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Summerset DLC, 2TB Hard disk space minimum?

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since how big base game is and the 10GB weekly updates, I must buy at least 2TB hard drive to play this game? I have other games too you know, and ESO is so damn huge - I have it on Steam and the steam client does some nasty "local cache file" nonsense and that eats up already 25+GB space on my disk before the actual download. No I'm not a tech expert and I dont need to be one, I just want to play this game without having cancer in terms of space.

And don't give me that "5TB HDD is 70$, get one" ***, not everyone lives in the US and I do not have a walmart shop next to my house.

Dear ZOS, ever heard something called "data compression"? Does not even matter if its a MMO game, they just trying to minimize their stupid business costs.
  • SammyFable
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    No idea what you're talking about, the game is currently 64.7GB large.
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  • DeltaForce64x
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    SammyFable wrote: »
    No idea what you're talking about, the game is currently 64.7GB large.

    Of course, and ESO is the only game in my computer right?
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Everyone's games are getting bigger and bigger, and compression (video/texture/audio) seems to have gone out the window since it's not longer "needed" on consoles anymore.

    Final Fantasy 15 PC version? 155GB with 4k textures, 100 without
    Doom, something like 80GB with all the DLC
    CoD: Infinite Warfare is something like 130GB
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  • DMuehlhausen
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    SammyFable wrote: »
    No idea what you're talking about, the game is currently 64.7GB large.

    Of course, and ESO is the only game in my computer right?

    Ok, but you said you needed a 2 TB to play this game. No you need maybe a 150GB drive to play this game. It's not on ZoS if you have so many other games and data on your machine that you are out of space. Next thing people will be posting on here is that ZoS should be buying them new larger HDs, or how eventually so it can be played at max settings ZoS just owes us all 1080Ti right?
  • essi2
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    It's an MMO, a rather large one. It will take up alot of space. If you don't want to dedicate the space, play a smaller game.
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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    In OP's defense, it is a bit asinine that it requires double the necessary free space to patch.

    The current setup downloads the entire patch (requiring said space), mods the existing files (requiring 2x said space), then nukes the original download.

    It could certainly be setup to patch as it goes, as that's what the repair option does.

    And Azura help you should you decide to reinstall. 60Gb free won't cut it.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • DMuehlhausen
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    In OP's defense, it is a bit asinine that it requires double the necessary free space to patch.

    The current setup downloads the entire patch (requiring said space), mods the existing files (requiring 2x said space), then nukes the original download.

    It could certainly be setup to patch as it goes, as that's what the repair option does.

    And Azura help you should you decide to reinstall. 60Gb free won't cut it.

    That's fine, but that is still only what max of 200 GB in size. So if the OP needs a 2 TB drive that means they have probably at least 1.6 TB of data already. I work as a cloud provider for law firms, many of which have to save a lot of video files, and 1.6 TB is just a silly amount of data/storage. OP seems to have a lot of data stored/backed up. Could probably pair that down, or use some 3rd part off site hosting company to store a lot of it and remove it from the computer to help.
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  • Drachenfier
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    I have a 1TB drive with ESO, LOTRO, SWTOR, Total War Warhammer 2, Destiny 2 and a crap ton of smaller games and still have around 400 gigs of space, what are you talking about?
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    Final Fantasy 15 PC version? 155GB with 4k textures, 100 without
    Doom, something like 80GB with all the DLC
    CoD: Infinite Warfare is something like 130GB
    etc
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    Dear god, reading this caused me physical pain.
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  • Odnoc
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    SammyFable wrote: »
    No idea what you're talking about, the game is currently 64.7GB large.

    Of course, and ESO is the only game in my computer right?

    If that's the case, I might as well complain I need 100 TB to play since I have digitized my whole DVD collection, have other games, photos, music, ect..
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    Cheveyo wrote: »
    Final Fantasy 15 PC version? 155GB with 4k textures, 100 without
    Doom, something like 80GB with all the DLC
    CoD: Infinite Warfare is something like 130GB
    etc
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    Dear god, reading this caused me physical pain.

    Yep. Also makes me think back to the early years I was involved in computing.
    My Apple ][+ with it's amazing 48k of RAM...
    The 5-1/4" disks for that Apple ][+, with their amazing 140k storage space (Ultima 1 was on four discs, I think :D )
    The 10 megabyte harddrive we had kicking around in a corner from the 8086 PC's my dad worked with...
    The set of four 256mb RAM modules I found in a drawer, from when I upgraded my first Mac...


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    Aaaaaanyway. I keep 15-20% of my 1TB harddrive as free space, as I recall being told that you should keep room for patchers/installers/caches/etc to do their work while you're running programs. I've not had any trouble installing anything yet. /shrug
  • Kingslayer513
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    SammyFable wrote: »
    No idea what you're talking about, the game is currently 64.7GB large.

    Of course, and ESO is the only game in my computer right?

    I take it you don't play other modern games then. 64.7GB is on the smaller end of modern AAA games. I think you need to reevaluate your perception of hard drive space and "large games".
  • PlagueSD
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    since how big base game is and the 10GB weekly updates, I must buy at least 2TB hard drive to play this game? I have other games too you know, and ESO is so damn huge - I have it on Steam and the steam client does some nasty "local cache file" nonsense and that eats up already 25+GB space on my disk before the actual download. No I'm not a tech expert and I dont need to be one, I just want to play this game without having cancer in terms of space.

