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What change of current trading system will satisfy you?

ldzlcs065
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To me it is clear that, compared to other popular mmorpg, a much larger proportion of players in ESO complain of the current Guild Store system and only tolerate it, and also a much larger proportion of potential players decide to quit mainly because they can't tolerate this system. However, it seems that there is little chance we can get rid of it in the future. With that said, there is no harm to image a most satisfactory trading system in ESO. What's your opinion about this?

I want to stress again that this poll is solely about your preference, not about what ZOS "should" do or what we "should" expect. Please only make relevant comments, thanks in advance...

What change of current trading system will satisfy you? 251 votes

Nothing except possibly bug fixes, the current system is perfect
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Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
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Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre
21%
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Local auction house for each separated zone
3%
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Global auction house like WOW or GW2
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A trading system like BDO
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None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)
7%
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  • Malacthulhu
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    They should do 3 master merchanrs should create 1 for each alliance and seperate the gold currency into 3 different currencies that can be exchanged at a rate based off total currency held by each alliance creating an artificial inflation when one has more then the other devaluing the currency. Also, add a cost to the exchange.
    Edited by Malacthulhu on May 29, 2018 5:06PM
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Global auction house like WOW or GW2
    Global AH like the rest of the common sensed up to date MMO's
  • Tandor
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    None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)
    Opening up the present system so as to allow limited listings of items by non-guild members or members of guilds without traders.

    A proper search function.

    A level playing field with a uniform system across all platforms, entirely contained within the game rather than being dependent on external sites.
  • Sheezabeast
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    I just want to be able to have a search bar so you can type a key word, like Agility for example, and it pull up all items in the guild store I'm at that have the word Agility in it. A search bar would make our system much more user friendly.
    Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    The main problem with the current system is that we have very small number of trader spots in high traffic areas, but tons of traders in remote, low traffic, out of the way spots that only generate sales if they price stuff significantly below avg, relying too much on third party tamrieltradecentre website to send people to the remote kiosk.

    Some tweaks that I feel would improve the guild store experience for buyers and sellers, and help large guilds as well as small guilds:
    • Add UI features similar to Awesome Guild Store, search function etc
    • Move traders in Ebonheart to Davon's Watch (EP starting town)
    • Move traders in Skywatch to Vukhel Guard (AD starting town)
    • Remove all the traders from remote, out of the way spots and relocate them to capital city of each zone (except use starting town instead for Auridon and Stonefalls)
    • Make sure all traders are very close to wayshrine of the capital city
    • Add claimable guild store dialogue menu to every NPC quartermaster in Cyrodiil including resources, outposts and towns, and require guild store unlock to claim them
    • Add a couple additional trader NPCs to outlaw refuges



    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on May 29, 2018 5:14PM
  • Linaleah
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    I made my choice because while it will not make everyone happy, it seems like it will make the least amount of people UNhappy and will certainly fix some of the more glaring issues with the system, in particular on consoles.

    that said... i would prefer centralized system, in particular something like what GW2 has. why specifically guild wars 2? becasue purchase orders. I want to spend as little time trading as possible and purchase orders means i can get gold right now. sure I get less gold then if I would list something and wait, but like I said... least amount of time possible.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • xilfxlegion
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    Nothing except possibly bug fixes, the current system is perfect
    kind of curious as to how you
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    To me it is clear that, compared to other popular mmorpg, a much larger proportion of players in ESO complain of the current Guild Store system and only tolerate it, and also a much larger proportion of potential players decide to quit mainly because they can't tolerate this system. However, it seems that there is little chance we can get rid of it in the future. With that said, there is no harm to image a most satisfactory trading system in ESO. What's your opinion about this?

    I want to stress again that this poll is solely about your preference, not about what ZOS "should" do or what we "should" expect. Please only make relevant comments, thanks in advance...

    im curious as to where you get your info about people leaving because of the current system ?
  • Xerikten
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    none of the above.

    copy the eq2 model.

    game global, no need to even go to a ah to buy. you just click on a icon in the menu (like we have at the top of our screen) and you can search and buy where ever you are. search is more involved and detailed. where there is a bank there is a ah in the world.


    I don't think selling out of your house will work in this game though.
  • Avalon
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    Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre
    I would like the basic functionality from the add-ons added in, but, I would also like an NPC or Market Board in each major city of each zone that can allow players to search for items within that same zone, or perhaps the alliance, to find the item they are looking for, and which trader. If they keep it to one for each zone, it should narrow down the amounts loaded into each NPC/Board, and somewhat limit the amount of traffic each one is seeing at all times.
  • ldzlcs065
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    Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre
    kind of curious as to how you
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    To me it is clear that, compared to other popular mmorpg, a much larger proportion of players in ESO complain of the current Guild Store system and only tolerate it, and also a much larger proportion of potential players decide to quit mainly because they can't tolerate this system. However, it seems that there is little chance we can get rid of it in the future. With that said, there is no harm to image a most satisfactory trading system in ESO. What's your opinion about this?

