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Can anyone check if they fixed sload's breaking cloak please?
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No DOTs don’t break cloak, cloak suppresses them.
But oblivion DOTs are special, the damage is unavoidable no matter what you do. So yes, they will still break cloak.
This set pretty much screws everyone over. I don’t see why nightblade should get a special exemption unless you let oblivion damage stop going through shields, block, and ignore heavy armor too.
[edited to remove baiting comment]Edited by ZOS_JesC on May 14, 2018 8:46PM20 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It should still apply damage while in cloak but not reveal the user.
Kind of like how...
It does damage through shields but doesn't make the user drop their shield.
It does damage through block but doesn't make the user drop block.11 -
Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
✭It will be interesting to fight against this set.Edited by Takes-No-Prisoner on May 14, 2018 6:18PM0 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »It should still apply damage while in cloak but not reveal the user.
Kind of like how...
It does damage through shields but doesn't make the user drop their shield.
It does damage through block but doesn't make the user drop block.
Then all dots should too. Since block has bleed, dots, unblockables, on targets, many AoEs. Shields have too little counters, but are much weaker than cloak in openworld.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What is it that they always tell Sorcs who complain about Shield Breaker?
"Just slot a few HOTs, bro!'
HAHAHAHA... Time to slot some hots, Nightblades!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE29 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭In all seriousness, Sloads set needs to go. Period.
If you let one class get a free pass on it tearing through or ignoring their active defenses, you’re going to get a bunch of geniuses here saying “The set is fine! L2P!”
So long as all of us hate it, we’ll have a better chance of the devs doing something about it. Remove the DOT, make it a single 3-4K hit or something. Anything.Edited by Minalan on May 14, 2018 6:26PM6 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭My stamblade welcomes Sloads'. The weaker Nightblades will have to adapt or become AP.12 -
glavius✭✭✭✭✭It will certainly make cloak a useless skill that's for sure. And clearing 2 negative effects with purge is unlikely to even clear the sload's dot, among many other effects. Plus it's expensive as hell.3
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Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.6 -
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✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.
Now you know exactly how we sorcs felt when Shieldbreaker went live.
Karma.10 -
glavius✭✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.
Now you know exactly how we sorcs felt when Shieldbreaker went live.
Karma.
There's a big difference here though. Shieldbreaker is completely unbalanced, but only used by very few since it's useless against most builds. Sload's on the other hand, will be used by many, because it will be one of the best pvp sets in the game (for single target builds)4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭.Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.
Did you just say "wait till sorc gets destroyed" in reference to Nerfs?
I started as a Sorc, about 4 years ago (a bit less I reckon lol) and it has gone through some very harsh, nerfed, times.
I recall when Templars didn't even really function
I can't think of a less overall nerfed class than NB.
Sure it has been "nerfed" here and there. It gets to keep it's 3+ hard CCs, it's spammable costs the same as pulse (OH GOD NO -_-;) It gets gap closers, executes and heals, Incap didn't get a cost increase like trees, didn't get a tooltip Nerf like trees, it gets several abilities that can grant major expedition.
Hell the passives just for slotting abilities are actual abilities on other classes.
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shinikaze✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.
Now you know exactly how we sorcs felt when Shieldbreaker went live.
Karma.
you know, sload's + shield breaker is a thing right?5 -
Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.
Now you know exactly how we sorcs felt when Shieldbreaker went live.
Karma.
Shieldbreaker doesn't matter if said person is a petsorc.
And Shieldbreaker will be your least problem when Wrobel wrobels your class in 3-6 months because it deletes everything which isn't a fulltank.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
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Nightblade was the most broken class in game for the first year. Cloak used to break on every dot the nightblade put on an opponent, making half of the class abilities unusable.Waffennacht wrote: »Did you just say "wait till sorc gets destroyed" in reference to Nerfs?
I started as a Sorc, about 4 years ago (a bit less I reckon lol) and it has gone through some very harsh, nerfed, times.
I recall when Templars didn't even really function
I can't think of a less overall nerfed class than NB.
Sure it has been "nerfed" here and there. It gets to keep it's 3+ hard CCs, it's spammable costs the same as pulse (OH GOD NO -_-;) It gets gap closers, executes and heals, Incap didn't get a cost increase like trees, didn't get a tooltip Nerf like trees, it gets several abilities that can grant major expedition.
Hell the passives just for slotting abilities are actual abilities on other classes.
No, I don't feel bad for NBs in the least
Incap, while still very cheap, actually got a 50% cost increase from 50 to 75 ult.
Siphoning strikes, in its initial form an absolutely overpowered skill, was nerfed to actually cost more than it returned and still is only useful in pve, since pvp combat is not consistent enough to actually provide much of a net benefit, it cannot be used to improve the "off stat recovery" any longer and the heal does not have much impact in pvp.
Fear had always the issue of not being able to be broken free of, but also didn't work half the time for many patch iterations.
The magicka morph of the class execute is still the most difficult to use execute in game and misses at least half the time in fast paced combat situations for anyone with more than 70ms latency.
