I'm getting to the point where the frustration is overwhelming my want to play.

Aluneth
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I came to ESO from a long history of MMORPGs, I started playing WoW two weeks after the release, and Guild Wars right at the release. I tried out most of the other MMO's (Conan, Lotro, Warhammer online, Star Wars, etc) when they came out, but I stuck to WoW and GW. It was first with the release of Morrowind that I tried out Elder Scrolls Online, and I was hooked. I enjoyed this game so much that I unsubscribed my WoW account, something that I hadn't done since I first started playing it. I normally play one MMO and then single player games on the side, and I've been completely taken by ESO since I started it, and it's been my go-to MMO.

I'm very accepting when it comes to flaws in games, and some of my favorite games are far from perfect. I don't complain about graphics, I rarely complain about the story, nor do I complain about the gameplay. If a game interests me enough, I'm willing to accept these flaws (Shoutout to Arcanum). I've found one major flaw with ESO, something that normally haven't bothered me, and that is the bugs and glitches that the game suffer from.

I don't know if I've been spoiled by mainly playing WoW and GW, but I've never ever had so much frustration with bugs, as that I've had with ESO. Now I'll give you some examples.

1. The most frustrating glitch in the game for me right now, and the one I can't seem to avoid, is the in-combat glitch. I have to spend 30 seconds waiting before I can enter doors in dungeons, and playing as a tank that prefers to have a smooth and fast run, that is infuriating. When I'm out in the world, I'm clearing a group of mobs that are guarding a chest, I can't loot the chest after I've made sure to kill everyone, and checking that I'm 'hidden'. Before this bug goes away, someone else comes and loots the chest in front of me. This happens to me with chests, crafting nodes, and everything else that I can possible interact with. My friend who I quest with has to wait around 20 seconds for me to be able to talk to interact with a quest giver.

2. I've been unable to complete wayrest sewers II on one of my characters, as the first door won't open. I've read up on it and it seems the NPC gets stuck and can't interact with the NPCs at the door. This hasn't happened only once to me, this has happened several times on different characters.

3. I have had to give up on the daily dungeon reward a few days now, because I have limited time on certain days, and I don't have the time to complete 2-4 dungeons on every character, for it to register that I've completed my daily dungeon.

4. I've been unable to research the last couple of days, and it's very frustrating.

Now I do understand that #3 and #4 seems to have came with summerset, and when you release something that major, it tends to make the game a bit unstable for a couple of weeks. My problem is that there are already what I consider game breaking bugs(defined as in a bug that makes me not want to play the game), as can be seen in #1, and that it doesn't seem like the developers are in contact with the playerbase when it concerns these problems. I play games to enjoy the experience, and when that enjoyment gets replaced by frustration, then I'm not going to play that game.

TLDR : I find ESO amazing, and I cancelled my subscription to WoW (had been subscribed since the start) when I took up ESO after the Morrowind release. The bugs and glitches are starting to cause more frustration, than I get pleasure out of playing this game. There seems to be a lack of contact between the developers and the playerbase when it comes to these problems. They either don't get solved, or it takes too long.





  • JasonSilverSpring
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    Have you tried disabling all add-ons to see if that makes a difference. I don't do dungeons so I cannot comment on those issues, but I have definitely done research since the Summerset release and many others have because of jewelry research. If there was a major bug preventing research it would be all over the forums. I also do not have any issue with the game recognizing when I am out of combat (in PVE overland content).

    I have had a bunch of issues with some add-ons though. Even a few that were updated have issues. If you are not using add-ons or have already tried that, then I am at a loss as to what is going on.

    EDIT: I do agree that communication can be lacking. A simple "Known Issues" sticky at the top of the forums would be great. Even better if they would put updates on those known issues. They have done this in the past but it is infrequent.
    Edited by JasonSilverSpring on May 27, 2018 10:34AM
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Your #1 is generally a Warden issue but can also affect Nightblades to a lesser extent, it generally happens when one of your spells and passives grants a healing effect or buff to another player. If it happens when no one else is around, the bear becomes the culprit as it receives your heals/buffs too and creates lingering combat. You got to constantly jump around, weapon swap, unsheathe your weapon, etc. to get it to go away... none of which I think actually works, its just timing.
  • Aluneth
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    Have you tried disabling all add-ons to see if that makes a difference. I don't do dungeons so I cannot comment on those issues, but I have definitely done research since the Summerset release and many others have because of jewelry research. If there was a major bug preventing research it would be all over the forums. I also do not have any issue with the game recognizing when I am out of combat (in PVE overland content).

    I have had a bunch of issues with some add-ons though. Even a few that were updated have issues. If you are not using add-ons or have already tried that, then I am at a loss as to what is going on.

    EDIT: I do agree that communication can be lacking. A simple "Known Issues" sticky at the top of the forums would be great. Even better if they would put updates on those known issues. They have done this in the past but it is infrequent.

