I agree it is fun when people some call a RL noob for playing the map and not the doing AP farming thingy

But you can still have plenty of fun

...saw the thread title and the first thought was "Yay! There IS a God after all!"

Biro123 wrote: »

Couldn't agree more, Rav.

Its a sad, sad state late in the day, when all the groups playing for the alliance have disbanded and all you see are 3/4-man groups camping resources farming the soloers who come out to investigate...

I don't see many good players wanting an outnumbered fight.. Most I see run away, and only stand and fight when they outnumber their opponent (usually with co-ordinated burst). There's nothing cool about that. (nothing wrong with it either - just don't pretend that its some kind of 'leet' playstylel)

Most 'good players' really just want to farm as many randoms as possible, whether its a ball-group or a 4-man. Otherwise they(4-mand) wouldn't be setting up camp in a resource behind enemy lines waiting for people to come out one by one. Instead you'd be behind your own lines clearing out the other 4-man groups, or in the front-lines seeing how big a chunk of the zerg you can pull apart.

And I do think one of the main causes is the off-peak pv-dooring by certain factions. At least the upcoming changes may help to address it.

Lol you describe most of the "players looking for good fights".

They Xv1 solos and duos or beginners with their OP 3-6man groups.

Then cry zerg when the newbies gang up on them.

Also even worse is when these groups avoid eachother to kill the easier pugs/unexperienced players. Good fights they say

Edit: About pvp dying, in a way it is. We used to have more campaigns with higher population numbers and more players overall in PvP. Sad that the game they announced to be built around battles with hundreds of players on screen turned into this pile of crap.

raviour wrote: »

@Master_Kas you are one of the strongest players EU and a nice person but you are a culprit for leaching Big Boss and Saras morning zergs so you cannot say anything on this thread.

If you really wanted real PvP you would roll a DC or EP and bomb those scrubs.

I grow bored very quickly of magblade, and bombing with all the earthgores and 30khp tanks and healers going around. Only thing you can bomb alone now is unexperiencced pugs with bad gear and no awareness.

My main is my DK, and I'm really not feeling like grinding a new char, undaunted, achievments/titles, have a slow mount, mages/fightersguild and grab all skyshards again. I guess that's my excuse.

Tough I'm online both to leech the morningcap and during primetime / night when we usually get destroyed, not only in the mornings :P

Edit: Is Shor really that bad with that emp trading thing? Been thinking of playing there during Vivec primetime because of the lag lately.

But Rav you're "the most influential player on Vivec" surely you can put a stop to this?

I totally agree with this post, pvp is in a very bad shape. People prefer to farm and fight stupidly non stop than playin the map; i'm part of 2 pvp guild in vivec (ep) one of them plays objectives at night, and the other guild are always in search of "good fights" meaning going to take a ressource to have a buff and wait for ennemies to come and run in circle in the toer and guilde people. I don't say it's not funny but it's funny sometimes and really boring....and every "good" player or group of players do that non stop.
You could delete or the map and keeps and put just 3 tower to run around in circle they would never notice it. And when you play the map your told your a coward a noob or a zergher ( and i usualy play solo or in group or 5 ,8 max) . For the first time this campain i went all in in pvp and scoring to help the pact taking fort etc but all this for nothing ( 2nd place not 3rd better than nothing) because of ad morning cap and big boss group... i mean ive being up some night until late to fight his zerg and block him ( not really difficul when he things he will do pve and find a 5 man group he get's wiped) but what's the point ,you go to sleep and when you come back you have being dethrone map his yellow and they have 1000 points more.

And another thing that his ruining vivec eu his lags lags and more lags you can properly play during day when no one is here but when ppl come online you can't play, freezes crash and more lags, skills delay, or even worse skill dont launch( if u play melee 2hander u can say adios to your dps u get stuck in anim skills take 5 sec to launch). So please fix this your server it's the only pvp online game when you can't play in primetime. In general i avoid primetime but this time couldn't ( wouldn't want to loose 1st place) and it's a nightmare...and being emp during primetime even worse u can only launch one skill Dawnbreaker ( 1 times out of 2 skills don't launch)..when i see i'm emp in primetime i'm not happy and i know i will rage when playing...so tell me what the point of giving so much time and effort to be unable to play and have fun? and to have to wait until 1am to be able to play... and yesterday i was lagging until 4 of the morning so i guess things are not getting better.