I've had this discussion with fellow RPers before, especially often and heatedly with RPers from WoW. A separate instance for RPers isn't in itself bad, but it's not inherently good either. ESO was built with the megaserver in mind - remember how big of a deal that was when the game was first being launched? This gave ESO RPers a different flavor to RPers in other games.

I can't count the number of times I was out RPing somewhere, anywhere from the middle of town to a quiet place in the overworld wilderness, and random players come by and become interested and even join in some RP, despite never even having thought about it before. It promotes RPers being open to new people coming in, and working into the RP random stuff that happens, rather than saying RP HAS TO BE THIS WAY, AND IT CANNOT WORK IF ONE THING DOESN'T GO LIKE I WANT IT TO.

I understand the desire for comfort and a safe place for RP in ESO, but 1. that's why we have houses, and 2. I don't think that's worth getting rid of the benefits of not having a separate RP server.

And as far as trolls go, you'll encounter them everywhere, regardless of a separate server (although when you are in a separate server you do know they're deliberately targeting you), but if you are used to dealing with non-RPers in-character like you would be without a separate server, it's a lot easier to deal with. Hell, I've met some who think that RP is stupid at first, but later are brought into the fold. That wouldn't happen with a dedicated RP instance.

This is all beside the fact that we don't want to fragment the playerbase, or push people deeper into their bubbles, and how annoying it would be for someone who would then need to switch servers back and forth for their different needs.

Also I just really enjoy roleplaying with people who had no idea about RP. It's always a little delight when someone hears someone with a convincing Khajiit voice in voice chat, and it's always a nice little indulgence for me to catch people off-guard.

Marginis wrote: »

I've had this discussion with fellow RPers before, especially often and heatedly with RPers from WoW. A separate instance for RPers isn't in itself bad, but it's not inherently good either. ESO was built with the megaserver in mind - remember how big of a deal that was when the game was first being launched? This gave ESO RPers a different flavor to RPers in other games.

I can't count the number of times I was out RPing somewhere, anywhere from the middle of town to a quiet place in the overworld wilderness, and random players come by and become interested and even join in some RP, despite never even having thought about it before. It promotes RPers being open to new people coming in, and working into the RP random stuff that happens, rather than saying RP HAS TO BE THIS WAY, AND IT CANNOT WORK IF ONE THING DOESN'T GO LIKE I WANT IT TO.

I understand the desire for comfort and a safe place for RP in ESO, but 1. that's why we have houses, and 2. I don't think that's worth getting rid of the benefits of not having a separate RP server.

And as far as trolls go, you'll encounter them everywhere, regardless of a separate server (although when you are in a separate server you do know they're deliberately targeting you), but if you are used to dealing with non-RPers in-character like you would be without a separate server, it's a lot easier to deal with. Hell, I've met some who think that RP is stupid at first, but later are brought into the fold. That wouldn't happen with a dedicated RP instance.

This is all beside the fact that we don't want to fragment the playerbase, or push people deeper into their bubbles, and how annoying it would be for someone who would then need to switch servers back and forth for their different needs.

Also I just really enjoy roleplaying with people who had no idea about RP. It's always a little delight when someone hears someone with a convincing Khajiit voice in voice chat, and it's always a nice little indulgence for me to catch people off-guard.

Although you know, managing to squeeze those interested in Roleplay together doesn't decrease the chance of encountering strangers. The very point of the suggestion is to increase it. Having 2 people who identify as ESO playing Roleplayers stand in the same zone on the same spot is the problem that I'd love to see solved.

If RPers get griefed by others In Game those griefers will catch the perma banned ticket. Saw it in action years ago when I came across a rp group in storm haven. This guy was interrupting their purple text with comments and the next thing bam. Banned. It is not worth messing with RPers in zone. J/s. Lol

On a side note giving the RPers their own little phase would thin out the other servers. But before that happens can you fix the lag in pvp ZOS plz?

Domerack wrote: »

Updated the original post

I like the idea of introducing more tools to help players of a like mind, in this case RPers, group up together. Still not sure a separate phase is the best - or even a good, for that matter - way to do that.

