Multi-core Performance Update, Improvement or Deterioration?

  • damdamjel
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    ajm1946 wrote: »
    Have tried to check my Game Mode setting playing ESO but WIN + G does not bring up game mode bar. Latest Windows 10 update has removed the ability to apply game mode setting in Settings it is now has to be done in each individual game. How do I access the game bar mode in ESO

    you're right, I cant access it too via win+G. It would be nice if someone here could show us how to disable this.
  • Eyran
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    Just want to add a little to this topic as well. Overall performance does indeed seem to be better. But the random stutters and hitching in city (and places with many players) doesn't really help. I hope they will adress these issues soon.
  • MakoFore
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    and here I came expecting a few psijic skill line jokes-guess its too easy..

    on my Macbook pro- much much worse - in every way.
    on my PC desktop- slightly better peak performance- better fps, ping, etc- but less stable.- more disconnects
    Edited by MakoFore on May 24, 2018 9:20AM
  • Zymcio
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    Hello

    i am still tweaking ini.settings

    my CPU is i7-7700HQ (4 cores / 8 Threads) but I turned off HT and turbo boost then in reality i got:

    4 cores / 4 threads with Processor Frequency 2.80 GHz


    SET MaxCoresToUse.4 "-1" / IF i leave that -1 is the same like 4 ?


    SET RequestedNumJobThreads "-1"
    SET RequestedNumWorkerThreads "-1"

    ^ i dont know how this settings works with 0 it will not use threads ? i cant image why turing this could help... Maybe someone will explain.

    SET GPUSmoothingFrames "10" / i dont know if this change anything for me cuz my monitor is 120 Hz but in game i hardcaped to 60 Hz

    When i was testing i set hardcap for fps like 500 and in open world i got maximum 130 fps but in city like 55.

    In open world gpu usage was 99-100% that means i cant go more / for me ok.
    In city it is funny cuz gpu usage is like 60% and cpu is 70% / but i thinking in city my cpu just sucks (have no clue bottelneck is when cpu or gpu is at 100% ?)

  • DuskMarine
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    Thanks everyone for the information! The stutter many of you are experiencing now is new with this patch. With the info and videos you have supplied, we've been able to track down the sources of these and are currently working on fixes that we'll get out as soon as possible. We've also discovered that if you have Game Mode turned on (Windows 10 users), it can significantly negatively impact the performance of the game with the Summerset patch, so it's worth double-checking if you have that enabled.

    Additionally, when customer support recommends disabling your addons to help with framerate issues, that's not a blind recommendation. In practice through performance analysis, we've seen a large number of popular addons that can impact framerate. Some are a constant impact, averaging 2-4ms of CPU processing time per frame, but we've seen as high as 8-10ms. Some affect it during combat, and some decrease framerate over time until you reload your UI or your client completely. Addons are not multithreaded, and their impact stacks cumulatively. This is why we recommend disabling them when you have performance issues, though we understand many prefer to make the utility vs performance trade-off.

    We may also recommend that you delete (or change the name of) your UserSettings file and let the game generate a new for you, and this can genuinely be helpful. Sometimes that file can find ways to get in a bad state after a patch. We also often see people making modifications to that file and then recommending those same modifications to other people. While well-intended, this can often lead to problems because no two people are likely to have the same PC hardware, so if you have modified your UserSettings file, we definitely recommend letting the game make a new one for you. We only recommend changing those settings if you have a solid understanding of how it will impact your machine.

    If you've done all of that, and you're still not seeing any improvements, it may well be that your CPU is not your limiting factor with ESO, either because you have an older graphics card, or because your graphics settings are high enough that the GPU time becomes the bigger factor. You can try changing those settings and see how it looks and feels for you. Shadow Quality and Reflection Quality tend to be the heaviest factors. It may also be that your particular hardware combination doesn't see as many improvements as others because these changes won't affect everyone uniformly (as evidenced by the wide range of reports about the changes).

