[Video] Two Stamblades Destroy a 10-Man Group - PvP Tips and Tricks Available!
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Thunderknuckles✭✭✭✭StackonClown wrote: »Not to be salty but this only really works with 'bads' doesnt it?
Otherwise:
1/ find 5-10 well-known top pro players and try to 1vX against them
2/ guarantee Fail and go back to 1vPotato
@StackonClown @Thunderknuckles
No salt taken!
The answer is yes. You can only really 1vX players who are worse than you. In theory, if you are fighting somebody equally talented at the same CP with comparably effective setups- the fight should be a draw and go on indefinitely until somebody gets bored, runs out of pots, gets run over by a zerg, or some other outside influence disrupts the fight. So any additional numbers would sway the fight against you. I might be able to kite players of equal or better skill into 1v1s, but not fight them outright.
But 1vXs are still fun to watch (for me, at least); and the types of fights vary dramatically. I record very few fights where everyone is low level- because it's not impressive or exciting. Many of the players in these videos were higher than me in both CP and Alliance Rank (CP830, AR25-30). As you can see from the video, those titles are not determinate of skill, but it's not like these guys bought the game yesterday either.
The impressive part of any fight is outplaying an enemy, and it's why I like to feature fights of different sizes. I felt similarly accomplished (if maybe a little less dramatic) about winning the 1v2 I had near the end of the video as I did about the 2vX at the beginning of the video, because they were both fights I had to think about and navigate carefully.
tl;dr: People who I 1vX are theoretically always worse than me, but they are not all equally bad, and some are considered 'good' by many other players, misled as they may be.
Oh yeah! Wrecking potatoes can be extremely entertaining. ha ha If I Ambush someone, though, and my 48K crit makes a heavy metallic "TONK!" sound and they only take 3K of that damage....I usually wuss out and run. LOL Edited to add that, er...if they're on my level. Oh, and the folks I refer to who do a lot of Youtube vids aren't just having fun. They're making themselves out to be top tier players. Maybe they are, but when 8/10's of the people you see them wrecking are CP 350 and under it takes some of the "cool" out of it.Edited by Thunderknuckles on May 15, 2018 10:03PM0 -
Thunderknuckles✭✭✭✭SpiderCultist wrote: »Can't wait to see NBs nerfed (Hello Incapaciting Strike) so that Cyrodiil is not overpopulated by them.
It's so disgusting to see everyone plays stamNBs now I'm not playing mine anymore. They are a plague that needs to be eradicated.
So most of these people died from poison inject + crit rush + Selenes' + reverse slice and you think it's because Nightblades are OP? No, not even close. Stamblades are just fine and need no adjustments. You'll be happy to know that they're getting hit hard next update:
No more crit heals from Shadowy disguise, and anyone wearing Sloads'will prevent the Nightblade from cloaking.
Do you mean that when the set damage procs the NB won't be able to stealth? Kinda like Vicecanon of Venom or Sheer Venom?0 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Thunderknuckles wrote: »SpiderCultist wrote: »Can't wait to see NBs nerfed (Hello Incapaciting Strike) so that Cyrodiil is not overpopulated by them.
It's so disgusting to see everyone plays stamNBs now I'm not playing mine anymore. They are a plague that needs to be eradicated.
So most of these people died from poison inject + crit rush + Selenes' + reverse slice and you think it's because Nightblades are OP? No, not even close. Stamblades are just fine and need no adjustments. You'll be happy to know that they're getting hit hard next update:
No more crit heals from Shadowy disguise, and anyone wearing Sloads'will prevent the Nightblade from cloaking.
Do you mean that when the set damage procs the NB won't be able to stealth? Kinda like Vicecanon of Venom or Sheer Venom?
The Oblivion damage from Sloads' is not suppressed by shadowy disguise, and if you try to go invisible while it's active it'll break your invisibility. This set is a hard counter to Nightblades that like to go invisible (which is the grand majority).0 -
WreckfulAbandon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Good 2vX video is still good 2vX video.
Who cares what their CP is, I didn't seeing them lining up for 1v1s in turn. 2vX is some of the most fun you will have in this game, a lot of ppl are just salty they don't have clutch teammates
PC NA
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Thunderknuckles✭✭✭✭Thunderknuckles wrote: »SpiderCultist wrote: »Can't wait to see NBs nerfed (Hello Incapaciting Strike) so that Cyrodiil is not overpopulated by them.
It's so disgusting to see everyone plays stamNBs now I'm not playing mine anymore. They are a plague that needs to be eradicated.
So most of these people died from poison inject + crit rush + Selenes' + reverse slice and you think it's because Nightblades are OP? No, not even close. Stamblades are just fine and need no adjustments. You'll be happy to know that they're getting hit hard next update:
No more crit heals from Shadowy disguise, and anyone wearing Sloads'will prevent the Nightblade from cloaking.
Do you mean that when the set damage procs the NB won't be able to stealth? Kinda like Vicecanon of Venom or Sheer Venom?
