Magplar 1vX | No Overwhelming or Wizards in this video :O

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxMaLXHD8qQ
First clip is pirates+innate+war maiden and everythign after that is pirates+mad tinkerer+war maiden.

Enjoy and good luck.
Edited by Akinos on May 15, 2018 3:58AM
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  • jerj6925
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    You were killing scrubs, nothing to brag about.
  • Akinos
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    jerj6925 wrote: »
    You were killing scrubs, nothing to brag about.

    Bragging? Nah, more like showing off a non meta build that most people wouldn't ever think of, let alone being able to use it effectively. Also, killing scrubs is how 99% of PvP videos are made and that won't change anytime soon.
    Edited by Akinos on May 15, 2018 2:10AM
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  • Jimmy_The_Fixer
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    You might want to put your build in the post, since you're making such a big deal about what sets you aren't running.
  • Akinos
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    You might want to put your build in the post, since you're making such a big deal about what sets you aren't running.

    How's what I said making a big deal? Making a big deal over it would be me saying something like "UNKILLABLE GODPLAR DESTROYS EVERYBODY, UNLIMITED SUSTAIN & EXXXTREME DPS" Like so many ESO youtubers do.

    Anyways I posted the builds in the videos comments but I'll put it here too. Maybe i'll get accused of things less. :smile:
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  • Elong
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    Awesome video Akinos, one of the best in the business!!!
  • Checkmath
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    Pretty unsure if pirates and mad tinkerer benefit you much according to the playstyle shown in the video. Mad tinkerer never hits from the tower and i havent seen you change into the pirate skeleton when i started to look out for it (or do some costumes supress the changing into the skeleton?). Anyway i dont see why you use mad tinkerer tough, it never hits. Innate axiom makes much more sense when your jabs and dark flares hit harder.
    Edited by Checkmath on May 15, 2018 5:13AM
  • Akinos
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    Pretty unsure if pirates and mad tinkerer benefit you much according to the playstyle shown in the video. Mad tinkerer never hits from the tower and i havent seen you change into the pirate skeleton when i started to look out for it.

    Pirates is hidden by the disguise and mad tinkerers works best in enclosed areas or when you get dog piled like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yKGlCEKNA
    Tinkerer is like a better version of overwhelming surge, because it provides a way to turn a fight around AND hit your opponents with an unexepected CC, and it also does a decent amount of damage.
    Also if you are referring to my use of ranged skills when outnumbered, It's best to pick a few off from a distance before going in for the final one or two kills, is it not? Charging into multiple enemies without at least killing one is not a good idea.
    Elong wrote: »
    Awesome video Akinos, one of the best in the business!!!
    Thanks Elong =D
    Edited by Akinos on May 15, 2018 5:20AM
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  • Checkmath
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    That totally depends on the build. But in your setup it doesnt make sense to play the other way round, since you are too squishy to get focussed by several enemies (you know what i mean with „focussed“, light attacking or occasional skills dont count). The bad thing about mad tinkerer is, that half of the time it doesnt work (like in the tower) and the other time, the proc is mostly uncontrolled. So you cant stun somebody as wished by using that set. The proc is unreliable and you cant combo it with anything else. I think you perform much better with more damage instead and an ultimate like dawnbreaker in that kind of situation.
    Edited by Checkmath on May 15, 2018 5:22AM
  • Akinos
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    That totally depends on the build. But in your setup it doesnt make sense to play the other way round, since you are too squishy to get focussed by several enemies (you know what i mean with „focussed“, light attacking or occasional skills dont count). The bad thing about mad tinkerer is, that half of the time it doesnt work (like in the tower) and the other time, the proc is mostly uncontrolled. So you cant stun somebody as wished by using that set.

    It's only squishy when pirates doesn't proc, which is rare when you are getting attacked by multiple players. The only downside I can think of with tinkerer is the double spell crit. The proc not being able to go down the side of a tower isn't really that bad. If it could roll off walls and towers it would be pretty OP lol. The proc is not as uncontrollable as you think, you should try it out.