    We're still working on performance improvements in a variety of areas of the game, in the meantime we appreciate all this feedback and information. And thank you all for your patience while we work to resolve these hitches/micro-freezes.

    heres the thing my pc was newly upgraded just because of summerset you guys have major issues on yalls end with this game stop blameing the users stuff and take a look at your servers stability and code. also figure out how to split latency and our frame rate(cause yes i have tested it in my house i roll 100 fps with no one around sitting at a smooth 75 latency, second i enter a populated area my latency skyrockets at times promptly killing my framerate in houses its fine but the actual zone areas are horrid)
  • Tonnopesce
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    In the psijic island every time i go from the tower to the wayshrine i have a huge drop with the game freezing for 2-3 seconds, but on all the other zone I'm at 100+ fps from 80-90 average before patch, still i have to go in cyro...
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  • Tonnopesce
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    xeNNNNN wrote: »
    4790k CPU here (stock clock)

    Generally 20 FPS increase on top of 60 SOMETIMES (it appears to be spaced out and random).
    Overworld is roughly 80fps on half high and low settings as well with addition friendly effects turned off and only 75% view distance.
    Dungeons around 90 FPS - 100 FPS (Note: This has always been the case for the most part)

    My overall performance is actually worse however. I am frame skipping a lot now and my CPU has jumped in temperature by 15 degrees. Pushing me into the 70 Degree area which is absurd. My overall CPU temps were at 55-59 degrees before the patch now its pushing my CPU into uncomfortable territory and the reason I suggest is its uncomfortable is because on other high end games on max settings my CPU never reaches these temps. Not BF1, Not PubG, Not any other MMO and not any other Game generally.

    This means that something is now putting an unnecessary amount of stress on my CPU prior too the patch and I say its unnecessary because my performance was much better pre-summerset.

    I made a post in tech support in hopes of a real response from somebody at ZoS as this is by no way shape or form an improvement from my perspective; causing my CPU to run 15 degrees hotter for 15 maybe 20 more FPS is by no way shame or form a reasonable trade.

    I am concerned about rapid growing temps from games because I cannot "afford" to feel comfortable with 70 degrees especially since its not a new CPU and I do not have the money to replace it should I need to and I assure you that by no means is this a general issue with the processor this is infact an issue ONLY with ESO and no other game or program, infact my preformance in my other games is still normal and fine so if it was on my end why would it only happen in ESO if it wasn't the "change" they made.

    Again though my larger point is here that this "performance increase" its not a performance increase for my 4790k and in fact its proving to be worse than before. At this point ive even tried too underclock my CPU too temporarily fix this issue and it hasn't helped.

    My bet would be that SOMEONE did not do clean edits on textures and other systems loading into the game and thus the game is demanding that the processor calculate alot of junk data and unclean edits to textures and such at far too much of a rate through the hyperthreads, hyperthreads are there too help the cores of any CPU work together better too load information and data, its not a god damned filtration system. This is likely why im seeing my temps rise more than they should and the game is stuttering, processing is being clogged and straining the cores.

    70 degree is not a bad temperature...
    Every game push my cpu (i5 7600k with a moderate 4.6 overclock) in the 60-65 range but is due to the water-loop shared with the gpu.
    80-90 is bad but 70...
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  • Vahrokh
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    I have purchased a massive assembled computer exclusively for Summerset: i7-8700K turbo 6 cores / 12 threads , 32 GB DDR (Kingston), ASUS mobo, nVidia 1080, SSD hard disks.

    I don't think it's possibile to ask much more from a player.

    Even with all of that, vMOL still sucks. Even with all of that, even turning down graphics quality, FPS is not rock solid. If I turn off vSync it runs 140 FPS but I can go in some places and it drops to 20....
    Edited by Vahrokh on May 24, 2018 10:51AM
  • Cinbri
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    So, I did deleted UserSettings and after logging back on highest video settings I got 100fps in Summerset, while previously I could only dream to get at least 60fps in eso at all, so it helped me a lot. But when I told friends to do same - their fps sugnificantly droped, and they had to restore old settings. So, it veery messy thing.
    Edited by Cinbri on May 24, 2018 1:29PM
  • NewbieOKS
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    So, I did deleted UserSettings and after logging back on highest video settings I got 100fps in Summerset, while previously I could only dream to get at least 60fps in eso at all, so it helped me a lot. But when I told friends to do same - their fps sugnificantly droped, and they had to restore old settings. So, it veery messy thing.