The Oblivion damage from Sloads' is not suppressed by shadowy disguise, and if you try to go invisible while it's active it'll break your invisibility. This set is a hard counter to Nightblades that like to go invisible (which is the grand majority).
May have to try this myself and combine it with Shield Breaker. Be a nice experiment. Edited to mention that NB's like to Cloak because....it's a central element to the very class itself. You might as well say something like, "It's a counter to Sorcs that like to use magic!" Well....no **** Sherlock that they use magic.Edited by Thunderknuckles on May 16, 2018 12:28AM1 -
StackonClown✭✭✭✭✭Thunderknuckles wrote: »StackonClown wrote: »Not to be salty but this only really works with 'bads' doesnt it?
Otherwise:
1/ find 5-10 well-known top pro players and try to 1vX against them
2/ guarantee Fail and go back to 1vPotato
@StackonClown @Thunderknuckles
No salt taken!
The answer is yes. You can only really 1vX players who are worse than you. In theory, if you are fighting somebody equally talented at the same CP with comparably effective setups- the fight should be a draw and go on indefinitely until somebody gets bored, runs out of pots, gets run over by a zerg, or some other outside influence disrupts the fight. So any additional numbers would sway the fight against you. I might be able to kite players of equal or better skill into 1v1s, but not fight them outright.
But 1vXs are still fun to watch (for me, at least); and the types of fights vary dramatically. I record very few fights where everyone is low level- because it's not impressive or exciting. Many of the players in these videos were higher than me in both CP and Alliance Rank (CP830, AR25-30). As you can see from the video, those titles are not determinate of skill, but it's not like these guys bought the game yesterday either.
The impressive part of any fight is outplaying an enemy, and it's why I like to feature fights of different sizes. I felt similarly accomplished (if maybe a little less dramatic) about winning the 1v2 I had near the end of the video as I did about the 2vX at the beginning of the video, because they were both fights I had to think about and navigate carefully.
tl;dr: People who I 1vX are theoretically always worse than me, but they are not all equally bad, and some are considered 'good' by many other players, misled as they may be.
Oh yeah! Wrecking potatoes can be extremely entertaining. ha ha If I Ambush someone, though, and my 48K crit makes a heavy metallic "TONK!" sound and they only take 3K of that damage....I usually wuss out and run. LOL Edited to add that, er...if they're on my level. Oh, and the folks I refer to who do a lot of Youtube vids aren't just having fun. They're making themselves out to be top tier players. Maybe they are, but when 8/10's of the people you see them wrecking are CP 350 and under it takes some of the "cool" out of it.
Reminds me of Kramer from Seinfeld fighting Karate with a bunch of kids and being proud of it... he thought it was cool but everyone else just found it laughable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Foundation_(Seinfeld)
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Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don't diminish the spirit of the word "zerg" applying it to 10 people. I'll have nothing left to call 50-60 people pouring out of a keep. Great video, from the fights to the Careless Whisper.0 -
Killset✭✭✭✭
Hmmm... I’ve played NB since day 1 until I hit Grand Overlord on him, through thick and thin. I got to legate almost exclusively from IC duels. I play Stamplar, MagPlar, and MagDK. I can tell you that those three classes can be built to be every bit as strong 1v1 as stam NB and offer WAY more group utility. Let me ask you this, what’s changed with Stamblade all of a sudden that makes the class suddenly OP. What buffs have they received to catapult this class into the stratosphere. None. The class has been systematically nerfed, directly and indirectly, along with almost every other class.SpiderCultist wrote: »
Translation - I’m a potato that needs everything nerfed down to my level. The players in that video were BAD man. Finding 10 low level newbs in the same place at the same time like that on Xbox NA is like the same chances of getting hit by a meteor or getting bit by a shark in Ohio.SpiderCultist wrote: »Can't wait to see NBs nerfed (Hello Incapaciting Strike) so that Cyrodiil is not overpopulated by them.
It's so disgusting to see everyone plays stamNBs now I'm not playing mine anymore. They are a plague that needs to be eradicated.
P.S. good vid
Translation - I'm a new NB who enjoys being OP while it lasts. What's the fun at playing a class that is clearly overperforming? Do you find it challenging? I just pointed out the obvious and more than that, I said I played one until we were legion. Now I stick to my mNB.
P.S. Nevertheless, I liked his video on youtube, that does not diminish what I wrote: ZoS should take actions or 80% of the pvp population will be nightblades.
I think you, along with a handful of other forum warriors, torch and pitchfork after classes with a mob mentality. If something gives you a hard time you run to the forums QQing for nerfs. And FYI there aren’t nearly as many NB’s on Xbox NA as you would have everyone believe. All the rage seams to be block tank magplars, block tank DKs and stam warden in ball zergs. Remember, you only see a tiny fraction of the picture. Quit acting like you can see the whole thing.
P.S. I laughed when you said now you just play MagNB, probably the strongest 1v1 class in the game, like your some kind of edgy ESO hipster, resisting the meta.
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Grimhallow✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Don't diminish the spirit of the word "zerg" applying it to 10 people. I'll have nothing left to call 50-60 people pouring out of a keep. Great video, from the fights to the Careless Whisper.