    And don't give me that "5TB HDD is 70$, get one" ***, not everyone lives in the US and I do not have a walmart shop next to my house.

    Dear ZOS, ever heard something called "data compression"? Does not even matter if its a MMO game, they just trying to minimize their stupid business costs.


    Not sure what you're talking about. I have ESO on a 250GB SSD drive...Along with about 2 other MMO's I currently play. I'm nowhere NEAR maxing out my drive

    only 135GB for BOTH live and PTS.

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    Edited by PlagueSD on May 22, 2018 6:43AM
  • Schemering
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    i have a 250 gb drive with both the game and the pts on it...
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  • Gargath
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    I have 500 GB and now while downloading patch I found myself in trouble, just 1,5 GB left on the hard drive, hope the installation will end... Didn't know I had no room, now I know I need to kick the GW2 out into space.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    SammyFable wrote: »
    No idea what you're talking about, the game is currently 64.7GB large.

    Of course, and ESO is the only game in my computer right?

    Almost all AAA games are 50-100 GB these days. My Rainbow 6 installation, for example, is 89 GB.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on May 21, 2018 8:35PM
  • VilniusNastavnik
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    I remember when I thought Supreme Commander' 30GB was massive...
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    I remember when I thought Supreme Commander' 30GB was massive...

    Which came out over 10 years ago. It sounds to me like OP hasn't played any AAA games in a while.
  • kichwas
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    In OP's defense, it is a bit asinine that it requires double the necessary free space to patch.

    The current setup downloads the entire patch (requiring said space), mods the existing files (requiring 2x said space), then nukes the original download.

    It could certainly be setup to patch as it goes, as that's what the repair option does.

    And Azura help you should you decide to reinstall. 60Gb free won't cut it.

    That's fine, but that is still only what max of 200 GB in size.

    I use a MacBook as my main computer, but I had to install this game on a PC because Macs have absurdly small hard drives for modern computers...

    Granted that's a fault on Mac... my next main home machine is going to be a PC and this is just one of many reasons...

    My original plan in getting ESO was to be able to play a game without having to use a Windows partition... but this MMO is about 1.5 to 2x as 'large' as other games, so that plan ended on day one.

    200gb is a LOT when your computer only has 500gb total and you're burning up 150 of that for Mac and apps over there.

    I'm currently updating on a computer that, PC side, has a 290gb drive... But 119gb free. Hoping it doesn't stop at some point from disk space, because this is my older machine, the newer machine has even less space on it...
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  • dbgager
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    You do realize 2 TB is 2000 GB don't you. The game is about 1/15 the that size at 64 GB. Just because you have other games thats your choice. You need 64 GB to play the game not 2 TB. Plus the fact of the matter is hard drives are cheap....Very cheap. You could easily double that storage for about $80.
    Edited by dbgager on May 21, 2018 9:40PM
  • imrilaoi
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    I'm still wondering where the OP got the "10GB weekly updates" part of his post from.

    Aside from the (lol) 2TB hard drive he seems to think he needs, where did that magic number come from?

    I've had the game since at least 2/9/2016 and I've yet to see a consistent weekly update, much less a weekly "10GB" update.

    If we do some lazy math and throw out the extra months since I've switched the game to Steam, thats two years. Two years x 10GB would be... eh. Roughly 1TB.

    Game is taking up about 91GB of my hard drive, with the patch data. No where near that 1TB, or your magical 10GB per week number, sorry.

    And, you're right. Not everyone lives in the US, but a 1TB Performance grade hard drive costs 70$USD, 88$Canadian, £65 (pounds), 100$Australian, ooorrrr about 80 euro. These prices include shipping. Sorry, the only prices I'm unfamiliar with are Russia's, as the financing company I worked for had no business dealings with Russia.

    For the most part, that isn't expensive. It might be considered expensive in Russia, but again, I'm not familiar with Russia's prices or general level of income. It also might be considered expensive if you had to pay for a new hard drive every month, but... you don't. A good hard drive lasts for a minimum of 3 years, assuming you don't get a bad drive and you maintain your components (clean your cases out, friends! Dust buildup is a component killer).
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    A lot of modern mid to upper end prebuilt PC's come with either a 500gb to a 1tb drive these days. Even the 500gb one is more than enough for ESO plus other games.
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    Cheveyo wrote: »
    Final Fantasy 15 PC version? 155GB with 4k textures, 100 without
    Doom, something like 80GB with all the DLC
    CoD: Infinite Warfare is something like 130GB
    etc
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    Dear god, reading this caused me physical pain.

    I guess you don't want to here about the collective 400+ GB I have currently being used up by Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 4, NV, and 3 lol.
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  • qwyksylver
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    Yeah not sure why this is an issue, i have a 500GB drive and have multiple other games, photo editing software, video editing software plus the usual random junk and still am not in danger of running out of space
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  • Eeri_Ravencaw
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    I keep games on a 1TB drive and regularly delete games I finish and don't play anymore. He probably thinks just because HD is huge, there's no need for disk management.
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    Everyone wants to have the pretty graphics nowadays. Therefore the games get bigger and bigger. Storage is cheap, that’s another reason - nobody will compress files and waste processing time that lessen FPS or require artificial cutscenes or loading screens just for saving disk space.

    It’s not 8 bit sprite graphics any longer that would fit into 128 KB...
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