each researched, working on the 6th for rings and I have one of each of everything I still need to research.

I was simply saying that since deconstructible jewelry still only drops in the 3 legacy traits getting trait grains for those is relatively easy during the course of routine decon but it's rare for the other 6 traits because other than buying them from the vendors that sell them, refining ore is the only chance you have of getting some.

Once everyone has their trait research done, I am guessing there will be very little actual crafting of jewelry. Getting the raw mats, the upgrade mats, the trait stones, etc., is just too much of a grind. Will there be the handful of min/max players who will spend the sheer amount of time/money necessary to craft a CP160 gold infused necklace of Hunding's Rage? Of course. But I think they will be few and far between. Unless ZOS make some changes, Jewelry Crafting is going to be more of a, "Transmute my existing dropped jewelry to latest patch's meta trait," system than a regular crafting profession.

Iselin · June 2018

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Juju_beans wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Just be aware that even in the special places those 6 new traits drop, they don't drop as jewelry you can wear. They only drop as research-only "exemplary" jewelry. It also can not be deconstructed - research or give/sell to others for research are the only things you can do with it.

Jewelry that you can actually wear and deconstruct still only drops in the 3 original traits: healthy, robust and arcane.

This of course means that getting the trait stones for those 6 new traits is maybe even more of a PITA than the upgrade grains which you do get from decon of green, blue, purple and gold jewelry.

Maybe wearable jewelry with the new traits will drop at some time in the future but if and when they haven't said.

You can get the trait stone for swift from writ vendors...20 vouchers.
You can get the trait stone for triune from pvp researcher...100K AP.

Get the trait stone and have a guildy make you a piece of jewelry to research.

Yeah I know you can and I'm on PC so I already have 5 traits each researched, working on the 6th for rings and I have one of each of everything I still need to research.

I was simply saying that since deconstructible jewelry still only drops in the 3 legacy traits getting trait grains for those is relatively easy during the course of routine decon but it's rare for the other 6 traits because other than buying them from the vendors that sell them, refining ore is the only chance you have of getting some.

Once everyone has their trait research done, I am guessing there will be very little actual crafting of jewelry. Getting the raw mats, the upgrade mats, the trait stones, etc., is just too much of a grind. Will there be the handful of min/max players who will spend the sheer amount of time/money necessary to craft a CP160 gold infused necklace of Hunding's Rage? Of course. But I think they will be few and far between. Unless ZOS make some changes, Jewelry Crafting is going to be more of a, "Transmute my existing dropped jewelry to latest patch's meta trait," system than a regular crafting profession.

Based on my own experience so far as someone who has focused on it (without buying research scrolls or throwing crazy amounts of gold at it - just a lot of dolmen grinding and seam farming) and looking at the grains I have so far my estimate is that a casual regular player who does not concentrate on it and just grabs what they can as they go about normal gameplay should be able to craft him or herself 3 gold rings sometime in mid 2021... no joke.

I have 5 gold grains so far in 2 weeks of focused regular jewelry crafting and I need 240 of those for 3 pieces. By my calculations I'll need about 90+ weeks to get those 240 grains at the rate I'm going. So I'll get there earlier... sometime in 2020 yay me!

Of course I could run a lot of trials and throw gold at the guild traders to shorten that time frame but I never had to do that to get gold tempers for anything else.

Really this is insanity. The only sane thing to do is pretend they never really added jewelry crafting to the game.

argouru · June 2018

Well my main crafter is an orc and I'd like to have at least one character who can make max-level jewelry of any set, so I'll do it on at least him if no one else. But as a PVE only player I'm not too happy to have to play Cyrodiil just to get one of the traits on two items. I hope they aren't 'bind-on-pickup' items so people can sell their spare copies.

Ydrisselle · June 2018

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Juju_beans wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Just be aware that even in the special places those 6 new traits drop, they don't drop as jewelry you can wear. They only drop as research-only "exemplary" jewelry. It also can not be deconstructed - research or give/sell to others for research are the only things you can do with it.

Jewelry that you can actually wear and deconstruct still only drops in the 3 original traits: healthy, robust and arcane.

This of course means that getting the trait stones for those 6 new traits is maybe even more of a PITA than the upgrade grains which you do get from decon of green, blue, purple and gold jewelry.

Maybe wearable jewelry with the new traits will drop at some time in the future but if and when they haven't said.

You can get the trait stone for swift from writ vendors...20 vouchers.
You can get the trait stone for triune from pvp researcher...100K AP.

Get the trait stone and have a guildy make you a piece of jewelry to research.

Yeah I know you can and I'm on PC so I already have 5 traits each researched, working on the 6th for rings and I have one of each of everything I still need to research.

I was simply saying that since deconstructible jewelry still only drops in the 3 legacy traits getting trait grains for those is relatively easy during the course of routine decon but it's rare for the other 6 traits because other than buying them from the vendors that sell them, refining ore is the only chance you have of getting some.

Once everyone has their trait research done, I am guessing there will be very little actual crafting of jewelry. Getting the raw mats, the upgrade mats, the trait stones, etc., is just too much of a grind. Will there be the handful of min/max players who will spend the sheer amount of time/money necessary to craft a CP160 gold infused necklace of Hunding's Rage? Of course. But I think they will be few and far between. Unless ZOS make some changes, Jewelry Crafting is going to be more of a, "Transmute my existing dropped jewelry to latest patch's meta trait," system than a regular crafting profession.

The complete crafting and upgrading system of jewelry crafting tries to tell you "we don't want you to craft any jewelry"...

Iselin · June 2018

argouru wrote: »

Well my main crafter is an orc and I'd like to have at least one character who can make max-level jewelry of any set, so I'll do it on at least him if no one else. But as a PVE only player I'm not too happy to have to play Cyrodiil just to get one of the traits on two items. I hope they aren't 'bind-on-pickup' items so people can sell their spare copies.

They're not bind on anything. They're all over every guild trader on PC and the price is dropping. 25-30K range today.