@Sandman929
Haha thanks! Nothing like barely sneaking past a group of 40 players ending a siege fight.
I'm running out of sexy saxophone songs to use in my videos. Let me know if any pop to mind!0 -
mursie✭✭✭✭✭could you share your magplar bud's build? interested to know what he is running while duoing with you.0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭SpiderCultist wrote: »Can't wait to see NBs nerfed (Hello Incapaciting Strike) so that Cyrodiil is not overpopulated by them.
It's so disgusting to see everyone plays stamNBs now I'm not playing mine anymore. They are a plague that needs to be eradicated.
So most of these people died from poison inject + crit rush + Selenes' + reverse slice and you think it's because Nightblades are OP? No, not even close. Stamblades are just fine and need no adjustments. You'll be happy to know that they're getting hit hard next update:
No more crit heals from Shadowy disguise, and anyone wearing Sloads'will prevent the Nightblade from cloaking.
I love the fact that all these nerfs don't affect my NB build, nobody uses, in the slightest and other changes actually buff it
Im almost afraid to use it. Edited by Nyladreas on May 19, 2018 1:04AM0 -
StackonClown✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Don't diminish the spirit of the word "zerg" applying it to 10 people. I'll have nothing left to call 50-60 people pouring out of a keep. Great video, from the fights to the Careless Whisper.
Careless whisper - thats a joke right? lol i think ?0 -
Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Don't diminish the spirit of the word "zerg" applying it to 10 people. I'll have nothing left to call 50-60 people pouring out of a keep. Great video, from the fights to the Careless Whisper.
@Sandman929
Haha thanks! Nothing like barely sneaking past a group of 40 players ending a siege fight.
I'm running out of sexy saxophone songs to use in my videos. Let me know if any pop to mind!
They're not all sexy songs, but how about some Morphine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAWsVXKzq8 0 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭SpiderCultist wrote: »Can't wait to see NBs nerfed (Hello Incapaciting Strike) so that Cyrodiil is not overpopulated by them.
It's so disgusting to see everyone plays stamNBs now I'm not playing mine anymore. They are a plague that needs to be eradicated.
So most of these people died from poison inject + crit rush + Selenes' + reverse slice and you think it's because Nightblades are OP? No, not even close. Stamblades are just fine and need no adjustments. You'll be happy to know that they're getting hit hard next update:
No more crit heals from Shadowy disguise, and anyone wearing Sloads'will prevent the Nightblade from cloaking.
I love the fact that all these nerfs don't affect my NB build, nobody uses, in the slightest and other changes actually buff it Im almost afraid to use it.
You and me both. I haven't used cloak since they got rid of its purge. The change was a buff for me lol.0 -
Animus-ESO✭✭✭✭✭could you share your magplar bud's build? interested to know what he is running while duoing with you.
Hey friend I'm the magplar in that video. Currently I am running 5 light armor 2 heavy, the sets I'm wearing is 5 peice rattlecage, 5 piece over whelming surge, 2 Grothdar. Dw/s&b. With the patch update ill be switching to electro staff.Dude Where's My Guar?1 -
DUTCH_REAPER✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hahahahaha
Friggin great vid /golfclap /raisesglasstoyouSirEdited by DUTCH_REAPER on May 21, 2018 7:31PM0 -
damtotb16_ESO✭✭✭
NB is the ridicule class that should have never been created in the first place, it shows how ZO run out of ideas and created something preposterous. I play this game from beta days, 90% of nb's I encounter are guys who lurk to catch you in situations where you struggle already and avoid any sort of fairity in play stile. Moreover many "good" nb's if killed usually convey salty remarks and no respect. Nb class bring out the worst in people.
Perhaps I should not get so emotionally invested in this game but thanx to passionate losers like me ESO is still thriving to this date- well sort of
My 2 c...
PS I enjoyed the music though
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Thunderknuckles✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Don't diminish the spirit of the word "zerg" applying it to 10 people. I'll have nothing left to call 50-60 people pouring out of a keep. Great video, from the fights to the Careless Whisper.
@Sandman929
Haha thanks! Nothing like barely sneaking past a group of 40 players ending a siege fight.
I'm running out of sexy saxophone songs to use in my videos. Let me know if any pop to mind!
Have you used any of Kenny G's stuff?0 -
Grimhallow✭✭✭@damtotb16_ESO
I was always under the impression that nightblade was the rogue archetype- pretty standard stuff. Maybe I'm wrong?damtotb16_ESO wrote: »...it shows how ZO run out of ideas and created something preposterous...
I hope you didn't see that watching my clips!damtotb16_ESO wrote: »90% of nb's I encounter are guys who lurk to catch you in situations where you struggle already and avoid any sort of fairity in play stile...damtotb16_ESO wrote: »I enjoyed the music though
Thank you! I love "Careless Whisper"
@Thunderknuckles
Kenny G is a great idea! I'll have to look through some of his stuff and see if anything fits my clips.
Now that Summerset is out there is a ton of testing to do- Then I'll be releasing a new build video soon!Edited by Grimhallow on May 21, 2018 11:18PM0