    So better delete or leave it as it is? I mean I read on reddit, we just change the settings notes? Set max corrs, requested number job threads and worker threads?
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  • xeNNNNN
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    Tonnopesce wrote: »
    xeNNNNN wrote: »
    4790k CPU here (stock clock)

    Generally 20 FPS increase on top of 60 SOMETIMES (it appears to be spaced out and random).
    Overworld is roughly 80fps on half high and low settings as well with addition friendly effects turned off and only 75% view distance.
    Dungeons around 90 FPS - 100 FPS (Note: This has always been the case for the most part)

    My overall performance is actually worse however. I am frame skipping a lot now and my CPU has jumped in temperature by 15 degrees. Pushing me into the 70 Degree area which is absurd. My overall CPU temps were at 55-59 degrees before the patch now its pushing my CPU into uncomfortable territory and the reason I suggest is its uncomfortable is because on other high end games on max settings my CPU never reaches these temps. Not BF1, Not PubG, Not any other MMO and not any other Game generally.

    This means that something is now putting an unnecessary amount of stress on my CPU prior too the patch and I say its unnecessary because my performance was much better pre-summerset.

    I made a post in tech support in hopes of a real response from somebody at ZoS as this is by no way shape or form an improvement from my perspective; causing my CPU to run 15 degrees hotter for 15 maybe 20 more FPS is by no way shame or form a reasonable trade.

    I am concerned about rapid growing temps from games because I cannot "afford" to feel comfortable with 70 degrees especially since its not a new CPU and I do not have the money to replace it should I need to and I assure you that by no means is this a general issue with the processor this is infact an issue ONLY with ESO and no other game or program, infact my preformance in my other games is still normal and fine so if it was on my end why would it only happen in ESO if it wasn't the "change" they made.

    Again though my larger point is here that this "performance increase" its not a performance increase for my 4790k and in fact its proving to be worse than before. At this point ive even tried too underclock my CPU too temporarily fix this issue and it hasn't helped.

    My bet would be that SOMEONE did not do clean edits on textures and other systems loading into the game and thus the game is demanding that the processor calculate alot of junk data and unclean edits to textures and such at far too much of a rate through the hyperthreads, hyperthreads are there too help the cores of any CPU work together better too load information and data, its not a god damned filtration system. This is likely why im seeing my temps rise more than they should and the game is stuttering, processing is being clogged and straining the cores.

    70 degree is not a bad temperature...
    Every game push my cpu (i5 7600k with a moderate 4.6 overclock) in the 60-65 range but is due to the water-loop shared with the gpu.
    80-90 is bad but 70...

    I did point that out did I not?

    My point was that it was an unnesassary increase purely for the introduction of multi core hyperthreading support. Considering it was below 60 before the patch went live.

    My CPU is already 2-3 years old and so its life span is uncertain as i dont have liquid cooling only fan cooling off a 212 evo and I dont have the money too replace the CPU. The longer a CPU stays at high temperatures the shorter the life span of that CPU gets, now if it was brand new this wouldn't concern me nearly as much but yeah.

    This is also considering that no other AAA game breaches 65 max and in comparison visually and graphically ESO is inferior by far.

    It should not be exceeding 65 at all. But it is. Note that nobody had any issues until AFTER the patch.
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    NewbieOKS wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    So, I did deleted UserSettings and after logging back on highest video settings I got 100fps in Summerset, while previously I could only dream to get at least 60fps in eso at all, so it helped me a lot. But when I told friends to do same - their fps sugnificantly droped, and they had to restore old settings. So, it veery messy thing.

