Current Cost of Crafting Legendary Jewelry...Ouch
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EvilAutoTech✭✭✭✭✭
✭Olen_Mikko wrote: »Finally i don't have to wipe my butt with my money
Remind me not to sell to you...
Why are all these gold coins stuck together?5 -
XxCaLxX✭✭✭✭✭Idk why anyone would want to upgrade a crafted set to gold anyway. Yeah they are good sets and will suffice for almost anything but not BiS. Most of best sets can be gotten gold through vet trials and even overland and dungeon sets come to weekend vendor. Only thing that I see that is dumb af is the jewelry crafting writs. All in all it’s just something to work toward if you want it. If I could turn my HoF jewelry gold after a few days then why would I ever run vHoF?0 -
neverwalk✭✭✭✭need more nodes in the world, put them in Normal Undaunted dungeons, each group member can loot that node.0 -
exeeter702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
Paying to access it is fine, assuming it will be handed to you without effort especially if its a more luxiourous bower boost, is silly.
The wording is what i was focusing on, complaining that you cant "enjoy crafting" right out of the gates screams entitlement. Of course it was going to be expensive, what did you honestly think? Is this your first mmo? Come on now....
Its not going to remain so crazy, calm down.Edited by exeeter702 on June 4, 2018 8:45PM1 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Let’s say you want to craft a full 3 piece set of legendary jewelry. Let’s assume you have maxed out your jewelry crafting skills and are Rank III in Platings Expertise. Let’s also say you are either too impatient to grind materials or RNG hates you so you choose to purchase materials in the guild stores. At current average prices (which will not get better any time soon, and will be far worse on console) this is how much you can expect to pay:
Materials and Costs for 2 Rings and 1 Necklace- Platinum Ounces x350 @160g each = 56,000g
- Terne Plating x6 @2,250g each = 13,500g
- Iridium Plating x9 @ 5,000g each = 45,000
- Zircon Plating x12 @ 25,000g each = 300,000g
- Chromium Plating x24 @ 150,000g each = 3,600,000
- Grand Total for 3 piece legendary jewelry set = 4,014,500g
Only the wealthiest players will get to enjoy crafted legendary jewelry.
Once again, ZOS givith and taketh away in a single breath.
i think that price went down a friend of mine said itd costed him around 4.6 lol0 -
Juju_beans✭✭✭✭✭
✭Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
Within one week of the chapter coming out ?
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ResTandRespeC✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
Paying to access it is fine, assuming it will be handed to you without effort especially if its a more luxiourous bower boost, is silly.
The wording is what i was focusing on, complaining that you cant "enjoy crafting" right out of the gates screams entitlement. Of course it was going to be expensive, what did you honestly think? Is this your first mmo? Come on now....
Its not going to remain so crazy, calm down.
I mean zos has been making every effort to reduce grinding so i'm sure this came as a shock to some. In any case the mats will come down, not to anywhere near a reasonable level though. I'd expect that since you need 10x the amount and they share the same node as blacksmithing that'll make them 10x the amount per. Plus the fact that the nodes are 1 out of every 4 ore nodes i'd guess that they'd be at least another 2x the price. All in all 20x the price of a temp is what i expect them to come down to. About 160k+ per on console.1 -
Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Give it a few weeks, maybe a few months and supply will have risen while demand tails of, prices will always be forced downwards. Just remember the insanity after furniture making appeared, now it’s hard enough to give some of the stuff away0 -
disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Can I place an order for 3 sets please - finally something to spend my gold on.
If you don't want to spend the gold you can always farm the mats yourself - somebody has to farm them to sell them.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.0 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Juju_beans wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
Within one week of the chapter coming out ?
I want jewelry crafting to behave exactly as all other crafting lines in terms of upgrading costs.6 -
NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »At current average prices (which will not get better any time soon, and will be far worse on console) this is how much you can expect to pay:
Materials and Costs for 2 Rings and 1 Necklace
All my averages are already way lower than that so you are either on NA or like to inflate it a bit to give your argument more weight. Also since they are averages they are currently inflated by the extremely high sales right after release.
Prices will continue to drop for the reasons I pointed out in my earlier post.
However that all said prices will never reach a point where it's worth gilding out jewelry. Even gilding out gear currently is not worth it except for weapons so I am not sure where the expectation comes from that it will be different for jewelry.
99% of the playerbase doesn't even know their chars well enough to even feel the tiny difference between purple and golden jewelry in their playstyle.
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Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NupidStoob wrote: »Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »At current average prices (which will not get better any time soon, and will be far worse on console) this is how much you can expect to pay:
Materials and Costs for 2 Rings and 1 Necklace
All my averages are already way lower than that so you are either on NA or like to inflate it a bit to give your argument more weight. Also since they are averages they are currently inflated by the extremely high sales right after release.
Prices will continue to drop for the reasons I pointed out in my earlier post.