    I only use lorebooks and skyshard addons. I play a warden tank, and it's not uncommon for me to ball up groups of 5-10 mobs when I clear both dungeon content and world content. The people who join my dungeons don't seem to suffer from this problem as much as I do, especially the healers.

    I agree with you on the "known issues" sticky. I wouldn't mind so much if I knew that they were aware of it, and it was being worked upon. I feel (personal opinion) that they're prioritizing their resources wrongly. Their main priority should be to make sure that the game is playable.
    Edited by Aluneth on May 27, 2018 10:39AM
  • Raraaku
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    Your #1 is generally a Warden issue but can also affect Nightblades to a lesser extent, it generally happens when one of your spells and passives grants a healing effect or buff to another player. If it happens when no one else is around, the bear becomes the culprit as it receives your heals/buffs too and creates lingering combat. You got to constantly jump around, weapon swap, unsheathe your weapon, etc. to get it to go away... none of which I think actually works, its just timing.

    ^ This, particularly if you're using Frost Cloak with Guardian Ultimate. Have you tried trying this without having Cloak activated? I think recasting at the end of battle might also help, not sure about that thought. Luckily, overland content will not need Frost Cloak for the vast majority of content if you're a tank and you probably will not be slotting Guardian during dungeons (vet content at least). Try those option and see if they help alleviate the problem.
    Back from a much needed break. || I like having too many projects and working on them all at once.

    Tank Enthusiast || CP: 445 || Stormproof

    Tanks
    Karsaak gro-Ursa: DC || Orc || Stamina Dragonknight || Tank || Level: CP 445
    Sir Leopold Stotch: DC || Breton || Magicka Templar || Tank || Level: 445
    Protects-Squishy-Ones: EP || Argonian || Magicka Sorcerer || Tank/CC || Level: CP 445
    Björn Shadow-Walker: EP || Nord || Stamina Nightblade || Tank || Level: 15
    Tiberius Valerion: AD || Imperial || Stamina Warden || Tank || Level: 15

    Damage Dealers
    Morrigan Ravyn-Cloak: AD || Altmer || Magicka Nightblade || DPS || Level: CP 445
    Ra'Zahkara: AD || Khajiit || Stamina Dragonknight || DPS || Level: CP 445
    Ezra al-Khazir: DC || Redguard || Stamina Templar || DPS || Level: 40
    Erryndril Telvaux: EP || Dunmer || Magicka Dragonknight || DPS || Level: 25
    Uzara gra-Khalari: DC || Orc || Stamina Nightblade || DPS [2H/DW] || Level: 15
    Solomon Motierre: DC || Breton || Magicka Sorcerer || DPS || Level: 20
    Ragnar the Wulf: EP || Nord || Stamina Warden || DPS || Level: 30
    Ra'Rahku: AD || Khajiit || Stamina Nightblade || DPS [Bow/Bow] || Level: 15

    Healers
    Sees-through-Hist: EP || Argonian || Magicka Warden || Healer/CC || CP 445
    Daedalus the Artificer: AD || Altmer || Magicka Templar || Healer || Level: 15
  • Aluneth
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    Raraaku wrote: »
    Your #1 is generally a Warden issue but can also affect Nightblades to a lesser extent, it generally happens when one of your spells and passives grants a healing effect or buff to another player. If it happens when no one else is around, the bear becomes the culprit as it receives your heals/buffs too and creates lingering combat. You got to constantly jump around, weapon swap, unsheathe your weapon, etc. to get it to go away... none of which I think actually works, its just timing.

    ^ This, particularly if you're using Frost Cloak with Guardian Ultimate. Have you tried trying this without having Cloak activated? I think recasting at the end of battle might also help, not sure about that thought. Luckily, overland content will not need Frost Cloak for the vast majority of content if you're a tank and you probably will not be slotting Guardian during dungeons (vet content at least). Try those option and see if they help alleviate the problem.

    I don't use Frost Cloak outside of Veteran Dungeons (have 26000 physical/spell resistance without it up).

    Main Bar (Northern Storm)

    1. Pierce Armor
    2. Heroic Slash
    3. Gripping Shards
    4. Arctic Blast
    5. Blue Betty

    Secondary Bar (Enchanted Forest)

    1. Enchanted Growth
    2. Budding Seed
    3. Frozen Retrat
    4. Expansive Frost Cloak (rarely used outside of veteran dungeons)
    5. Blue Betty

    I very rarely use the second bar in world content.
  • Vhozek
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    There's a bug in Banished Cells 2 that doesn't allow you to attack the daedra that wait for you at the door after killing the giant Daedroth. This bug has been there for over a year. I noticed it on February of last year and I started playing the month before so maybe it's been there longer.
    OVER A FREAKING YEAR
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • Raraaku
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    Hmmm, apparently the culprit might be your blue betty netch:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/376460/out-of-combat-bug-on-magicka-warden

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5KNtIchlK4g

    I hope those two links help, if you haven't seen them already
    Edited by Raraaku on May 27, 2018 11:46AM
    Back from a much needed break. || I like having too many projects and working on them all at once.