Strife finally will be fixed in summerset in regards to LA weaving. That only took 4 years.
While major expedition is an incredibly strong buff for BGs, the utility of templars (purge), dragon knights (reflect), sorcs (shields) and wardens (purge, absorb, snares, major expedition, brutality, light attack HoT, major crit & damage, etc.) are at least as useful, especially for open world pvp in cyro.
Nightblades are a strong class in pvp, no question. The toolkit is very very good, also no question. But the tenor of your post, implying that nightblades are overtuned due to class abilities and exempt from adjustments, is plain wrong.
The reason for having such a bad name is mainly based on the imbalance and power creep from champion points and the strength of stamina based builds in pvp scenarios.Edited by Leandor on May 14, 2018 10:15PM5 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.
Oh another one who thinks he knows me
Typical
I have 49k magicka, use 1 pet (familar on CP and the twilight on no CP). I'm more casual than you make yourself believe, my days as a duellist are loooong past either and I'm not a solo player anymore.
Put the torches away, I am not Dracane anymore.
I rather have a meta with OP Nightblades, because they are mostly fun to fight. I rather don't have a meta of ball of lightning spamming infinite sustain Sorcerers who you can't kill without a 100% counter setup.Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »What is it that they always tell Sorcs who complain about Shield Breaker?
"Just slot a few HOTs, bro!'
HAHAHAHA... Time to slot some hots, Nightblades!
except it is a nightmare for sorcs to.... they shot nbs and we got hit too -_-
shieldbreaker and sloads gg zos2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I will agree that this set is busted, ima use it just to target those lil crafty and plotting nbs3 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »What is it that they always tell Sorcs who complain about Shield Breaker?
"Just slot a few HOTs, bro!'
HAHAHAHA... Time to slot some hots, Nightblades!
except it is a nightmare for sorcs to.... they shot nbs and we got hit too -_-
shieldbreaker and sloads gg zos
Is that really any worse than shieldbreaker and knight slayer or torugs with an oblivion enchant?
The DOT from this set needs to be tuned down, isn’t three ticks of unavoidable damage enough?0 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.
Now you know exactly how we sorcs felt when Shieldbreaker went live.
Karma.
Shieldbreaker doesn't matter if said person is a petsorc.
And Shieldbreaker will be your least problem when Wrobel wrobels your class in 3-6 months because it deletes everything which isn't a fulltank.
After numerous block cost+doubling tick rate nerfs, making heavy a bland and boring "tank" armour by removing block reduction, wrath and nerfing constitution 2x (no scaling+42% decrease) and targeting any "tank" sets which work well outnumbered, desert rose, 7th, etc. Shuffle on heavy. Siphoner
Then the bleed+defile meta, which hurts more as a tank having to stay in open field.
Stamblades have never had it easier in comparison, with their barely nerfed good scaling defense, shade buffs, and general class strength of mobility and burst.
Sloads is basically welcome to the club.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Spending 5k magicka on a stamina toon to purge a dot which can't be purged. Have you ever played something which isn't maximum duel cheese? With 60k magicka and hiding behind three pets you can handle Sloads, on a medium armor build (doesn't matter which class it is) you can't, especially not as soon as Defile hits you.
Be happy that nb gets destroyed while sorc will be god tier and enjoy it until your class gets destroyed as well. Everybody knows this will happen, even the forum sorcs do. When the time comes I'll gonna explain you as well how to "adapt" to some stupid *** on a class which I don't play.
Oh another one who thinks he knows me Typical
I have 49k magicka, use 1 pet (familar on CP and the twilight on no CP). I'm more casual than you make yourself believe, my days as a duellist are loooong past either and I'm not a solo player anymore.
Put the torches away, I am not Dracane anymore.
I rather have a meta with OP Nightblades, because they are mostly fun to fight. I rather don't have a meta of ball of lightning spamming infinite sustain Sorcerers who you can't kill without a 100% counter setup.
Lol you've changed. I remember when you had an axe to grind with Nightblades.1 -
lazerlaz✭✭✭Nightblade will either have to slot purge or reconsider their playstyle.
Though not everyone will use this set and it won't always be on you either. I think people will use this to make the Nightblade meta go extinct until most meta NB's are too afraid to play Nightblade anymore and only the adapted good and decent remain. Just speculating here, but this set alone might bring a shift in meta and I'm honestly going to miss this meta.
Which meta nightblade are you taking about? Right now when I think meta nightblade I picture the heavy armor no cloak meta.
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Nightblade was the most broken class in game for the first year. Cloak used to break on every dot the nightblade put on an opponent, making half of the class abilities unusable.Waffennacht wrote: »Did you just say "wait till sorc gets destroyed" in reference to Nerfs?
I started as a Sorc, about 4 years ago (a bit less I reckon lol) and it has gone through some very harsh, nerfed, times.
I recall when Templars didn't even really function
I can't think of a less overall nerfed class than NB.
