Why no wands?
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✭✭✭I wish 2 swords Mage was still viable in pve! Even in healing. Or paladin type s&b0 -
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✭✭✭I wish also there was a re-re-work of how we move with staves. They slightly changed the stance some time back, but it's just awkward looking. (Not as bad as jabs thank goodness!)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This discussion has run on elsewhere today but I'm with the principle. I hate dual staves. But i wouldn't want wands.
1H & Rune / Gauntlet etc yes please. Dual staves is a bit ridiculous.Xbox One | EU | EP
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ZOS_HoldenCommunity RepWhile the community seems somewhat split on the subject of wands, we think they sound like a fun idea. While some may describe them as puny or dainty, wands definitely have their moments of being less dainty.
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✭ZOS_Holden wrote: »While the community seems somewhat split on the subject of wands, we think they sound like a fun idea. While some may describe them as puny or dainty, wands definitely have their moments of being less dainty.
"we think they sound like a fun idea"
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✭✭Drachenfier wrote: »A staff in ESO is just a focus, so literally anything will work - a magical sword, a scepter, a floating ball of sparkly cow poop, whatever. Just give us something else besides staves.
but why?
Variety would be nice. I get so bored with the staff. Poof! A fireball! Poof! A lightning ball! Poof! A snow ball! Poof! A... red (or is it orange?) beam of... something?1 -
Stewart1874✭✭✭✭✭I'm in favour of hands. As others have said the staves don't look great when you're running or how the character holds them. I cannot recall any use of wands in Oblivion or Skyrim so I'm doubtful they'd be friendly to any part of the story. I don't really mind though, having an alternative to staves would be nice
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TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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Most likely becaose those are featuring prominently in D&D and Harry Potter iniverses I reckon... and the elder scrolls want to be different...Why no wands?
...and then ended up being like tolkiens LotR mages. Shucks.
Since when? Since ESO, that's since when!VaranisArano wrote: »Because Elder Scrolls mages use staffs.
Remember the other TES games, where you just cast your spells with your offhand?
I know, right? I have said it before, when I kept dreaming of getting alternate options for "Spell Foci" other then wands... how cool would it be to be able to have our characters cast their castyness not with a big ole pole, but through hoisting a holy symbol, paging through an ornate spellbook, rubbing crystal balls, brandishing gemmed skulls, shaking a shamans rattle, and so on...Drachenfier wrote: »A staff in ESO is just a focus, so literally anything will work - a magical sword, a scepter, a floating ball of sparkly cow poop, whatever. Just give us something else besides staves.
Like I outlined in my discussion about weapon ideas, I would love to see spell foci as alternate magic weapon. And then... perhaps an one-handed and magic skill line as well, where they could have both wands and runestones as alternatives (maybe... one doing more damage, the other giving bonus range?)
I mean, come on, would it not be -great- to have more choices?1 -
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✭✭✭If they looked and functioned like those one-handed staves in Skyrim, I could get behind it. Imagine whipping out your Staff of Daedric Command. Yeah, that's right. You were summoned by a mortal!Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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✭✭ZOS_Holden wrote: »While the community seems somewhat split on the subject of wands, we think they sound like a fun idea. While some may describe them as puny or dainty, wands definitely have their moments of being less dainty.
That was my word - "puny"!
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Madrax573✭✭✭We have staves to give everyone the assemblage of being a magic character seeing as there isn't a true 'spell' system ESO like the other TES games. So get around it and allow every to have 'spells' they gave us staves.
All other 'spells' are class abilities.I'm a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up!0 -
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✭✭Why do people even want wands? There could be so many better types of magicka foci. Runes, Grimoires, your hands. I've never understood the fascination with casting spells with a stick, when you could cast just as well with your hands. It's because of Harry Potter isn't it?PC - NACP 1125
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✭✭Bare handed magic please.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.2 -
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✭ZOS_Holden wrote: »While the community seems somewhat split on the subject of wands, we think they sound like a fun idea. While some may describe them as puny or dainty, wands definitely have their moments of being less dainty.
DUAL WELDING WANDS CONFIRMED OHH YHEA
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Marginis✭✭✭✭✭While I don't think ESO necessarily needs to add wands, it has been an oft requested feature that there be a one-handed magic weapon, such as a wand, gauntlet, totem, or some other such accoutrement. The lack of this is probably part of the reason why frost staves were made to be more defensive weapons, as prior, mages were lacking any such defensive option, and why two handed weapons are soon going to be considered two pieces of equipment for set bonuses. These things compensated for the lack of a dual wield or one hand and shield option for magic users, ignoring the fabled spellswords that ruled TESV (and for that matter, the possibility of archers with a one handed crossbow on one hand and magic on the other).