A solution to the issue outlined in this thread would indeed be greatly welcomed by the roleplaying community. It's hard enough to find like-minded players without the extensive use of forums.

I don't think we need a separate RP server but I do like the idea of a toggle that can phase you with RPers or at least PRIORITIZE RPers to phase you with. That way if nobody toggles you'll just be in a normal phase and can still do things like world bosses or dolmens.

I don't thing it should kick in for dungeon pick-up groups, though. Most RPers don't RP doing dungeons anyway and if there was a toggle for THAT, it would be griefed in a way that's more unavoidable than moving RP elsewhere.

Lysette wrote: »

I see a problem in this - because not just roleplayers will tick it - but as well those, who want to grief and annoy roleplayers -and with this option they know exactly where to find them.

I think I'd take my chances on having some griefers join in if it could put us Rpers together. As an older RPer who used to always play on RP servers, I have hell trying to find some. When the game first came out I saw quite a bit but in the last 2 years I haven't seen much.

I'd be happy with even a tag of sorts next to name that I can flag on and off when I'm in the mood to RP.

If someone knows where to find the RP please let me know (via PM is fine). I believe it missing is one of the reason I'm slowly losing interest in playing as much as I used to.

Marginis wrote: »

I've had this discussion with fellow RPers before, especially often and heatedly with RPers from WoW. A separate instance for RPers isn't in itself bad, but it's not inherently good either. ESO was built with the megaserver in mind - remember how big of a deal that was when the game was first being launched? This gave ESO RPers a different flavor to RPers in other games.

I can't count the number of times I was out RPing somewhere, anywhere from the middle of town to a quiet place in the overworld wilderness, and random players come by and become interested and even join in some RP, despite never even having thought about it before. It promotes RPers being open to new people coming in, and working into the RP random stuff that happens, rather than saying RP HAS TO BE THIS WAY, AND IT CANNOT WORK IF ONE THING DOESN'T GO LIKE I WANT IT TO.

I understand the desire for comfort and a safe place for RP in ESO, but 1. that's why we have houses, and 2. I don't think that's worth getting rid of the benefits of not having a separate RP server.

And as far as trolls go, you'll encounter them everywhere, regardless of a separate server (although when you are in a separate server you do know they're deliberately targeting you), but if you are used to dealing with non-RPers in-character like you would be without a separate server, it's a lot easier to deal with. Hell, I've met some who think that RP is stupid at first, but later are brought into the fold. That wouldn't happen with a dedicated RP instance.

This is all beside the fact that we don't want to fragment the playerbase, or push people deeper into their bubbles, and how annoying it would be for someone who would then need to switch servers back and forth for their different needs.

Also I just really enjoy roleplaying with people who had no idea about RP. It's always a little delight when someone hears someone with a convincing Khajiit voice in voice chat, and it's always a nice little indulgence for me to catch people off-guard.

you get it. most ppl don't.

Somehow the priorities here appear so bizarrely twisted though. A mega-server like the current one increases the chances that Non-Rpers stumble across RPers and maybe, just maybe get interested, yes. However, how can the exposure of RP to non-Rpers possibly be more important the unification of existent RPers who have already proven to have the same interest?

I'm not an rper but I think it's really cool when someone can be open to the possibility of others joining in the fun, and also be able to improv with those others. Kudos OP.

There are more hub-based guilds lately for different RP themes like city life, criminal underground or monsters. The alliance guilds still exist, although they aren't as big of a deal since One Tamriel was released and people could jump across the continent to join a phase in a different faction.

One Tamriel and housing emboldened some GMs to create more hub guilds.
The problem is you can only join 5 guilds, so between PVE, PVP, guild trading, social, and RP it can be hard to get into everything you want. Phasing still poses a problem, I haven't run into unexpected RP in 5 months. Fewer RPers will have been running across each other or gaining access to the same instances and the RP world shrinks has shrunk as a result.

*Edit* We could use something like what the OP has proposed.

Domerack wrote: »

How will fewer RPers run across each other if the game puts RPers in the same phase more effectively than it does now? That's the very opposite of the idea, the ambition and the probable outcome

Oh I agree with the OP, it would fix the problem and I could have typed out my thoughts better.

*There I fixed it.*