    Tank Enthusiast || CP: 445 || Stormproof

    Tanks
    Karsaak gro-Ursa: DC || Orc || Stamina Dragonknight || Tank || Level: CP 445
    Sir Leopold Stotch: DC || Breton || Magicka Templar || Tank || Level: 445
    Protects-Squishy-Ones: EP || Argonian || Magicka Sorcerer || Tank/CC || Level: CP 445
    Björn Shadow-Walker: EP || Nord || Stamina Nightblade || Tank || Level: 15
    Tiberius Valerion: AD || Imperial || Stamina Warden || Tank || Level: 15

    Damage Dealers
    Morrigan Ravyn-Cloak: AD || Altmer || Magicka Nightblade || DPS || Level: CP 445
    Ra'Zahkara: AD || Khajiit || Stamina Dragonknight || DPS || Level: CP 445
    Ezra al-Khazir: DC || Redguard || Stamina Templar || DPS || Level: 40
    Erryndril Telvaux: EP || Dunmer || Magicka Dragonknight || DPS || Level: 25
    Uzara gra-Khalari: DC || Orc || Stamina Nightblade || DPS [2H/DW] || Level: 15
    Solomon Motierre: DC || Breton || Magicka Sorcerer || DPS || Level: 20
    Ragnar the Wulf: EP || Nord || Stamina Warden || DPS || Level: 30
    Ra'Rahku: AD || Khajiit || Stamina Nightblade || DPS [Bow/Bow] || Level: 15

    Healers
    Sees-through-Hist: EP || Argonian || Magicka Warden || Healer/CC || CP 445
    Daedalus the Artificer: AD || Altmer || Magicka Templar || Healer || Level: 15
  • Aluneth
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    Raraaku wrote: »
    Hmmm, apparently the culprit might be your blue betty netch:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/376460/out-of-combat-bug-on-magicka-warden

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5KNtIchlK4g

    I hope those two links help, if you haven't seen them already

    I use the netch a lot, so that might be it. How do I solve this problem though? I use a lot of magicka on my Warden, and I need the Major Sorcery buff that I get from it. I couldn't see myself playing without it.
  • Moloch1514
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    ZOS: But look over here at this shiny new Crown Crate!
    PC-NA
  • Raraaku
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    Aluneth wrote: »
    Raraaku wrote: »
    Hmmm, apparently the culprit might be your blue betty netch:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/376460/out-of-combat-bug-on-magicka-warden

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5KNtIchlK4g

    I hope those two links help, if you haven't seen them already

    I use the netch a lot, so that might be it. How do I solve this problem though? I use a lot of magicka on my Warden, and I need the Major Sorcery buff that I get from it. I couldn't see myself playing without it.

    Not sure, I use Blue Betty all the time as well on my Healer and haven't experienced the bug, perhaps take it off for a few combat cycles and then re-slot and see if the bug resolves itself?
    Back from a much needed break. || I like having too many projects and working on them all at once.

    Tank Enthusiast || CP: 445 || Stormproof

    Tanks
    Karsaak gro-Ursa: DC || Orc || Stamina Dragonknight || Tank || Level: CP 445
    Sir Leopold Stotch: DC || Breton || Magicka Templar || Tank || Level: 445
    Protects-Squishy-Ones: EP || Argonian || Magicka Sorcerer || Tank/CC || Level: CP 445
    Björn Shadow-Walker: EP || Nord || Stamina Nightblade || Tank || Level: 15
    Tiberius Valerion: AD || Imperial || Stamina Warden || Tank || Level: 15

    Damage Dealers
    Morrigan Ravyn-Cloak: AD || Altmer || Magicka Nightblade || DPS || Level: CP 445
    Ra'Zahkara: AD || Khajiit || Stamina Dragonknight || DPS || Level: CP 445
    Ezra al-Khazir: DC || Redguard || Stamina Templar || DPS || Level: 40
    Erryndril Telvaux: EP || Dunmer || Magicka Dragonknight || DPS || Level: 25
    Uzara gra-Khalari: DC || Orc || Stamina Nightblade || DPS [2H/DW] || Level: 15
    Solomon Motierre: DC || Breton || Magicka Sorcerer || DPS || Level: 20
    Ragnar the Wulf: EP || Nord || Stamina Warden || DPS || Level: 30
    Ra'Rahku: AD || Khajiit || Stamina Nightblade || DPS [Bow/Bow] || Level: 15

    Healers
    Sees-through-Hist: EP || Argonian || Magicka Warden || Healer/CC || CP 445
    Daedalus the Artificer: AD || Altmer || Magicka Templar || Healer || Level: 15
  • TazESO
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    I love this community, they immediately jump to comments intending to help the poster work around the issue.