    Also, those clips in the video are all from the same day I started using the build. I had literally just made it and never had used tinkerers before then. I'm sure I'll be able to get more and better fights once I get used to playing with mad tinkerers, I'm still trying to find which secondary set works best with it. So far I've tried tinkerer+maiden, tinkerer+shacklebreaker and tinkerer+duroks. So far the one I like the most is tinkerer+shacklebreaker. Still got alot of experimenting to do! :)
    Edited by Akinos on May 15, 2018 5:31AM
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  • Checkmath
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    I still would recommend going for a dawnbreaker at least in groupplay. It was pretty clear, that you guys will die in tower. In such a small scale group timed burst is key for succes, especially in that kind of tower fight a combined ultimate combo would have killed half of the enemies. Bat swarm is good for survival, but definitely unsuited like saul assault in such a situation.
  • Akinos
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    I still would recommend going for a dawnbreaker at least in groupplay. It was pretty clear, that you guys will die in tower. In such a small scale group timed burst is key for succes, especially in that kind of tower fight a combined ultimate combo would have killed half of the enemies. Bat swarm is good for survival, but definitely unsuited like saul assault in such a situation.

    I think you missed the point of that 2nd video lol.

    But your right, another ult would of been better in group play, like meteor. DBoS is crap on magplar imo.
    Edited by Akinos on May 15, 2018 5:38AM
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  • Checkmath
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    I saw how mad tinkerer stunned them all, alright. But there was pretty much zero advantage by that proc.
  • ShadowMonarch
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    People got no chill lol, cool vid.
  • Akinos
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    I saw how mad tinkerer stunned them all, alright. But there was pretty much zero advantage by that proc.

    I uploaded it for the laughs dude, there wasn't any advantage to a whole group of stunned DC because my group was on the other side of the tower getting zerged down like I was. The clip wasn't supposed to be serious or epic but I t was the only other example I had. If you fail to see how good tinkerer is on a outnumbered magplar then I don't know what to tell you.
    People got no chill lol, cool vid.

    IKR? Errbody being so serious today.
    Edited by Akinos on May 15, 2018 5:44AM
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  • Checkmath
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    I just try to give some advice lol. Only my opinion, what you do with it is up to you.
  • Jimmy_The_Fixer
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    Innate axiom, pirate skeleton and war maiden are all pretty meta for magplar. All top 10 magplar sets. This isn't meant to be criticism, running popular sets doesn't make you a bad player.

  • raasdal
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    Kudos to you for trying to play with Mad Tinker... But.... Why ??

    Even in the best possible scenario, on level ground, in close quarters, your Mad Tinkerer proc misses more often than it hits. Just look at the fight at around 3:00.. Two misses in a row.

    With Caluurion you would ended the fight at very first proc. (Caluurion will proc from key skills like the Gapcloser, potl, vampire bane etc.
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  • Minno
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    Innate axiom, pirate skeleton and war maiden are all pretty meta for magplar. All top 10 magplar sets. This isn't meant to be criticism, running popular sets doesn't make you a bad player.

    I think the argument is that some of those sets weren't popular and now they are. So the search for new sets > using meta.

    Pirate skeleton was ignored because on paper the minor defile sucks, but alot of Templars realized our mending passive make running pirate better than other classes.

    Mad tinkerer doesn't look terrible. It's just not for the moble Templar. And it's tough to manage where you are having for jabs and then for another proc. If magplar didn't need pirate Skeleton, you could roll a set that stuns better than mad thinkerer.
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  • danno8
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    What resource bar mod are you using there?
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    Awesome vid @Akinos

    I just recently dropped my old build I've been running for like 7 months.
    2 torugs
    5 riposte
    5 desert rose
    2 skoria
    5 light
    Its a very fun build but I'm getting the itch to try out resto backbar again.
    I've put together
    5 soulshine
    5 warmaiden
    2 skoria
    5 heavy. My damage is so much higher but learning to defend is hardcore XD lol.

    I guess after finally getting my first general rank it's time to put the big boy panties on learn to play more aggressive and learn to defend without a defense set!
    Miss the 5k spell pen though...that hurts

    I can't bring myself to use pirate skellie though. It just feels redundant equipping all those damage sets just to take away the awesome burst of skoria.

    Can't wait till next patch with jewel crafting and two set bonus resto staves!