    I want to stress again that this poll is solely about your preference, not about what ZOS "should" do or what we "should" expect. Please only make relevant comments, thanks in advance...

    im curious as to where you get your info about people leaving because of the current system ?

    All my friends quit ESO for this reason, and I have several discussion about which mmorpg is more enjoyable in other non official game forum, most time when people vote against ESO they are like "the trading system is horrible, other than that, it's a fairly good game"
  • Ley
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    I am mostly pleased with the way the trading system works for PC users with addons. Enhance the search/filtering options to at least match Awesome Guild Stores and I think a lot of players would be happy, especially console players.
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  • Malacthulhu
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    I am against a standardized system unless it is limited without impeaching on the current system. I am on console too. I like the fact I can shop around, sometimes I dislike the fact I have to shop around. It is a double edge sword but, competing in a big open market would be annoying. However as trade guilds get bigger they branch out and have monopolies. A moderate ah with restrictions could help offset this.
    Edited by Malacthulhu on May 29, 2018 5:26PM
    Xbox One Na
  • Motherball
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    They should also add TTC and Nirn Auction House capabilities imo
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    Xerikten wrote: »
    none of the above.

    copy the eq2 model.

    game global, no need to even go to a ah to buy. you just click on a icon in the menu (like we have at the top of our screen) and you can search and buy where ever you are. search is more involved and detailed. where there is a bank there is a ah in the world.


    I don't think selling out of your house will work in this game though.

    Boy, that sure makes a change from standing in the tunnel at East Commons shouting your wares. :)

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Acrolas
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    Keyword search (for those with keyboards) and search by first letter (for those without).
    signing off
  • Heka Cain
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    Auction house to put the scum traders out of business!
  • Abelon
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    Global auction house like WOW or GW2
    The integration of addons will not make me satisfied. Why would it? A system should be fit for use from the beginning.
  • Aesthier
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    None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)
    Worldwide auction house not limited to bidding guilds.

    AKA anyone can use it regardless of their affiliation.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    other...

    substantial upgrade to the ui.
  • Jhalin
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    Literally all it needs is a functional UI and 90% of the legitimate complaints about the system are taken care of
  • xilfxlegion
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    Nothing except possibly bug fixes, the current system is perfect
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    kind of curious as to how you
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    To me it is clear that, compared to other popular mmorpg, a much larger proportion of players in ESO complain of the current Guild Store system and only tolerate it, and also a much larger proportion of potential players decide to quit mainly because they can't tolerate this system. However, it seems that there is little chance we can get rid of it in the future. With that said, there is no harm to image a most satisfactory trading system in ESO. What's your opinion about this?

    I want to stress again that this poll is solely about your preference, not about what ZOS "should" do or what we "should" expect. Please only make relevant comments, thanks in advance...

    im curious as to where you get your info about people leaving because of the current system ?

    All my friends quit ESO for this reason, and I have several discussion about which mmorpg is more enjoyable in other non official game forum, most time when people vote against ESO they are like "the trading system is horrible, other than that, it's a fairly good game"

    so your friends make up a large proportion of players ? you must be a popular guy
  • Gythral
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    None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)
    Adding some of the functionality of Awesome Guild Store,
    all of Master Merchant, with regional price trends, not just your 5 guilds


    A fixed fee for a guild getting a trader, and any guild that will pay the fee gets listed even if that's 2, 10 or 1e6 Guild Stores on 1 trader, with a banker style pick the guild option, the fees need to be at the high end of the current quarters average winning bid
    (probably not more than 10 per trader tbh)
    Edited by Gythral on May 29, 2018 6:04PM
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  • ldzlcs065
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    Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    kind of curious as to how you
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    To me it is clear that, compared to other popular mmorpg, a much larger proportion of players in ESO complain of the current Guild Store system and only tolerate it, and also a much larger proportion of potential players decide to quit mainly because they can't tolerate this system. However, it seems that there is little chance we can get rid of it in the future. With that said, there is no harm to image a most satisfactory trading system in ESO. What's your opinion about this?

    I want to stress again that this poll is solely about your preference, not about what ZOS "should" do or what we "should" expect. Please only make relevant comments, thanks in advance...

    im curious as to where you get your info about people leaving because of the current system ?