This would allow a lot more variability in the game, and I think ZOS realizes that, but keep in mind, this would singlehandedly be the biggest change to ESO combat we've ever seen, as numerous abilities and existing weapon types would have to be touched and rebalanced, and that is to say nothing about how the game is not terribly well designed around hybrids, as min/maxing to magicka or stamina exclusively is more effective, so the entire combat system as we know it may have to be changed. ZOS has already made significant compromises to achieve similar results to what introducing one-handed magic weapons would, or make hybrids viable (albeit niche), but ignoring small changes like this, in favor of adding just one thing (one handed magic weapons), carries high risk and requires a huge investment.
This is not to say one handed magic weapons would be a bad thing - if done right I think they would be absolutely amazing -ZOS_Holden wrote: »
- but it's worth considering all the consequences, if we're taking this seriously.
Sorry if I'm being the bearer of bad news. Honestly, I think it'd be great to be able to use magic without a staff. I mean, if nothing else, ZOS could just implement wands, gauntlets, totems, or some other such accoutrement as another two handed magic weapon, which might be another small step towards what we want without carrying the immediate risk of breaking the game.
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Potenza✭✭✭✭✭I like the idea of using a wand with a shield. A wand can be as powerful as they can make them. It would create more build diversity.0 -
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✭✭There are wands in the game, but they call them swords, maces etc. Very little of the combat is done with the weapon, most of it is magical effects from your skill bars.0 -
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✭Wands? No thank you...holding a spell in your bare hand worked just fine for earlier elder scrolls game...and for gods sake, PLEASE dont make carry around a stupid looking book or runestone. Give me one handed sword and bare hand or dual wield bare hands(similar to say overload) with particle effect of some sort for a spell(I want a true magicka tank that uses stamina only for sprinting and roll dodging.Edited by josiahva on May 9, 2018 4:46PM1 -
gnarlyvandal✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Because Elder Scrolls mages use staffs.
Hmm. Think I have used a sword and spells in every Elder Scrolls game I have ever played, except ESO.
I don’t care as much about carrying just a staff as I used to, and I know DW magsorc at some point has been a thing, but more options for magicka classes would be nice; carrying a staff on my back that seems to conveniently hover there kinda breaks the immersion0 -
gnarlyvandal✭✭✭SoftcoverGore47 wrote: »Gandalf used a staff. End of discussion.
Staff and a sword, dual wielded.
https://goo.gl/images/57eubv
Edited by gnarlyvandal on May 9, 2018 5:48PM1 -
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✭gnarlyvandal wrote: »SoftcoverGore47 wrote: »Gandalf used a staff. End of discussion.
Staff and a sword, dual wielded.
https://goo.gl/images/57eubv
Due to a UI glitch the other day in vet scalecaller my tank got his weapon skins reversed somehow so I was puncturing with an ice staff and shooting balls of ice out of the tip of my sword, does that count?1 -
JJBoomer✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_Holden wrote: »While the community seems somewhat split on the subject of wands, we think they sound like a fun idea. While some may describe them as puny or dainty, wands definitely have their moments of being less dainty.
omg yes please do it! I would love for my magicka toons to wield wands! I am all on board for wand, or any kind of 1H magicka weapons0 -
Avalon✭✭✭✭✭ForsakenSin wrote: »ZOS_Holden wrote: »While the community seems somewhat split on the subject of wands, we think they sound like a fun idea. While some may describe them as puny or dainty, wands definitely have their moments of being less dainty.
DUAL WELDING WANDS CONFIRMED OHH YHEA
And, THIS is why wands are awesome! Because in TES, we could cast from hand (not object), but, if we MUST have an object (for whatever reason, maybe programming reasons, who knows), then, we should at least be able to mix and match! Fire/Ice, Shock/Rejuv, etc etc... can't do that with staves.0 -
gnarlyvandal✭✭✭gnarlyvandal wrote: »SoftcoverGore47 wrote: »Gandalf used a staff. End of discussion.
Staff and a sword, dual wielded.
https://goo.gl/images/57eubv
Due to a UI glitch the other day in vet scalecaller my tank got his weapon skins reversed somehow so I was puncturing with an ice staff and shooting balls of ice out of the tip of my sword, does that count?
Nope, but thats awesome! Now I think about it, a melee staff skill (stam morph?) could be fun to have xD
Would still rather see more mage options thoughZOS_Holden wrote: »While the community seems somewhat split on the subject of wands, we think they sound like a fun idea. While some may describe them as puny or dainty, wands definitely have their moments of being less dainty.
omg yes please do it! I would love for my magicka toons to wield wands! I am all on board for wand, or any kind of 1H magicka weapons
Please xD0