    To me, it’s an indictment of ZOS that we pretty quickly find ourselves having to find workarounds, and a gold stars for the community, and it’s been going on for so long it’s become second nature.

    There will always be bugs in software, but it’s time for ZOS to put more resources on fixes and better QA to prevent them from making it to production. I manage a development shop (financial services, not gaming) so I know how easy that is to say and how hard it is to do.


    Thanks OP for sharing your thoughts in a detailed constructive manner. We too absolutely love the game and just want it to be the greatest game of all time.
  • Wildberryjack
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    I came from WoW as well but I do still play it sometimes. No game is going to be bug free and it can take time for them to get to all of them. In WoW there is a Hunter bug that popped up at the beginning of Legion that is still there, for example. As for the stuck in combat bug, OMG WoW is still suffering from that. I can't count the number of times I had to run literally half way across a zone to get out of combat, even reloading didn't work. One time I F4'd the game and when I fired it back up and relogged I was STILL in combat! I've run entire raids stuck in combat. My last ICC run two days ago for that stupid invisible horse was a trial in patience as half the boss encounters glitched out. And they recently very badly scaled the old world and leveling now is a bloody nightmare as everything is overtuned.

    Here's the thing, no game is going to be bug free. Sometimes there is a reason for the 'bug', something that is causing it and you can either find a work-around or keep reporting it, with the cause if you figured it out, and they'll get to it as soon as they can. What you have to decide is which game is the most enjoyable to you despite the bugs. For me it's this one. The visuals are great, the quests are interesting, the story is interesting, the classes are fun to play. The powers at ZOS may not be perfect but they don't treat you like they'd rather you'd just go away the way they do now at blizzard. For WoW, it's all about what you can't do, what you can't have, what they're going to take away next. Here, nah, it's all about what can we give the players next.
    Edited by Wildberryjack on May 27, 2018 1:45PM
    The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso
  • jssriot
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    The in-combat bug along with other bugs affecting combat (getting rooted, bugged resource regen and not able to use quickslotted items like potions during combar) are just beyond aggravating and unacceptable.
    Vhozek wrote: »
    There's a bug in Banished Cells 2 that doesn't allow you to attack the daedra that wait for you at the door after killing the giant Daedroth. This bug has been there for over a year. I noticed it on February of last year and I started playing the month before so maybe it's been there longer.
    OVER A FREAKING YEAR

    LOL, there are bugs in the game that have been there since launch and haven't been fixed. At best they put in failsafe workaround to keep players progressing rather than actually fix the bug--and sometimes, those bug out too. The game is genuinely a mess.
    PC-NA since 2015. Tired and unimpressed.
  • BrightOblivion
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    There's a bug in Banished Cells 2 that doesn't allow you to attack the daedra that wait for you at the door after killing the giant Daedroth. This bug has been there for over a year. I noticed it on February of last year and I started playing the month before so maybe it's been there longer.
    OVER A FREAKING YEAR

    It's not just a simple bug. I'm not entirely sure of the hows behind it, but I suspect it has something to do with the door there (the one the daedra would be waiting behind) and possibly its two button opening system. It's as though there's still some sort of barrier there. And maybe that's the only way they could handle it. Maybe they wanted those enemies corralled or they did really stupid stuff when they weren't. I don't know.

    Just step to the other side of the doorway before you smash.
  • Lunerdog
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    I've had the in-combat bug on all my characters, Warden included and have been unable to interact with doors, chests, npc's etc. What sometimes works for me is opening and closing inventory, no idea why but heh, this is ESO :)
  • Aluneth
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    DjinnRa wrote: »
    I came from WoW as well but I do still play it sometimes. No game is going to be bug free and it can take time for them to get to all of them. In WoW there is a Hunter bug that popped up at the beginning of Legion that is still there, for example. As for the stuck in combat bug, OMG WoW is still suffering from that. I can't count the number of times I had to run literally half way across a zone to get out of combat, even reloading didn't work. One time I F4'd the game and when I fired it back up and relogged I was STILL in combat! I've run entire raids stuck in combat. My last ICC run two days ago for that stupid invisible horse was a trial in patience as half the boss encounters glitched out. And they recently very badly scaled the old world and leveling now is a bloody nightmare as everything is overtuned.

    Here's the thing, no game is going to be bug free. Sometimes there is a reason for the 'bug', something that is causing it and you can either find a work-around or keep reporting it, with the cause if you figured it out, and they'll get to it as soon as they can. What you have to decide is which game is the most enjoyable to you despite the bugs. For me it's this one. The visuals are great, the quests are interesting, the story is interesting, the classes are fun to play. The powers at ZOS may not be perfect but they don't treat you like they'd rather you'd just go away the way they do now at blizzard. For WoW, it's all about what you can't do, what you can't have, what they're going to take away next. Here, nah, it's all about what can we give the players next.

