Change to Master and Maelstrom as follows:

Asardes · May 2018

No (because I dont like change)

Rather add hard modes for both and add a better version for that. But would get pretty bad reactions from players, since they'll be forced to grind those again, and none of them is pleasant:
- vMA is kinda fun the first 100 times you do it, but then it becomes boring AF, and most people ran way past that mark in search for that illusive sharpened inferno staff, and then they got it after HotR patch when infused or nirn became BiS

- vDSA is long and tedious, that's why it's so damn hard to find 3 other people to run it. That's why I chose to retrait basically all weapons I got from there, rather than wait for the next run.
So I would like to see hard modes, but with different rewards. For example add gold jewels from the arena sets in the final chest. Normal is braindead easy on both, so it shouldn't reward anything on top of what already does. Even if they added "imperfect" weapons those would be worse than what you could craft, since the ones that matter, namely bow & destro, would be weaker than what you could already craft.

What they should do instead is to buff those in a way that makes them competitive, by adding an 1 piece bonus in line with other sets. For example add 129 weapon damage to Maelstrom bow, 2H, 2W, 129 spell damage to destruction staff, 833 spell critical to restoration staff etc. Same for Master, for example add 1096 maximum stamina to bow, 1096 maximum magicka to staff. It made sense when they removed those bonuses since the enchant was turned into a set bonus, but it doesn't make sense now when 2H weapons will count as 2 pieces. They should add similar bonuses to Asylum weapons, but maybe different ones like 1500 spell or physical penetration.

Beardimus · May 2018

No (because I dont like change)

swirve wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Biased poll. Honnestly no need to change this.
VMA is a good challenge for people to aspire to, and its not actually that hard if commited to.

NMA has enough rewards for its level of ease.

Where did I say change vMA or anything on its difficulty?

I said change the rewards.

This fits with the view of some that maelstrom and master weapons have been relatively nerfed due to buffing other areas.

The suggestion is a logical scenario based on options that ZoS have actually implemented.

I didn't say you did, I'm saying no need to change what drops. even a nerfed weopon version should not be given out on normal.

VMA is achievable enough that if someone wants the weapon they can get it.

I would condone adding a hard mode for a better Weopon, yes. But zero need to give out a weaker version for nMA.

hydrocynus · May 2018

Yes

grannas211 wrote: »

Only change I wanna see is giving the spell damage and Max Magicka back on the respective weapons.

I voted yes for this exact reason

VilniusNastavnik · May 2018

Yes

I cant be bothered with vMA. Prefer the second 5 piece set all the time over a 5/5/2/1 load out. It's just a nightmare with oceanic ping.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO · May 2018

Why not a Perfected Master Staff for 10x Undaunted keys and 20x bananas.

Please, do contact support, ask them to return your money and get Destiny.

hydrocynus · May 2018

Yes

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

Why not a Perfected Master Staff for 10x Undaunted keys and 20x bananas.

Please, do contact support, ask them to return your money and get Destiny.

Because bananas don't drop equally across faction zones. This favors Aldmeri Dominion and their monkey house.

swirve · May 2018

Yes

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

I cant be bothered with vMA. Prefer the second 5 piece set all the time over a 5/5/2/1 load out. It's just a nightmare with oceanic ping.

I feel for you... you must be 300 to 1000 ping... it will be like extra HM doing it with that disadvantage.

swirve · May 2018

Yes

Beardimus wrote: »

swirve wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Biased poll. Honnestly no need to change this.
VMA is a good challenge for people to aspire to, and its not actually that hard if commited to.

NMA has enough rewards for its level of ease.

Where did I say change vMA or anything on its difficulty?

I said change the rewards.

This fits with the view of some that maelstrom and master weapons have been relatively nerfed due to buffing other areas.

The suggestion is a logical scenario based on options that ZoS have actually implemented.

I didn't say you did, I'm saying no need to change what drops. even a nerfed weopon version should not be given out on normal.

VMA is achievable enough that if someone wants the weapon they can get it.

I would condone adding a hard mode for a better Weopon, yes. But zero need to give out a weaker version for nMA.

You view is reasonable imo.

swirve · May 2018

Yes

Xoelarasizerer wrote: »

Because I don't like unnecessary change.
If it aint broke, don't fix it.

In your opinion it is not broke.

Tabbycat · May 2018

Biased poll is biased.

Next time just add the following disclaimer to your polls:

"You can either agree with me or you can be wrong."

swirve · May 2018

Yes

Vahrokh wrote: »

swirve wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

swirve wrote: »

Yes:

Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

No:

Because change scares me.

What a bad and biased poll.

Of course the answer is NO.

ZOS are greedy, not completely stupid. They have to leave some incentive to purchase Wrothgar DLC. Since more and more gear is getting ahead of Julianos, vMA stuff is the only thing still giving unreplaceable value to the DLC.

Also, changing this would be a hard slap in face to those who spent hundreds of hours and deaths to achieve the Flawless title.

You are not making sense.

Where did I say what has been earned would be depreciated?

The current crop could be upgraded to perfected and thus youll have an eveb further buffed version.

Do think before you post, please.

You are the only one creating a bad poll and calling people just because they dare to think different than you.

Sadly, I have born in a country where people demand everything served on a silver platter, because they are entitled to everything just because they breath. Effort, achievement and advantages for one's hard work, are seen as a curse.
I've left that country to their sad, flawed destiny and never looked back. I've worked my butt out and now, at 47 old, I live on a tropical island with all the wealth and recognition I have HARD earned.

I don't know if the poll is made by a compatriot, but it really looks like it.

