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PvP werewolf shredder dueler

  • grannas211
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    This thread interests me. Cheers to everyone offering up their advice.
  • Ritter
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    @Raudgrani You speak in absolutes a lot. I've literally gone 15-0-17 in Battlegrounds on a full damage build and no healer, so... You're just mistaken

    EDIT: OK, wait... you're suggesting Queen's Elegance + Sergeant's Mail and lambasting actually coherent builds... get a grip mate!
    Edited by Ritter on May 15, 2018 8:26PM
  • Raudgrani
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    Ritter wrote: »
    @Raudgrani You speak in absolutes a lot. I've literally gone 15-0-17 in Battlegrounds on a full damage build and no healer, so... You're just mistaken

    EDIT: OK, wait... you're suggesting Queen's Elegance + Sergeant's Mail and lambasting actually coherent builds... get a grip mate!

    That's not really gonna change my opinion. You did something like that? And suddenly, a theoretically useless build is suddenly "coherent". You got the grip for sure

    In theory crafting, very basically put, you'll at least need a theoretical way to sustain, survive, deal damage and so on. And Armor of Truth and Spriggan - or whatever it was - doesn't cover those standard basic needs. If YOU can excel and become the hero of Tamriel in that gear, that is great - but it is still not a good build for the rest of us.

    And my "suggestions" wasn't really me suggesting anyone to use those above sets; but as you obviously still failed to understand this, my discussion with you is hereby over.
  • Aznox
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    Raudgrani wrote: »
    You will never - ever - be able to survive in werewolf form, on a "damage oriented build" like Armor of Truth/Spriggan. Anyone who says those two sets together are "best in slot" for werewolves, proves they know diddly squat about werewolf builds.
    And anyone writing i said that doesn't know how to read.

    And Bosmer, Khajiit etc. as werewolf, no. Just no. ;-) How much have you actually been *playing* werewolf?
    70% of theses fights ?
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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Raudgrani wrote: »
    @geonsocal got it alright, poison is the mythical death of werewolves in ESO, in reality you die howling in a sea of Talons and other roots and snares. You sometimes see some PVP noob shooting you with a dozen poison injections, confused why you ain't dead yet - because werewolves "take so much poision damage, that you can't play them in PVP". That's some seconds before you actually have the time to pay him some attention hahaha....

    I tried Armot of Truth like a year ago, I wanted it to work but wasn't very impressed. I was using those Foreman's Ring (Robust) and some other parts. It kind of felt lackluster. I couldn't really tell I had 450 more damage, I had to verify it by checking. Now I got the armor itself in 5 pieces now, and I might be able to make something nice with it by the next update.
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Does anyone even know about truth set? Lol

    By far the best a werewolf can wear.

    Spriggan as second set and Troll King as monster. Hunding works great too!

    Orc probably comes out on top, Bosmer will work too, although I picked Khajiit personally.

    As far as classes go, sorcerer and nightblade perform the best it seems.

    You want as much raw damage as you can get.

    Why would a Nightblade perform well? That's a honest question. What passives are beneficial? I really can't find a single one myself. All of them are like "when you have a xxx slotted" or "when you use an xxxx ability" - and these doesn't count in werewolf form.
    And Bosmer, Khajiit etc. as werewolf, no. Just no. ;-) How much have you actually been *playing* werewolf? You will need to be able of taking quite some damage, actually way more than you'll have time and possibility to deal to others. As soon as you transform, you will be the center of attention. In Battlegrounds for example, that's ok though. You'll have like maximum 8 enemies to deal with, but in Cyrodiil? Bosmer? Werewolf? Yeah. Mine was turned a vampire after a few laughable attempts at being a PVP nightblade werewolf. I tell you that much. :-)

    @Raudgrani
    Hey, first I'm a Nb bosmer werewolf and yes there are a few Nb passives useful in ww Form like the catalyst passive( one can start every fight with the ww ulti half full) and refreshing shadow (15% extra Stam and mag rec)
    I like bosmer for the good Stam sustain even tho I agree imperial or Nord would probably be better.
    I agree on many of your opinions and wanted to ask what your gt is. I also wanted to ask you on your opinion on Pelinal vs Shacklebreaker.
    I'd also like to ask how many points you put under blessed (blue tree). Feel free to join the Ww theory crafting thread having people who know what they are doing on their ww. Just be open minded you know the saying "many ways lead to Rome"
    Apart from warden each race and class has its strengths in werewolf Form, it comes down to individual preference in my opinion.
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  • labambao
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    Lots of good info in this post, let me just list some small points of disagreement :smile:
    • From a pure werewolf perspective, Orc is at least as good as Nord, if not superior
    • Sorcerer has a clear advantage in term of passives working in werewolf form
    • Claws of life is not worth it in PvP, use lingering health pots to proc Troll King
    • I play with as low as 1200-1400 stam recovery, you can get 12K stamina from a heavy attack on off-balanced (fear) opponent.
    • For dual wield bar : infused off-hand is the best option to boost you weapon damage glyph and cut cooldown on both enchants.
    • Stacking Weapon Damage is currently better than Max Stamina (Hulking Draugr vs Automaton) BUT this will probably change in Summerset

    I agree with everything else, personally i run Troll King + Shacklebreaker + Automaton (and replace automaton for Imperial Physique in IC). 5 Heavy 1 Medium 1 Light / Full Tristat and impenetrable.


    Did you try some Pelinal instead Shackle? For more self-healing burst.
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