    Nothing in WoW has came close to what I'm noticing in ESO. Many of these (combat bug) seems to have been in the game for a long time as well.

    1. We're unable to complete certain dungeons, and when we do we don't get a reward. I also didn't mention getting feared into walls and getting stuck.

    2. Most classes in WoW has tools to get out of combat, and even without those tools, it doesn't take 20+ seconds to get out of combat, nor does it lock you out from interacting with resource nodes. It's not just that you're in combat in ESO, it's that if you're in combat, you're unable to interact or do anything outside of combat.

    3. I can't research for crafting right now, and when I do, it shows that I'm not doing it and has actually reset itself. I've somehow lost a divines light helm from my inventory, and I'm not researching it (researching 3 other items).

    While there is no doubt that other games (especially MMOs) have bugs, with the exception of early release Conan, I've never seen anything this bad. The support/developerts at WoW also tend to be quick to recognize these bugs, and they'll make hotfixes. Here in ESO it seems like we'll have to wait weeks, even months for them to put the fix into a patch. If they're even aware of it to start with.

    The quality when it comes to having a stable game, just isn't there.
    Edited by Aluneth on May 27, 2018 2:31PM
  • S1ipperyJim
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    Well it took them nearly 3 years to fix the feeding pit bug so...
  • idk
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    1. your combat glitch seems rare. I run with groups most of the time, raids, dungeons and all. I cannot recall ever having to wait 30 seconds, even 5 seconds to get out of combat to go through a door in an instance. I have had to swap weapon bars but I do not find that rare occasion to aggravating.

    2. That is an old bug. Have not experienced it in 3 years. Have you reported it?

    3. Sounds like you just do not have enough time. Random GF gives me credit the second the dungeon is cleared. Ofc turning in the pledge is quick as well.

    4.It does seem more detail is needed on this one. I guarantee a great many are successfully doing research this week with jewelry crafting released. I have had no issues researching on multiple characters.

    It does seem that the issues you are experiencing are local to you which are also odd things to happen with the exception of many #2. Certainly can understand the frustration. Have you reported any of these via bug report? This thread is great for conversation but does not serve as reporting them to Zos as bugs.
  • Yzalirk
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    1. This is not a glitch. There is a loading screen that says if you are in combat, you cannot interact with something unless you have not taken damage in a few seconds. The only time it has been a major issue, for me, is in Wayrest Sewers after defeating the Orc mini boss. It might be because players run ahead and initiate combat but I am not sure.

    2. This might portray to what I said above combined with bad luck. Next time it happens, try teleporting to a player who is past the door. It might help.

    3. Have you reported this? This is definitely an issue for sure. I had this problem too where I had to complete it a second time for the bonus XP and rewards. After a while it resolved itself.

    4. Sounds like a you problem?
  • Aluneth
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    idk wrote: »
    1. your combat glitch seems rare. I run with groups most of the time, raids, dungeons and all. I cannot recall ever having to wait 30 seconds, even 5 seconds to get out of combat to go through a door in an instance. I have had to swap weapon bars but I do not find that rare occasion to aggravating.

    2. That is an old bug. Have not experienced it in 3 years. Have you reported it?

    3. Sounds like you just do not have enough time. Random GF gives me credit the second the dungeon is cleared. Ofc turning in the pledge is quick as well.

    4.It does seem more detail is needed on this one. I guarantee a great many are successfully doing research this week with jewelry crafting released. I have had no issues researching on multiple characters.

    It does seem that the issues you are experiencing are local to you which are also odd things to happen with the exception of many #2. Certainly can understand the frustration. Have you reported any of these via bug report? This thread is great for conversation but does not serve as reporting them to Zos as bugs.

    1. The person I'm playing with doesn't have this problem, she's playing a DPS/Healer Sorcerer. I'm having this bug all of the time, and sometimes it lasts up to half a minute. I'm playing a Warden Tank/Healer.

    2. I did, it has happened to me three times since Summerset.

    3. This seems to be a bug that came with summerset. There are several threads about it, and as I mentioned, I get 'activity completed in' 2-4 different dungeons, and it still doesn't register as completing the dungeon for the random bonus reward nor experience.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414846/random-veteran-and-normal-dungeon-daily-quest-not-registering-pc-na#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414865/bg-dailies-broken#latest

    4. There are several threads on this as well, and I haven't had this happen before summerset.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/366783/no-available-research-slot#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415323/crafting-bug#latest

    I can understand #3 and #4 as they seem to be have been introduced with summerset. The #1 I've suffered from since Morrowind release, and the second one seems to be very old as well.

    They often don't respond to many of these bug reports, and if they do they'll say something like "This will be fixed on the next update for PC/MAC.". What does this mean? How long are we going wait for this update? Am I going to have to do x4 dungeons on every character before I get the reward? Many of these 'updates' don't seem to have solved the problem as can be seen with many old and still occuring bugs.