However that all said prices will never reach a point where it's worth gilding out jewelry. Even gilding out gear currently is not worth it except for weapons so I am not sure where the expectation comes from that it will be different for jewelry.
99% of the playerbase doesn't even know their chars well enough to even feel the tiny difference between purple and golden jewelry in their playstyle.
I'm PC/NA and I actually listed my averages on the low end. No inflation, no misrepresentation.
Silivren (Silly) Thalionwen | Altmer Templar | Magicka | 9-Trait Master Crafter/Jeweler | Master Angler | PVE Main - Killed by U35
Jahsul at-Sahan | Redguard Sorcerer | Stamina | Werewolf - Free Bites | PVP Main
Derrok Gunnolf | Redguard Dragonknight | Stamina | Werewolf - Free Bites
Liliana Littleleaf | 9-Trait Grand Master Crafter/Jeweler (non-combat)
Amber Emberheart | Breton Dragonknight | Stamina | Master Angler
Vlos Anon | Dunmer Nightblade | Magicka | Vampire - Free Bites
Kalina Valos | Dunmer Warden | Magicka | Vampire - Free Bites
Swiftpaws-Moonshadow | Khajiit Nightblade | Stamina
Morgul Vardar | Altmer Necromancer | Magicka
Tithin Geil | Altmer Sorceress | Magicka
Dhryk | Imperial Dragonknight | Stamina
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midgetfromtheshire✭✭✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »NupidStoob wrote: »Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »At current average prices (which will not get better any time soon, and will be far worse on console) this is how much you can expect to pay:
Materials and Costs for 2 Rings and 1 Necklace
All my averages are already way lower than that so you are either on NA or like to inflate it a bit to give your argument more weight. Also since they are averages they are currently inflated by the extremely high sales right after release.
Prices will continue to drop for the reasons I pointed out in my earlier post.
However that all said prices will never reach a point where it's worth gilding out jewelry. Even gilding out gear currently is not worth it except for weapons so I am not sure where the expectation comes from that it will be different for jewelry.
99% of the playerbase doesn't even know their chars well enough to even feel the tiny difference between purple and golden jewelry in their playstyle.
I'm PC/NA and I actually listed my averages on the low end. No inflation, no misrepresentation.
Jewellery crafting is still in its infancy and demand outweighs supply at the moment, so sellers will capitalise on that. Pretty standard with anything that is newly introduced into the game (or any mmo for that matter).Get rid of faction locks.0 -
Juju_beans✭✭✭✭✭
✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Juju_beans wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
Within one week of the chapter coming out ?
I want jewelry crafting to behave exactly as all other crafting lines in terms of upgrading costs.
But that's impossible as all the mats for jewelry are brand new and people are just starting to collect them.
Eventually JC will fall in line with the other crafts but certainly not in the first week.
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karekiz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I got a 100 writ gold legend JC writ today!
So basically completing it I would be down several millions of gold! Nice balance!5 -
Bajatar✭✭✭Yea, the cost of crafting and upgrading jewelry is prohibitive. IMHO the only thing jewelry crafting is good for is writs and learning traits so you can transmute dropped jewelry.
It's outfits all over again: they add something interesting and then make it inaccessible.2 -
exeeter702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Juju_beans wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
Within one week of the chapter coming out ?
I want jewelry crafting to behave exactly as all other crafting lines in terms of upgrading costs.
Its the first week ffs.
Even then, jewelry crafting was never going to be on the same level as other crafts initially. It was always billed and designed to be an expensive outlet. It is going to take an investment in time and / or money to reallly reap the full benefits of the type of build freedom that crafting jewelery provides
Purchasing summerset grants access to the system. Nothing more, nothing less. When more mats begin to circulate, you will see some stabalization, but not in the first week.Edited by exeeter702 on June 4, 2018 10:25PM1 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »
I want jewelry crafting to behave exactly as all other crafting lines in terms of upgrading costs.
Then come back when it's had a couple years to settle, like the other crafting lines have.
The same thing has happened in every other MMO I've played, when a new crafting type (or tier) is introduced - the first couple weeks, the "master crafters" and market moguls take advantage of the rarity of materials & maxed crafters to gouge like hell. Over the next couple months, costs decrease as the supply of materials goes up, the number of capable crafters goes up, and the demand for products goes down.
Welcome to economy 101.
(That said, I agree that the number of nodes is annoyingly low. And the "trait materials also need to be refined from tenths" thing just seems like it was added to make our inventories crash again after they gave us more space with the coffers.)0 -
monktoasty✭✭✭✭✭Stupid prices and drop rates..this game is on for certain types of people. I guess everyone else should leave since we will never see such things0
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✭✭They should streamline JCrafting with the other craftings -> Just make the trait and upgrade items a single piece not a 1/10 of an item. Right now it serves only for transmuting your existing jewelry.