Sure it has been "nerfed" here and there. It gets to keep it's 3+ hard CCs, it's spammable costs the same as pulse (OH GOD NO -_-;) It gets gap closers, executes and heals, Incap didn't get a cost increase like trees, didn't get a tooltip Nerf like trees, it gets several abilities that can grant major expedition.
Hell the passives just for slotting abilities are actual abilities on other classes.
No, I don't feel bad for NBs in the least
Incap, while still very cheap, actually got a 50% cost increase from 50 to 75 ult.
Siphoning strikes, in its initial form an absolutely overpowered skill, was nerfed to actually cost more than it returned and still is only useful in pve, since pvp combat is not consistent enough to actually provide much of a net benefit, it cannot be used to improve the "off stat recovery" any longer and the heal does not have much impact in pvp.
Fear had always the issue of not being able to be broken free of, but also didn't work half the time for many patch iterations.
The magicka morph of the class execute is still the most difficult to use execute in game and misses at least half the time in fast paced combat situations for anyone with more than 70ms latency.
Strife finally will be fixed in summerset in regards to LA weaving. That only took 4 years.
While major expedition is an incredibly strong buff for BGs, the utility of templars (purge), dragon knights (reflect), sorcs (shields) and wardens (purge, absorb, snares, major expedition, brutality, light attack HoT, major crit & damage, etc.) are at least as useful, especially for open world pvp in cyro.
Nightblades are a strong class in pvp, no question. The toolkit is very very good, also no question. But the tenor of your post, implying that nightblades are overtuned due to class abilities and exempt from adjustments, is plain wrong.
The reason for having such a bad name is mainly based on the imbalance and power creep from champion points and the strength of stamina based builds in pvp scenarios.
I remember then, and dots breaking cloak... Take that frag! I was a sorc so unless I cursed the NB he was gone, and that's when curse was blockable and wings didn't have a reflect limit and meteor could bounce iirc
75 costing ult... Trees and panacea would like to have a word with you, fissure would like to have a word with tether soul and Incap and fear, gripping shards would like to speak with cripple
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✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »It should still apply damage while in cloak but not reveal the user.
Kind of like how...
It does damage through shields but doesn't make the user drop their shield.
It does damage through block but doesn't make the user drop block.
Then all dots should too. Since block has bleed, dots, unblockables, on targets, many AoEs. Shields have too little counters, but are much weaker than cloak in openworld.
This was the compromise when Cloak no longer purged negative effects. Oblivion DoTs should go through the suppression mechanics of cloak but ONLY Oblivion DoTs.
Shields are not weaker even by the slightest. Have you even met a good shield stacker?3 -
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✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »It should still apply damage while in cloak but not reveal the user.
Kind of like how...
It does damage through shields but doesn't make the user drop their shield.
It does damage through block but doesn't make the user drop block.
Then all dots should too. Since block has bleed, dots, unblockables, on targets, many AoEs. Shields have too little counters, but are much weaker than cloak in openworld.
This was the compromise when Cloak no longer purged negative effects. Oblivion DoTs should go through the suppression mechanics of cloak but ONLY Oblivion DoTs.
Shields are not weaker even by the slightest. Have you even met a good shield stacker?
Kek, cloak already stops you being targetted and hit with any single target ability, unless it is pre applied, you are invisible, so can escape with ease, and can force miss an infinite amount of projectiles all for a 4k cost for 2.5s. Wheras shields are too strong 1v1, but melt because the damage they take is full from everyone.
Cloak is infinitely stronger than a shield in outnumbered situations unless marked.
I agree, cloak shouldn't be broken by damage, only AoEs, but they should remove force misses, make dots tick, and make detection skills, like mark or detect pots allow you (only you) to see and hit them without breaking their cloak.
Cloak in its current state is far too OP, and making it not break from sloads would make that more so.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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I believe the force miss was added so single target attacks would stop breaking cloak.ZOS can't just fix it this was the onky way they could think to fix itbrandonv516 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »It should still apply damage while in cloak but not reveal the user.
Kind of like how...
It does damage through shields but doesn't make the user drop their shield.
It does damage through block but doesn't make the user drop block.
Then all dots should too. Since block has bleed, dots, unblockables, on targets, many AoEs. Shields have too little counters, but are much weaker than cloak in openworld.
This was the compromise when Cloak no longer purged negative effects. Oblivion DoTs should go through the suppression mechanics of cloak but ONLY Oblivion DoTs.
Shields are not weaker even by the slightest. Have you even met a good shield stacker?
Kek, cloak already stops you being targetted and hit with any single target ability, unless it is pre applied, you are invisible, so can escape with ease, and can force miss an infinite amount of projectiles all for a 4k cost for 2.5s. Wheras shields are too strong 1v1, but melt because the damage they take is full from everyone.
Cloak is infinitely stronger than a shield in outnumbered situations unless marked.
I agree, cloak shouldn't be broken by damage, only AoEs, but they should remove force misses, make dots tick, and make detection skills, like mark or detect pots allow you (only you) to see and hit them without breaking their cloak.
Cloak in its current state is far too OP, and making it not break from sloads would make that more so.0
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