    There is a lack of communication with the playerbase, it's not quickly enough updated nor solved, and there are too many issues.
    Edited by Aluneth on May 27, 2018 3:21PM
  • Pops_ND_Irish
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    Aluneth wrote: »
    I came to ESO from a long history of MMORPGs, I started playing WoW two weeks after the release, and Guild Wars right at the release. I tried out most of the other MMO's (Conan, Lotro, Warhammer online, Star Wars, etc) when they came out, but I stuck to WoW and GW. It was first with the release of Morrowind that I tried out Elder Scrolls Online, and I was hooked. I enjoyed this game so much that I unsubscribed my WoW account, something that I hadn't done since I first started playing it. I normally play one MMO and then single player games on the side, and I've been completely taken by ESO since I started it, and it's been my go-to MMO.

    I'm very accepting when it comes to flaws in games, and some of my favorite games are far from perfect. I don't complain about graphics, I rarely complain about the story, nor do I complain about the gameplay. If a game interests me enough, I'm willing to accept these flaws (Shoutout to Arcanum). I've found one major flaw with ESO, something that normally haven't bothered me, and that is the bugs and glitches that the game suffer from.

    I don't know if I've been spoiled by mainly playing WoW and GW, but I've never ever had so much frustration with bugs, as that I've had with ESO. Now I'll give you some examples.

    1. The most frustrating glitch in the game for me right now, and the one I can't seem to avoid, is the in-combat glitch. I have to spend 30 seconds waiting before I can enter doors in dungeons, and playing as a tank that prefers to have a smooth and fast run, that is infuriating. When I'm out in the world, I'm clearing a group of mobs that are guarding a chest, I can't loot the chest after I've made sure to kill everyone, and checking that I'm 'hidden'. Before this bug goes away, someone else comes and loots the chest in front of me. This happens to me with chests, crafting nodes, and everything else that I can possible interact with. My friend who I quest with has to wait around 20 seconds for me to be able to talk to interact with a quest giver.

    2. I've been unable to complete wayrest sewers II on one of my characters, as the first door won't open. I've read up on it and it seems the NPC gets stuck and can't interact with the NPCs at the door. This hasn't happened only once to me, this has happened several times on different characters.

    3. I have had to give up on the daily dungeon reward a few days now, because I have limited time on certain days, and I don't have the time to complete 2-4 dungeons on every character, for it to register that I've completed my daily dungeon.

    4. I've been unable to research the last couple of days, and it's very frustrating.

    Now I do understand that #3 and #4 seems to have came with summerset, and when you release something that major, it tends to make the game a bit unstable for a couple of weeks. My problem is that there are already what I consider game breaking bugs(defined as in a bug that makes me not want to play the game), as can be seen in #1, and that it doesn't seem like the developers are in contact with the playerbase when it concerns these problems. I play games to enjoy the experience, and when that enjoyment gets replaced by frustration, then I'm not going to play that game.

    TLDR : I find ESO amazing, and I cancelled my subscription to WoW (had been subscribed since the start) when I took up ESO after the Morrowind release. The bugs and glitches are starting to cause more frustration, than I get pleasure out of playing this game. There seems to be a lack of contact between the developers and the playerbase when it comes to these problems. They either don't get solved, or it takes too long.





    Seems like this is a template for the old stuff. I do dailies everyday. Complete them and do other stuff. Dont even to have a problem
  • Sergykid
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    ur problems i encounter them rarely. I could say that it's 3% problem in the game. Really for all the reasons i would leave the game, these yours are between the last.
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  • VexingArcanist
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    Your #1 is generally a Warden issue but can also affect Nightblades to a lesser extent, it generally happens when one of your spells and passives grants a healing effect or buff to another player. If it happens when no one else is around, the bear becomes the culprit as it receives your heals/buffs too and creates lingering combat. You got to constantly jump around, weapon swap, unsheathe your weapon, etc. to get it to go away... none of which I think actually works, its just timing.

    No. Your analysis is wrong.

    No one around, no pet, bug still happens. I do not think I have noticed it since Summerset, but generally I am only using one of my wardens in PvP so i can't say if anything has been done to address this irritating and long standing bug.
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    I have to admit #1 is driving me insane as it's only on my warden. Sometimes even while inside of a building in a town I have issues getting back out the door and interacting with npcs or anything else.
  • Aluneth
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    Sergykid wrote: »
    ur problems i encounter them rarely. I could say that it's 3% problem in the game. Really for all the reasons i would leave the game, these yours are between the last.

    1. I'm unable to complete the daily dungeon on characters, because I don't have the time to complete 2-4 dungeons on them. I used to complete five dungeons a day, now I have to complete between 12 and 20 dungeons instead, depending on my luck.

    2. I am getting my nodes and chests constantly sniped from me after I clear them from enemies, because I can't interact with them for up to 30 seconds.