    So better delete or leave it as it is? I mean I read on reddit, we just change the settings notes? Set max corrs, requested number job threads and worker threads?

    Rename the settings folder then see how it goes. If worse then roll back to the old by deleting the new folder and restore the name on the old.
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  • Octopuss
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    No improvement at all with fresh usersettings over here.
  • profundidob16_ESO
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    Vahrokh wrote: »
    I have purchased a massive assembled computer exclusively for Summerset: i7-8700K turbo 6 cores / 12 threads , 32 GB DDR (Kingston), ASUS mobo, nVidia 1080, SSD hard disks.

    I don't think it's possibile to ask much more from a player.

    Even with all of that, vMOL still sucks. Even with all of that, even turning down graphics quality, FPS is not rock solid. If I turn off vSync it runs 140 FPS but I can go in some places and it drops to 20....

    pleeeeease tell me you asked the custom PC assemblers that build your computer to at least put a simple cheap AIO cooler on the CPU and that you run it OC'd @ 5GHz now ?? If not you just are massively wasting fps and potential here....ask them to do it still now in case you didn't

    also, make sure you set view distance to 60-70 and water reflection to "low". You should be fine then in raids. Besides that there is an a software problem in this patch that causes the 'unusual' drops. that should be solved soon
  • profundidob16_ESO
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    NewbieOKS wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    So, I did deleted UserSettings and after logging back on highest video settings I got 100fps in Summerset, while previously I could only dream to get at least 60fps in eso at all, so it helped me a lot. But when I told friends to do same - their fps sugnificantly droped, and they had to restore old settings. So, it veery messy thing.

    So better delete or leave it as it is? I mean I read on reddit, we just change the settings notes? Set max corrs, requested number job threads and worker threads?

    close the game and updater completely. do not DELETE but rather RENAME the existing settings file by adding OLD in the name. Then start the game and it will recreate a default one which you then can go compare at any time and make tailored changes based on the differences you notice
    Edited by profundidob16_ESO on May 24, 2018 3:19PM
  • profundidob16_ESO
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    So, I did deleted UserSettings and after logging back on highest video settings I got 100fps in Summerset, while previously I could only dream to get at least 60fps in eso at all, so it helped me a lot. But when I told friends to do same - their fps sugnificantly droped, and they had to restore old settings. So, it veery messy thing.

    deleting the existing file causes recreating it by the game itself using it's newest (current) default settings which typically increases the number of cores used. Depending on which cpu you have, this can be a good thing or a bad thing.

    If you had a mediocre pc with more cores that clock low, using more cores now would give you much better performance. For your friend with a cpu that clocks higher it might be the exact opposite because now everything's split more threads that have to wait for eachother rather than coexist with the same core or same thread even
  • Kraezy
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    Whilst my issues may have been somewhat isolated I'll post my experience thus far...

    Would usually run 50-60 fps in crowded areas, 130-144 FPS in the open areas, with the odd drop.

    After patch.
    Had massive stuttering and hitching and drops down to 15-22 FPS. 2-3 sec Freezes.

    Deleted my usersettings / turned off Game Mode via game bar (WIN + G). Started the game and let it repopulate the usersettings file. The only modification I made to the new file was to change the FPS cap from 100 to 144, haven't touched any of the other 'usual' modifications that peeps recommend.

    Significant improvement - between 100-144 FPS even at Wayrest Undaunted Enclave with a mass of people.

    Monitored performance with ProcessLasso - could see all cores were being used. Though performance degraded over time, hitching and a bit of stuttering.. so checked ProcessLasso and found it to be my Logitech Gaming Software having a memory leak with latest windows update. Installed latest version of LGS and memory usage caps at 50mb rather than the 6gb it was using at the time I noticed lol. Game is butter smooth even with my mid specs, although of course I prefer performance over aesthetics.