"But gold Hunding's Rage jewelry?!"
I can't imagine people pouring so many resources into crafted jewelry. It's just not worth it.
Just an example:
How much resources I need to craft a legendary Hunding's Rage dagger?
How much resources I need to craft a legendary Hunding's Rage necklace?
It's ridiculious.0 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »
I want jewelry crafting to behave exactly as all other crafting lines in terms of upgrading costs.
Then come back when it's had a couple years to settle, like the other crafting lines have.
The same thing has happened in every other MMO I've played, when a new crafting type (or tier) is introduced - the first couple weeks, the "master crafters" and market moguls take advantage of the rarity of materials & maxed crafters to gouge like hell. Over the next couple months, costs decrease as the supply of materials goes up, the number of capable crafters goes up, and the demand for products goes down.
Welcome to economy 101.
(That said, I agree that the number of nodes is annoyingly low. And the "trait materials also need to be refined from tenths" thing just seems like it was added to make our inventories crash again after they gave us more space with the coffers.)
Im talking about the amount of mats it costs to upgrade a piece of gear not mat prices. Ty for assuming im a total idiot and don't understand basic economics. Quite rude.Edited by Apache_Kid on June 4, 2018 11:43PM3 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Juju_beans wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
Within one week of the chapter coming out ?
I want jewelry crafting to behave exactly as all other crafting lines in terms of upgrading costs.
Its the first week ffs.
Even then, jewelry crafting was never going to be on the same level as other crafts initially. It was always billed and designed to be an expensive outlet. It is going to take an investment in time and / or money to reallly reap the full benefits of the type of build freedom that crafting jewelery provides
Purchasing summerset grants access to the system. Nothing more, nothing less. When more mats begin to circulate, you will see some stabalization, but not in the first week.
It shouldn't cost 10x the amount of mats to upgrade a piece of gear. Sorry. Im not talking about the price of mats.5 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Juju_beans wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Juju_beans wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
Within one week of the chapter coming out ?
I want jewelry crafting to behave exactly as all other crafting lines in terms of upgrading costs.
But that's impossible as all the mats for jewelry are brand new and people are just starting to collect them.
Eventually JC will fall in line with the other crafts but certainly not in the first week.
Yes it is possible, they could've made it so the upgrade mats work the same way as other crafting lines. Once again, im not talking about player set prices. Im talking about how ZoS desgined jewelry crafting.1 -
Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭Jewelry crafting has proven to be completely unreasonable. I hope the cost of required mats will go down soon.0 -
Odnoc✭✭✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Let’s say you want to craft a full 3 piece set of legendary jewelry. Let’s assume you have maxed out your jewelry crafting skills and are Rank III in Platings Expertise. Let’s also say you are either too impatient to grind materials or RNG hates you so you choose to purchase materials in the guild stores. At current average prices (which will not get better any time soon, and will be far worse on console) this is how much you can expect to pay:
Materials and Costs for 2 Rings and 1 Necklace- Platinum Ounces x350 @160g each = 56,000g
- Terne Plating x6 @2,250g each = 13,500g
- Iridium Plating x9 @ 5,000g each = 45,000
- Zircon Plating x12 @ 25,000g each = 300,000g
- Chromium Plating x24 @ 150,000g each = 3,600,000
- Grand Total for 3 piece legendary jewelry set = 4,014,500g
Only the wealthiest players will get to enjoy crafted legendary jewelry.
Once again, ZOS givith and taketh away in a single breath.
Not ZOS's fault you're too impatient... Regardless, farming is still an option.0 -
Odnoc✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »"Only the wealthiest will get to enjoy"
Lol... the entitlement is real.
Entitlement? We literally payed real life money for access to jewelry crafting that we barely get to use. Yes i do feel entitled to stuff i paid real dollars for.
I literally payed real life money for the trials, when can I expect to do them? When I am equipped to. This is no different.
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Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »
I want jewelry crafting to behave exactly as all other crafting lines in terms of upgrading costs.
Then come back when it's had a couple years to settle, like the other crafting lines have.
The same thing has happened in every other MMO I've played, when a new crafting type (or tier) is introduced - the first couple weeks, the "master crafters" and market moguls take advantage of the rarity of materials & maxed crafters to gouge like hell. Over the next couple months, costs decrease as the supply of materials goes up, the number of capable crafters goes up, and the demand for products goes down.
Welcome to economy 101.
(That said, I agree that the number of nodes is annoyingly low. And the "trait materials also need to be refined from tenths" thing just seems like it was added to make our inventories crash again after they gave us more space with the coffers.)
Although that's true, jewelry crafting has one very big problem: grains/platings. They are way too rare, and therefore stupidly expensive. Every other materials and their prices are in line of what can be expected from a brand new crafting skill. If you check the prices in OP, 90% of the combined price is from chromium platings... That's ridiculous.4