    All my friends quit ESO for this reason, and I have several discussion about which mmorpg is more enjoyable in other non official game forum, most time when people vote against ESO they are like "the trading system is horrible, other than that, it's a fairly good game"

    so your friends make up a large proportion of players ? you must be a popular guy

    I just stated my impression. Since when have you gain the power to censor how other people form their own opinion? Shall I call you Big Brother?
  • idk
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    Zos has shown they are willing to add to the ultra basic UI they reverted to during beta testing and adding some functionality would be beneficial.
  • AlnilamE
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    I would hesitate at adding Master Merchant functionality, but AwesomeGuildStore is a must.
    Some tweaks that I feel would improve the guild store experience for buyers and sellers, and help large guilds as well as small guilds:
    • Add UI features similar to Awesome Guild Store, search function etc
    • Move traders in Ebonheart to Davon's Watch (EP starting town)
    • Move traders in Skywatch to Vukhel Guard (AD starting town)
    • Remove all the traders from remote, out of the way spots and relocate them to capital city of each zone (except use starting town instead for Auridon and Stonefalls)
    • Make sure all traders are very close to wayshrine of the capital city
    • Add claimable guild store dialogue menu to every NPC quartermaster in Cyrodiil including resources, outposts and towns, and require guild store unlock to claim them
    • Add a couple additional trader NPCs to outlaw refuges



    I don't believe that moving the out of town traders into town would benefit small guilds. In fact, I believe it would price them out of the market.

    Though some cities really need their traders closer to the wayshrine, like Shornhelm in Rivenspire.

    Adding a couple more traders to outlaw refuges would make them more attractive and compensate for the loadscreen, but I would think that a maximum of 3 would be best.

    OP, when you say "A trading system like BDO" don't you mean a "non-trading system like BDO"? :-P
    The Moot Councillor
  • xilfxlegion
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    Nothing except possibly bug fixes, the current system is perfect
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    kind of curious as to how you
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    To me it is clear that, compared to other popular mmorpg, a much larger proportion of players in ESO complain of the current Guild Store system and only tolerate it, and also a much larger proportion of potential players decide to quit mainly because they can't tolerate this system. However, it seems that there is little chance we can get rid of it in the future. With that said, there is no harm to image a most satisfactory trading system in ESO. What's your opinion about this?

    I want to stress again that this poll is solely about your preference, not about what ZOS "should" do or what we "should" expect. Please only make relevant comments, thanks in advance...

    im curious as to where you get your info about people leaving because of the current system ?

    All my friends quit ESO for this reason, and I have several discussion about which mmorpg is more enjoyable in other non official game forum, most time when people vote against ESO they are like "the trading system is horrible, other than that, it's a fairly good game"

    so your friends make up a large proportion of players ? you must be a popular guy

    I just stated my impression. Since when have you gain the power to censor how other people form their own opinion? Shall I call you Big Brother?

    censor ? i dont think you know what that word means. i simply asked a question, goob
  • ldzlcs065
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    Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    kind of curious as to how you
    ldzlcs065 wrote: »
    To me it is clear that, compared to other popular mmorpg, a much larger proportion of players in ESO complain of the current Guild Store system and only tolerate it, and also a much larger proportion of potential players decide to quit mainly because they can't tolerate this system. However, it seems that there is little chance we can get rid of it in the future. With that said, there is no harm to image a most satisfactory trading system in ESO. What's your opinion about this?

    I want to stress again that this poll is solely about your preference, not about what ZOS "should" do or what we "should" expect. Please only make relevant comments, thanks in advance...

    im curious as to where you get your info about people leaving because of the current system ?

    All my friends quit ESO for this reason, and I have several discussion about which mmorpg is more enjoyable in other non official game forum, most time when people vote against ESO they are like "the trading system is horrible, other than that, it's a fairly good game"

    so your friends make up a large proportion of players ? you must be a popular guy

    I just stated my impression. Since when have you gain the power to censor how other people form their own opinion? Shall I call you Big Brother?

    censor ? i dont think you know what that word means. i simply asked a question, goob

    So you think your words are so smart that no one can read the true message? Seriously? Well enjoy yourself then.
  • Coppes
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    Global auction house like WOW or GW2
    I understand that the "local trading guilds" are kinda lore-friendly to TES. You wouldn't expect like a select few merchants just knowing all the prices around all of Tamriel.

    But, travelling around all the guild stores just to find a good price is kinda annoying.
  • EvilAutoTech
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    None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)
    Like the majority of ESO players, I have never actually seen how Master Merchant and Awesome Guild Store work.

    I believe the current system could be decent. It would take some UI upgrades:

    1. Text search is required. I should be able to find out if a trader has what I want without having to scroll through so many pages of similar but different items.

    2. When I search for a blacksmithing motif, I should only see motifs that will let me learn how to make stuff at a smithy. I should not see motif pages for shields, bows or staves. The same goes for all other professions.

    3. Although not my idea, but one I can agree with, I would like to see a toggle for hide known motif/recipe/design/etc.


    If they were to implement the first, I would stop complaining about the others. I spend a lot of time interacting with the guild store system. More than is fun.
  • NoTimeToWait
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    Integrating the functionality of Master Merchant and AwesomeGuildStore
    Jeez, just why would one want the trading system like in other games? Trading is repetitive enough to be boring after few years of playing the market in one game. Why do you want to bring the same experience to another game(considering lots of options mentioning other MMOs)?
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