    3. I have to wait 15-30 seconds at most doors in dungeons that lead to new areas. I play a tank, and this is infuriating. I can't even take part in a Wayrest Sewers boss, because they jump down and start the encounter while I'm still stuck on the other side.

    4. I'm getting behind on research, because I can't seem to be able to research, and if I somehow manage to do it, it's after half an hour of tweaking. This is on every character that I have.

    I spend more time, doing the same thing as I did before, and I'm gaining less.
  • idk
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    Aluneth wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    1. your combat glitch seems rare. I run with groups most of the time, raids, dungeons and all. I cannot recall ever having to wait 30 seconds, even 5 seconds to get out of combat to go through a door in an instance. I have had to swap weapon bars but I do not find that rare occasion to aggravating.

    2. That is an old bug. Have not experienced it in 3 years. Have you reported it?

    3. Sounds like you just do not have enough time. Random GF gives me credit the second the dungeon is cleared. Ofc turning in the pledge is quick as well.

    4.It does seem more detail is needed on this one. I guarantee a great many are successfully doing research this week with jewelry crafting released. I have had no issues researching on multiple characters.

    It does seem that the issues you are experiencing are local to you which are also odd things to happen with the exception of many #2. Certainly can understand the frustration. Have you reported any of these via bug report? This thread is great for conversation but does not serve as reporting them to Zos as bugs.

    1. The person I'm playing with doesn't have this problem, she's playing a DPS/Healer Sorcerer. I'm having this bug all of the time, and sometimes it lasts up to half a minute. I'm playing a Warden Tank/Healer.

    2. I did, it has happened to me three times since Summerset.

    3. This seems to be a bug that came with summerset. There are several threads about it, and as I mentioned, I get 'activity completed in' 2-4 different dungeons, and it still doesn't register as completing the dungeon for the random bonus reward nor experience.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414846/random-veteran-and-normal-dungeon-daily-quest-not-registering-pc-na#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414865/bg-dailies-broken#latest

    4. There are several threads on this as well, and I haven't had this happen before summerset.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/366783/no-available-research-slot#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415323/crafting-bug#latest

    I can understand #3 and #4 as they seem to be have been introduced with summerset. The #1 I've suffered from since Morrowind release, and the second one seems to be very old as well.

    They often don't respond to many of these bug reports, and if they do they'll say something like "This will be fixed on the next update for PC/MAC.". What does this mean? How long are we going wait for this update? Am I going to have to do x4 dungeons on every character before I get the reward? Many of these 'updates' don't seem to have solved the problem as can be seen with many old and still occuring bugs.

    There is a lack of communication with the playerbase, it's not quickly enough updated nor solved, and there are too many issues.

    Zos has responded to each and every bug report I have filed. Of course that response is that they have passed it on to the devs since a bug is not something they can help you with directly, but they respond.

    Unless you are meaning a thread like this is a bug report, which it is not. Bug reports are filed in game in case that is not clear.

    You can also find more information on what has their attention in the dev tracker but that can take some time to sort through.

    In the event there is something here that Zos can help you with directly I will tag @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
  • Aluneth
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    idk wrote: »
    Aluneth wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    1. your combat glitch seems rare. I run with groups most of the time, raids, dungeons and all. I cannot recall ever having to wait 30 seconds, even 5 seconds to get out of combat to go through a door in an instance. I have had to swap weapon bars but I do not find that rare occasion to aggravating.

    2. That is an old bug. Have not experienced it in 3 years. Have you reported it?

    3. Sounds like you just do not have enough time. Random GF gives me credit the second the dungeon is cleared. Ofc turning in the pledge is quick as well.

    4.It does seem more detail is needed on this one. I guarantee a great many are successfully doing research this week with jewelry crafting released. I have had no issues researching on multiple characters.

    It does seem that the issues you are experiencing are local to you which are also odd things to happen with the exception of many #2. Certainly can understand the frustration. Have you reported any of these via bug report? This thread is great for conversation but does not serve as reporting them to Zos as bugs.

    1. The person I'm playing with doesn't have this problem, she's playing a DPS/Healer Sorcerer. I'm having this bug all of the time, and sometimes it lasts up to half a minute. I'm playing a Warden Tank/Healer.

    2. I did, it has happened to me three times since Summerset.

    3. This seems to be a bug that came with summerset. There are several threads about it, and as I mentioned, I get 'activity completed in' 2-4 different dungeons, and it still doesn't register as completing the dungeon for the random bonus reward nor experience.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414846/random-veteran-and-normal-dungeon-daily-quest-not-registering-pc-na#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414865/bg-dailies-broken#latest

    4. There are several threads on this as well, and I haven't had this happen before summerset.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/366783/no-available-research-slot#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415323/crafting-bug#latest

    I can understand #3 and #4 as they seem to be have been introduced with summerset. The #1 I've suffered from since Morrowind release, and the second one seems to be very old as well.