Said that I am strongly against "perfected" stuff, because it comes as a customer hostile ZOS attitude.

They sell you this "perfected" concept as an excuse to create tiny trials where the only content involves bosses joining each other in a crappy mess.

vMOL is Content. vHOF is Content. vAS is a tiny and pathetic instance that could be justified only because it came with a cheap game extension. Now we are going to get another tiny instance but with a full cost expansion.

All of this "sugar coated" by the "perfected" marketeer gimmik.

Thanks for the life story. Not needed, but nice none the less.

Back to the subject... Summerset will have Perfected...it is your opinion the system is gimicky and maybe ypu have not played many MMOs that have similiar systems...

swirve · May 2018

Yes

Tabbycat wrote: »

Biased poll is biased.

Next time just add the following disclaimer to your polls:

"You can either agree with me or you can be wrong."

Where did I say you were wrong to select No or even imply this?

So if you dont like change then you are wrong... thats quite an imaginative leap you took then...

Zinaroth · May 2018

Vahrokh wrote: »

I've worked my butt out and now, at 47 old, I live on a tropical island with all the wealth and recognition I have HARD earned.

Sounds great! I wouldn't want to live on a tropical island personally - I can't stand the heat - but I am happy for you that all your hard work paid off the way you wanted it to. I also hope that you appreciate having the ability to realize your dreams; sadly not all are born with the capabilities to do so. And not all who have the capabilities, and work hard, see it pay off. That is just the way of the world. A lot of things are in your power to change or adapt to, but most aren't.

A little bit off topic, I know. Just wanted to offer a varied view on your ideology, which is really great since it's what drives an economy; hard work and effort. Unfortunately it is not a possibility for everyone even if they have the willpower - and I hope the country you cam from, and the one you moved to, recognize that, and help the people in need appropriately in ways necessary for them to also lead a good life. Even if a minor, but loud, demographic act very self-entitled.

I praise that I was born in a country with some of the best welfare on the planet every day. Where I get paid to study. Along with having parents with the proper social surplus and adequate knowledge on children and learning to give me a proper upkeep that made me capable of taking my master's degree - securing a foundation for myself, my newborn son and my less fortunate fiancee (in terms of health, not intelligence) for the rest of our time together (hopefully).

GreenhaloX · May 2018

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Maelstrom is already a cake walk just get better dude its not hard it’s actually really easy if you actually try.

Ahh.. sure. Climbing Mount Everest is also a cake walk. It is also so very easy if you actually try. Ha ha. You go.. you keyboard warrior.

Do what they want with Maelstrom or Master's. I don't use it. I've been fine with the weapons/sets from normal PvE land. Them Flawless Conquerors and whatnot bad-asses of ESO still die just fine in PvP.

Enslaved · May 2018

Yes

Vahrokh wrote: »

swirve wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

swirve wrote: »

Yes:

Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

No:

Because change scares me.

What a bad and biased poll.

Of course the answer is NO.

ZOS are greedy, not completely stupid. They have to leave some incentive to purchase Wrothgar DLC. Since more and more gear is getting ahead of Julianos, vMA stuff is the only thing still giving unreplaceable value to the DLC.

Also, changing this would be a hard slap in face to those who spent hundreds of hours and deaths to achieve the Flawless title.

You are not making sense.

Where did I say what has been earned would be depreciated?

The current crop could be upgraded to perfected and thus youll have an eveb further buffed version.

Do think before you post, please.

You are the only one creating a bad poll and calling people just because they dare to think different than you.

Sadly, I have born in a country where people demand everything served on a silver platter, because they are entitled to everything just because they breath. Effort, achievement and advantages for one's hard work, are seen as a curse.
I've left that country to their sad, flawed destiny and never looked back. I've worked my butt out and now, at 47 old, I live on a tropical island with all the wealth and recognition I have HARD earned.

I don't know if the poll is made by a compatriot, but it really looks like it.

Said that I am strongly against "perfected" stuff, because it comes as a customer hostile ZOS attitude.

They sell you this "perfected" concept as an excuse to create tiny trials where the only content involves bosses joining each other in a crappy mess.

vMOL is Content. vHOF is Content. vAS is a tiny and pathetic instance that could be justified only because it came with a cheap game extension. Now we are going to get another tiny instance but with a full cost expansion.

All of this "sugar coated" by the "perfected" marketeer gimmik.

So, your hard earned vMA weapons are pretty much crap now, and you bash person who wanna make them great once again. And all that just because somehow you would feel less unique or whatever because some less skillful ppl would have weaker versions of weapons you have now.

This is the logic of a common 21th century westerner. I bet you would enjoy if somebody came and took half of what you have earned irl just to see other ppl that live around you in absolute poverty, so you can "dominate" them. Sad ppl are sad.

Bbsample197 · May 2018

No (because I dont like change)

Yes drop maelstrom and master weapons on normal only without there altering ability, so i can still show it off to people that i did VMA just by equipping the weapon, this should be a thing, i mean youre getting a reward based on the hard work you gave to it.

Getern · May 2018

No (because I dont like change)

Maelstrom Arena, one of a few Casual Resistant area. Make it stay that way. And I dont care if u want the weapons but you are incompetent enough to get them right now. Not even mentioning that its uncomparably easy to what it was on the begining.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO · May 2018

Any casual/very incompetent player can complete veteran trials and have access to practically all gear, trading it, selling it, re-traiting it, improving it.

Where were you guys when ZOS was taking down one by one the good things of this game?
There isn't much left that requires skills.

The Malestrom is next in line. It's just a matter of time.

ZOS_JesC · May 2018

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