    Addons: Only using the below two as they're currently indate
    - LUI Extended
    - Potion Maker

    Full Screen 1920 x 1080
    AA: Off
    Textures: High
    Subsampling: High
    Shadows: Medium
    Water reflection: Off
    Particles Systems: 768
    Particle Surpression: 35
    View distance: 30
    Ambient Oc: ON
    Rest are off.

    i7 4770k (oc 4.0ghz)
    16g DDR3 1600mhz
    GTX 980 4gb
    Installed on SSD.

    GPU / CPU Temps : 55-60 respectively
    Load: 40% CPU / 50% GPU
    (though GPU is now capped at OC frequency 1368mhz, previously it would dip to 1160 which I figured were the causes of pre-patch dips)

    I also follow this guide on every new O.S install
    https://redacted.tv/2017/12/20/win10guide/
    Cuts all the bloatness and cr4p out of the O.S and basically strips the O.S down to a gaming machine only.
    Edited by Kraezy on May 24, 2018 3:43PM
  • profundidob16_ESO
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    xeNNNNN wrote: »
    Tonnopesce wrote: »
    xeNNNNN wrote: »
    4790k CPU here (stock clock)

    Generally 20 FPS increase on top of 60 SOMETIMES (it appears to be spaced out and random).
    Overworld is roughly 80fps on half high and low settings as well with addition friendly effects turned off and only 75% view distance.
    Dungeons around 90 FPS - 100 FPS (Note: This has always been the case for the most part)

    My overall performance is actually worse however. I am frame skipping a lot now and my CPU has jumped in temperature by 15 degrees. Pushing me into the 70 Degree area which is absurd. My overall CPU temps were at 55-59 degrees before the patch now its pushing my CPU into uncomfortable territory and the reason I suggest is its uncomfortable is because on other high end games on max settings my CPU never reaches these temps. Not BF1, Not PubG, Not any other MMO and not any other Game generally.

    This means that something is now putting an unnecessary amount of stress on my CPU prior too the patch and I say its unnecessary because my performance was much better pre-summerset.

    I made a post in tech support in hopes of a real response from somebody at ZoS as this is by no way shape or form an improvement from my perspective; causing my CPU to run 15 degrees hotter for 15 maybe 20 more FPS is by no way shame or form a reasonable trade.

    I am concerned about rapid growing temps from games because I cannot "afford" to feel comfortable with 70 degrees especially since its not a new CPU and I do not have the money to replace it should I need to and I assure you that by no means is this a general issue with the processor this is infact an issue ONLY with ESO and no other game or program, infact my preformance in my other games is still normal and fine so if it was on my end why would it only happen in ESO if it wasn't the "change" they made.

    Again though my larger point is here that this "performance increase" its not a performance increase for my 4790k and in fact its proving to be worse than before. At this point ive even tried too underclock my CPU too temporarily fix this issue and it hasn't helped.

    My bet would be that SOMEONE did not do clean edits on textures and other systems loading into the game and thus the game is demanding that the processor calculate alot of junk data and unclean edits to textures and such at far too much of a rate through the hyperthreads, hyperthreads are there too help the cores of any CPU work together better too load information and data, its not a god damned filtration system. This is likely why im seeing my temps rise more than they should and the game is stuttering, processing is being clogged and straining the cores.

    70 degree is not a bad temperature...
    Every game push my cpu (i5 7600k with a moderate 4.6 overclock) in the 60-65 range but is due to the water-loop shared with the gpu.
    80-90 is bad but 70...

    I did point that out did I not?

    My point was that it was an unnesassary increase purely for the introduction of multi core hyperthreading support. Considering it was below 60 before the patch went live.

    My CPU is already 2-3 years old and so its life span is uncertain as i dont have liquid cooling only fan cooling off a 212 evo and I dont have the money too replace the CPU. The longer a CPU stays at high temperatures the shorter the life span of that CPU gets, now if it was brand new this wouldn't concern me nearly as much but yeah.

    This is also considering that no other AAA game breaches 65 max and in comparison visually and graphically ESO is inferior by far.

