What change of current trading system will satisfy you?

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2018

Centralized Zone Traders where Trade Guilds buy a slot in the Trader. Non-Trader Members can still list on the CZT but will incur taxes and a smaller number of listings. Trade Guild members items will be "advertised" at the front of any searches on the CZT. You would still need to move Zone to Zone to interact with the Traders there. But you wouldnt need to go out to the boonies to search for items.

greylox · May 2018

Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre

Global trader of some sorts, running around every single trader takes forever, no way to check prices otherwise unless you use add ons. I tend to just use the same one unless I'm buying something really expensive so it isn't fair to smaller or out the way traders. Also a global auction house would mean people not in trade guilds could sell, just make them pay a higher tax as a pay off. And for the love of God, why isn't there a search bar so I can type in what I'm looking for?

maboleth · May 2018

Memorize my guild store selection so i wouldn't have to pick one every_single_time.

Aeeeek · May 2018

I would hate a global auction house.
EVE's regional market works well but EVE doesn't have fast travel like Wayshrines, doubt it would translate.

Arc_Aliapoh · May 2018

Global auction house like WOW or GW2

As much as I wish there was a global trading house like any other sane MMO, it is not likely to happen.

Instead, how about allowing guildless to sell their product to a distributor NPC that will put their wares in a random guild kiosk based on a tax level they choose? For example, they decide to list at the distributor at a 30% tax and that distributor places the item in a random "premium" spot( premium being something like the top 20 bidded traders). A portion of the tax fee will go to the guild who currently owns that trader. If they decide to list it at a 5% tax fee they get sorted randomly into a lower tier trader (least bids). The listing max should also be limited to avoid diluting a guilds trader with guildless product, say a max of 3-5 items/stacks at once per account. An Opt-in and Op-out feature for guilds should also be in place if they decide the tax money is not incentive enough.

LadyDestiny · May 2018

Global auction house like WOW or GW2

I am all for a global auction. Really tired of the current system as it is. Tired of paying guild fees AND trade fees on top of it to keep a good trader with a good location. That being said, keeping the current guild traders, we definitely need like master merchant or something on console. It is so limited and so far behind pc players. Would be nice to see everything for sale globally, prices and where instead of zone jumping. Too difficult to keep up with pricing anymore on console and I don't stand around selling in zone chat. Don't have time for it. I just think guild traders was the poorest decision in this game that Zos made. Just my opinion though. I love everything else.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · May 2018

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Mannix1958 wrote: »

I just here to see this horse beaten again.

Here you are my friend,,, Huzzah!

lientier · May 2018

None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)

more selling slots

DanteYoda · May 2018

Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre

I don't like ESO guild traders but i hated GW2 Auction house more.. I just feel all guild traders should be put into one large spot instead of all over the dame world.

A single AH would be too easy to exploit with gold farmers sell bots.

Grabmoore · May 2018

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Aesthier wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

You all know, who would reign the market then: Bots. ZOS does nothing to ban them in time. I once reported a CP 430 bot! Noone would be able to make good money via trading with a global AH.

I don't see the difference as by the time I am able to find something I need at a price I can afford someone else has marked it up 400% by the time I am able to port straight there anyway.

At least with global the prices, the amount someone marks their stuff up by is more reasonable.

@Tandor too.

You don't see my point. Both of you would be the losers of a gobal AH system as well. There won't be a single item you would sell anymore. People buy the cheapest item. Guess what, non of you would be able to undercut the competitive traders. All you see is the easy search function as a buyer. That's all it would offer. Soon your sales would go to 0....

red_emu · May 2018

None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)

'Search by key word' function would be great!

MerlinPendragon · May 2018

None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)

More sale slots for ESO plus members.

Aeeeek · May 2018

MerlinPendragon wrote: »

More sale slots for ESO plus members.

more guilds for ESO members would achieve that, without biasing guild member selection

Tandor · May 2018

None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)

Grabmoore wrote: »

Aesthier wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

You all know, who would reign the market then: Bots. ZOS does nothing to ban them in time. I once reported a CP 430 bot! Noone would be able to make good money via trading with a global AH.

I don't see the difference as by the time I am able to find something I need at a price I can afford someone else has marked it up 400% by the time I am able to port straight there anyway.

At least with global the prices, the amount someone marks their stuff up by is more reasonable.

@Tandor too.

You don't see my point. Both of you would be the losers of a gobal AH system as well. There won't be a single item you would sell anymore. People buy the cheapest item. Guess what, non of you would be able to undercut the competitive traders. All you see is the easy search function as a buyer. That's all it would offer. Soon your sales would go to 0....

You couldn't be more wrong about how it would suit me. I don't trade in ESO, I hate the whole concept of locking core trading functions behind guild membership and random bidding exercises for a limited supply of traders dotted all over the world.So in ESO my sales after 4 years are already at 0, whereas in those MMOs with a decent trading system based around an auction house I've never had the slightest problem selling my items. I've probably bought half a dozen items in ESO compared to making regular purchases in other MMOs. The trading system is simply dysfunctional not least on console but also for those of us on PC who don't use addons and/or are purely casual sellers.