    Awesome vid again, see you out there bro
    Edited by Baconlad on May 15, 2018 10:11PM
  • Elong
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Kudos to you for trying to play with Mad Tinker... But.... Why ??

    Because it's fun?

    We're not all cookie cutter meta twitch followers out here.
  • Akinos
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    danno8 wrote: »
    What resource bar mod are you using there?

    Bandit's User Interface.
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  • Akinos
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    Minno wrote: »
    Innate axiom, pirate skeleton and war maiden are all pretty meta for magplar. All top 10 magplar sets. This isn't meant to be criticism, running popular sets doesn't make you a bad player.
    Mad tinkerer doesn't look terrible. It's just not for the moble Templar. And it's tough to manage where you are having for jabs and then for another proc. If magplar didn't need pirate Skeleton, you could roll a set that stuns better than mad thinkerer.

    What other magicka set has a aoe cc proc? Just curious, because I don't know atm.
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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Godplar new meta :-:
    Baconlad wrote: »
    Awesome vid @Akinos

    I just recently dropped my old build I've been running for like 7 months.
    2 torugs
    5 riposte
    5 desert rose
    2 skoria
    5 light
    Its a very fun build but I'm getting the itch to try out resto backbar again.
    I've put together
    5 soulshine
    5 warmaiden
    2 skoria
    5 heavy. My damage is so much higher but learning to defend is hardcore XD lol.

    I guess after finally getting my first general rank it's time to put the big boy panties on learn to play more aggressive and learn to defend without a defense set!
    Miss the 5k spell pen though...that hurts

    I can't bring myself to use pirate skellie though. It just feels redundant equipping all those damage sets just to take away the awesome burst of skoria.

    Can't wait till next patch with jewel crafting and two set bonus resto staves!

    Awesome vid again, see you out there bro

    With ss maiden slot harness. Crit a mnb for 12k with jabs *all 4 lol. The self healing plus the ward was enough.
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Innate axiom, pirate skeleton and war maiden are all pretty meta for magplar. All top 10 magplar sets. This isn't meant to be criticism, running popular sets doesn't make you a bad player.
    Mad tinkerer doesn't look terrible. It's just not for the moble Templar. And it's tough to manage where you are having for jabs and then for another proc. If magplar didn't need pirate Skeleton, you could roll a set that stuns better than mad thinkerer.

    What other magicka set has a aoe cc proc? Just curious, because I don't know atm.

    Vicous death if you consider death a cc
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  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    Good job OP...

    I hate it when you post something, and instead of simply appreciating your build and what it can do, people immediately start trying to tell you how to improve the build and what you could do better...

    You build your character to play a certain way and when you do that, you don't give a *** about the meta and what someone else feels is more optimal...

    Your build works and works well; that's the bottomline...


    Again, good job OP...
    Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on May 16, 2018 12:55AM
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Question...what's your CP, mundus stone, and whatnot?

    Also spicy vid, Akinos!
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  • Akinos
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    Question...what's your CP, mundus stone, and whatnot?

    Also spicy vid, Akinos!

    Thanks :)
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  • Akinos
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    Good job OP...

    I hate it when you post something, and instead of simply appreciating your build and what it can do, people immediately start trying to tell you how to improve the build and what you could do better...

    You build your character to play a certain way and when you do that, you don't give a *** about the meta and what someone else feels is more optimal...

    Your build works and works well; that's the bottomline...


    Again, good job OP...

    Thank you, and well said!
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  • Minno
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Innate axiom, pirate skeleton and war maiden are all pretty meta for magplar. All top 10 magplar sets. This isn't meant to be criticism, running popular sets doesn't make you a bad player.
    Mad tinkerer doesn't look terrible. It's just not for the moble Templar. And it's tough to manage where you are having for jabs and then for another proc. If magplar didn't need pirate Skeleton, you could roll a set that stuns better than mad thinkerer.

    What other magicka set has a aoe cc proc? Just curious, because I don't know atm.

    Barahas curse. Though it's soft cc.

    Seletrex isn't mag, but it's also AOE proc cc but saves you from using a 5pc set, but you lose out on pirate Skelton :(.
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