    It should not be exceeding 65 at all. But it is. Note that nobody had any issues until AFTER the patch.

    I have to jump in here. I understand your statement that the latest patch causes your cpu to work more now and cause more heat in doing so, which should by the way be a good thing since it will yield you more fps and performance in the end once the devs iron out the kinks, even though at this point you might even experience it as a status quo or even performance loss.

    BUT you can not blame ZOS devs for making your cpu temps uneasy. Period. If your custom machine was built properly by someone with the necessary expertise it will adhere to the general rules that under an extreme torture test with max stresstest programs like e.g PI 95 for a continued stress duration time of 1-24 hours your CPU temp will not raise above the max threshold of 80-90°C (depending on what baseline the vendor uses) ever, like EVER ! That also means that whatever game you play will always stay well below that even during peaks.

    also your cpu lifespan will not be affected at all by the current raise you see. Crazy OC voltages would do that, not an increase of 15° that is still with the very safe 60°C zone. That simply not how it works.

    In other words sorry but you have nothing to worry nor complaint about and 60-70°C temps are a joke. Be happy
  • AlienatedGoat
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    It's stupid at this point. I get over 100 FPS nearly everywhere, but it randomly drops to nothing and slideshows all over the place. Isn't even in a busy place either. I've also randomly started having crashes but only in Deshaan.
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  • ajm1946
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    @ZOS_Alex Have tried to check my Game Mode setting playing ESO but WIN + G does not bring up game mode bar. Latest Windows 10 update has removed the ability to apply game mode setting in Settings it is now has to be done in each individual game. How do I access the game bar mode in ESO

  • damdamjel
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    Im starting to think that their modified game engine for eso really needs an major overhaul update
  • Own
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    Thanks everyone for the information! The stutter many of you are experiencing now is new with this patch. With the info and videos you have supplied, we've been able to track down the sources of these and are currently working on fixes that we'll get out as soon as possible. We've also discovered that if you have Game Mode turned on (Windows 10 users), it can significantly negatively impact the performance of the game with the Summerset patch, so it's worth double-checking if you have that enabled.

    Additionally, when customer support recommends disabling your addons to help with framerate issues, that's not a blind recommendation. In practice through performance analysis, we've seen a large number of popular addons that can impact framerate. Some are a constant impact, averaging 2-4ms of CPU processing time per frame, but we've seen as high as 8-10ms. Some affect it during combat, and some decrease framerate over time until you reload your UI or your client completely. Addons are not multithreaded, and their impact stacks cumulatively. This is why we recommend disabling them when you have performance issues, though we understand many prefer to make the utility vs performance trade-off.

    We may also recommend that you delete (or change the name of) your UserSettings file and let the game generate a new for you, and this can genuinely be helpful. Sometimes that file can find ways to get in a bad state after a patch. We also often see people making modifications to that file and then recommending those same modifications to other people. While well-intended, this can often lead to problems because no two people are likely to have the same PC hardware, so if you have modified your UserSettings file, we definitely recommend letting the game make a new one for you. We only recommend changing those settings if you have a solid understanding of how it will impact your machine.

    If you've done all of that, and you're still not seeing any improvements, it may well be that your CPU is not your limiting factor with ESO, either because you have an older graphics card, or because your graphics settings are high enough that the GPU time becomes the bigger factor. You can try changing those settings and see how it looks and feels for you. Shadow Quality and Reflection Quality tend to be the heaviest factors. It may also be that your particular hardware combination doesn't see as many improvements as others because these changes won't affect everyone uniformly (as evidenced by the wide range of reports about the changes).

    We're still working on performance improvements in a variety of areas of the game, in the meantime we appreciate all this feedback and information. And thank you all for your patience while we work to resolve these hitches/micro-freezes.

    I know that addons are completely outside the responsibility of ZOS but since some of them provide essential functionality that is missing in the base game it would be nice if you could detail your findings of delays caused by popular addons. It would help us to decide better between fps and functionality

    How about a minimap? 20 year old games have it built in lol. And maybe being able to right click and remove useless buffs on the stock buff tracker while having them stationary when other buffs drop off. The amount of clutter and siezure inducing buffs constantly moving left and right. Hard to focus lol. Maybe that's just me though.