I'd be perfectly happy with the existing system if it was opened up to non-guild sellers and those whose guilds lacked a trader through say a NPC trader in each main location with only limited slots and high commission rates to be shared between the guilds trading in those locations. There are plenty of ways of enhancing the guild trader system so as to render it open to all, (as well as improving the UI and making it the same across the platforms), but as a straight choice between the present system in its current form and an alternative auction house system I'd opt for the latter without hesitation, supported by my experience of that kind of system in many MMOs these past umpteen years.

Vrienda · May 2018

Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre

A global AH and/or at least the ability to search the guild stores using text.

Rawreak Rovyre · May 2018

Global auction house like WOW or GW2

I envision a global auction where the cut taken is steeper than the guild stores, so you're better off in a guild store.

However, for those of us who really are truly lone wolves, the option exists to sell our wares without joining some forced ***.

Motherball · May 2018

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Grabmoore wrote: »

Aesthier wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

You all know, who would reign the market then: Bots. ZOS does nothing to ban them in time. I once reported a CP 430 bot! Noone would be able to make good money via trading with a global AH.

I don't see the difference as by the time I am able to find something I need at a price I can afford someone else has marked it up 400% by the time I am able to port straight there anyway.

At least with global the prices, the amount someone marks their stuff up by is more reasonable.

@Tandor too.

You don't see my point. Both of you would be the losers of a gobal AH system as well. There won't be a single item you would sell anymore. People buy the cheapest item. Guess what, non of you would be able to undercut the competitive traders. All you see is the easy search function as a buyer. That's all it would offer. Soon your sales would go to 0....

How do you figure? You assume that they don’t know how to play the system or have made millions of coin in other games with an AH. It doesnt take much effort to accumulate a stack of items and then put a small amount for sale here and there as you happen to be undercut. Hell I do that even in ESO. You also do not realize that people dont always just buy the cheapest auction. Sometimes they buy the cheapest as well as the next more expensive few stacks as well. As long as there is a demand for an item, it will sell if offered at a good price, in every game I’ve played.

Soella · May 2018

Adding "search across all guild stores" function like Tamriel Trade Centre

Crafting/trading is a big part of any MMO for me, and ESO would have very good opportunities for me if not the guild traders.

I so don't like that I have to be part of the guild to simply sell whatever I have, it is additional commitment I don't like to have.

Alinhbo_Tyaka · May 2018

None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »

While I would prefer a full auction house or market board but I think that horse has left the barn. In its stead I think some type of a public trader would fit in without damaging the trading guilds private stalls. It would allow me as someone who will never be in a guild to sell/buy the odds and ends I generate/require through crafting and gathering. I would also like to see some type of global search built into the game as I am not big on add-ons and the like.

Sadly there really isn't a way to accommodate this without hurting the guild trade economy.

Sure there is. Off the top of my head you could limit the stack sizes and number of listings. Add in a buy/sell fee.

While doing writs it is fairly common that I need a few more of something. Yes I could go gather but it is usually faster to buy however with the current system I'm stuck with 200 because that is what the guilds sell for stacks. Likewise I end up with left overs that I rather not take up bank/bag space. I have no choice but to vendor yet I know there are others like me who could use them. If somehow it does affect the guilds then they can adapt as it means they aren't really serving their customers needs and only get by with it due to a monopoly business model.

shadowwraith666 · May 2018

Global auction house like WOW or GW2

a market system without having to join a guild would be a good start, putting that feature behind a guild wall was a big mistake.

IcyDeadPeople · May 2018

lientier wrote: »

more selling slots

This would be a great improvement!

riberion · May 2018

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I really just want a better search function. I have no problem with MM being a separate add on, but the search options are dismal in the current guild store UI.

Aesthier · May 2018

None of the above will make me satisfied (please explain your thought)

Grabmoore wrote: »

Aesthier wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

You all know, who would reign the market then: Bots. ZOS does nothing to ban them in time. I once reported a CP 430 bot! Noone would be able to make good money via trading with a global AH.

I don't see the difference as by the time I am able to find something I need at a price I can afford someone else has marked it up 400% by the time I am able to port straight there anyway.

At least with global the prices, the amount someone marks their stuff up by is more reasonable.

@Tandor too.

You don't see my point. Both of you would be the losers of a gobal AH system as well. There won't be a single item you would sell anymore. People buy the cheapest item. Guess what, non of you would be able to undercut the competitive traders. All you see is the easy search function as a buyer. That's all it would offer. Soon your sales would go to 0....

I will agree that I may not be seeing your perspective however after working with centralized auction/trade systems for years I can assure you I am perfectly capable of (and regularly do in those markets) undercutting the competition.

I am not a fan of a system that forces guild leaders to filter what can and cannot be listed on the guild trader due to the amount of taxation it generates for the guild.

I am not a fan of a system that encourages guilds to create secondary guilds to ensure they will have at least one trader they can sell from if they lose a bid on the main trader they bid on.

TLDR;

You are wrong in your assumption that I and others would not be able to undercut competition as I have for many years been doing so in such systems.

I prefer centralized systems.

I believe this thread was made to take an account of the numbers and where they fall as to who prefers what and NOT debating those preferences as ZoS has made it plainly clear they will never change it.

And @Tandor
I completely and wholeheartedly agree with your point about not enjoying the current system and also believe that at the very least a centralized system (perhaps a single universal trader located in the main city of each alliance) should be implemented so that those with no guilds or no trading guilds could trade.