    They often don't respond to many of these bug reports, and if they do they'll say something like "This will be fixed on the next update for PC/MAC.". What does this mean? How long are we going wait for this update? Am I going to have to do x4 dungeons on every character before I get the reward? Many of these 'updates' don't seem to have solved the problem as can be seen with many old and still occuring bugs.

    There is a lack of communication with the playerbase, it's not quickly enough updated nor solved, and there are too many issues.

    Zos has responded to each and every bug report I have filed. Of course that response is that they have passed it on to the devs since a bug is not something they can help you with directly, but they respond.

    Unless you are meaning a thread like this is a bug report, which it is not. Bug reports are filed in game in case that is not clear.

    You can also find more information on what has their attention in the dev tracker but that can take some time to sort through.

    In the event there is something here that Zos can help you with directly I will tag @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    It's in General because it's not just one singular bug, it's the state of the game. I am struggling with so many issues that don't work properly in the game, that it's reaching a point where I get more frustrated with the game, than enjoy playing it. It's an amazing game in many areas, but it's still a game, and if I don't get enjoyment from it, then I'm concidering not playing it.

    If they spend a fifth of the time that they spend on the Crown Store, fixing the stability of the game, this wouldn't be an issue.
    Edited by Aluneth on May 27, 2018 3:44PM
  • idk
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    Aluneth wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    Aluneth wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    1. your combat glitch seems rare. I run with groups most of the time, raids, dungeons and all. I cannot recall ever having to wait 30 seconds, even 5 seconds to get out of combat to go through a door in an instance. I have had to swap weapon bars but I do not find that rare occasion to aggravating.

    2. That is an old bug. Have not experienced it in 3 years. Have you reported it?

    3. Sounds like you just do not have enough time. Random GF gives me credit the second the dungeon is cleared. Ofc turning in the pledge is quick as well.

    4.It does seem more detail is needed on this one. I guarantee a great many are successfully doing research this week with jewelry crafting released. I have had no issues researching on multiple characters.

    It does seem that the issues you are experiencing are local to you which are also odd things to happen with the exception of many #2. Certainly can understand the frustration. Have you reported any of these via bug report? This thread is great for conversation but does not serve as reporting them to Zos as bugs.

    1. The person I'm playing with doesn't have this problem, she's playing a DPS/Healer Sorcerer. I'm having this bug all of the time, and sometimes it lasts up to half a minute. I'm playing a Warden Tank/Healer.

    2. I did, it has happened to me three times since Summerset.

    3. This seems to be a bug that came with summerset. There are several threads about it, and as I mentioned, I get 'activity completed in' 2-4 different dungeons, and it still doesn't register as completing the dungeon for the random bonus reward nor experience.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414846/random-veteran-and-normal-dungeon-daily-quest-not-registering-pc-na#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414865/bg-dailies-broken#latest

    4. There are several threads on this as well, and I haven't had this happen before summerset.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/366783/no-available-research-slot#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415323/crafting-bug#latest

    I can understand #3 and #4 as they seem to be have been introduced with summerset. The #1 I've suffered from since Morrowind release, and the second one seems to be very old as well.

    They often don't respond to many of these bug reports, and if they do they'll say something like "This will be fixed on the next update for PC/MAC.". What does this mean? How long are we going wait for this update? Am I going to have to do x4 dungeons on every character before I get the reward? Many of these 'updates' don't seem to have solved the problem as can be seen with many old and still occuring bugs.

    There is a lack of communication with the playerbase, it's not quickly enough updated nor solved, and there are too many issues.

    Zos has responded to each and every bug report I have filed. Of course that response is that they have passed it on to the devs since a bug is not something they can help you with directly, but they respond.

    Unless you are meaning a thread like this is a bug report, which it is not. Bug reports are filed in game in case that is not clear.

    You can also find more information on what has their attention in the dev tracker but that can take some time to sort through.

    In the event there is something here that Zos can help you with directly I will tag @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    It's in General because it's not just one singular bug, it's the state of the game. I am struggling with so many issues that don't work properly in the game, that it's reaching a point where I get more frustrated with the game, than enjoy playing it. It's an amazing game in many areas, but it's still a game, and if I don't get enjoyment from it, then I'm concidering not playing it.

    Yes, I understand you are frustrated and this thread is just venting that. I asked if you actually submitted bug reports. If the people I tagged are able to help you they will likely ask for the ticket numbers.
  • Rudal
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    @Aluneth just like you I played and/or tried almost every MMO that came out in last 10-12 years but got really stuck with WoW and AoC up until release of The Elder Scrolls Online. I even stopped playing WoW for couple of years just to play TESO.
    Trust me, this game is now prefect compared to what it was in first year after release.
    - And is your heart black and full of hate? - Black as midnight, black as pitch, blacker than the foulest witch... -
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