    A display of sieged keeps, like Cyrhud, would be good. It would keep new players who don't mouse over keeps moving when siege pops up.

    I cut my addons down because of @ZOS_AlexTardif
    I didn't know they were causing delay. Thanks.
  • ajm1946
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    @ZOS_AlexTardif Have tried to check my Game Mode setting playing ESO but WIN + G does not bring up game mode bar. Latest Windows 10 update has removed the ability to apply game mode setting in Settings it is now has to be done in each individual game. How do I access the game bar mode in ESO

    Edited by ajm1946 on May 24, 2018 7:48PM
  • Cendrillion21
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    Random stutter here too like so many of us. Have not had that since the first year of the game and I did not miss it. Hope things smooth out soon.
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  • Thogard
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    What is game mode? I have windows 10 and consider myself to be fairly computer literate...

    I have no clue what game mode is though.
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    Thogard wrote: »
    What is game mode? I have windows 10 and consider myself to be fairly computer literate...

    I have no clue what game mode is though.

    if running win10
    go to settings -> games -> and deactivate everything
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  • ordraveeb17_ESO
    damdamjel wrote: »
    ajm1946 wrote: »
    Have tried to check my Game Mode setting playing ESO but WIN + G does not bring up game mode bar. Latest Windows 10 update has removed the ability to apply game mode setting in Settings it is now has to be done in each individual game. How do I access the game bar mode in ESO

    you're right, I cant access it too via win+G. It would be nice if someone here could show us how to disable this.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/75936-turn-off-game-mode-windows-10-a.html
    select "option two", working )))
    Edited by ordraveeb17_ESO on May 24, 2018 8:32PM
  • Thrasher91604
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    Pretty awful for me. Also a lot of random stutter. A couple crashes. Super slow to no skill triggered during combat. Nearly impossible to weave now.
    Edited by Thrasher91604 on May 24, 2018 10:18PM
  • MLGProPlayer
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    damdamjel wrote: »
    ajm1946 wrote: »
    Have tried to check my Game Mode setting playing ESO but WIN + G does not bring up game mode bar. Latest Windows 10 update has removed the ability to apply game mode setting in Settings it is now has to be done in each individual game. How do I access the game bar mode in ESO

    you're right, I cant access it too via win+G. It would be nice if someone here could show us how to disable this.

    Go into Windows 10 Settings. Search "game bar". Enable it. Then push Win + G while in a game and disable Game Mode.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on May 24, 2018 10:00PM
  • ramasurinenpreub18_ESO
    The massive freezes feel like a thread collision related to player character model loading, where the main game thread passed off the loading to other cores, but they weren't ready with results when asked for them. The freezes happen most often and severely when approaching wayshrines, especially in Artaeum and Alinor, where a lot of people tend to go AFK.

    I've been messing with the UserSettings.ini settings for multicore, restricting the number of threads a bit. The freezes are definitely coming from the "WorkerThreads" line, as setting it to 0 removes them entirely, but at the loss of a little fps in general, while setting them to 8 turns the entire game into a near constant slideshow. With the settings below I have managed to completely remove all the freezes and stutters, in Alinor and everywhere else. Framerate now seems to be about the same as pre-patch. Smooth as silk. Maybe give these a try until they get a proper fix in.

    SET MaxCoresToUse.4 "8" (if you have a quad core hyperthreading cpu, if not use "4")
    SET RequestedNumJobThreads "4"
    SET RequestedNumWorkerThreads "1"

    Also, setting GPUSmoothingFrames to "0" or "1" can be very helpful with general smoothness and microstutters, as well as input lag and responsiveness if you have a high end GPU. "0" is best if you can get away with it.

    Cheers.
    Edited by ramasurinenpreub18_ESO on May 24, 2018 10:21PM
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