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  • Judas Helviaryn
    Judas Helviaryn
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    No (because I dont like change)
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)
  • swirve
    swirve
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    Yes
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)
  • Judas Helviaryn
    Judas Helviaryn
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    No (because I dont like change)
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    Edited by Judas Helviaryn on May 8, 2018 6:23AM
  • swirve
    swirve
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    Yes
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg

    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
  • Judas Helviaryn
    Judas Helviaryn
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    No (because I dont like change)
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg

    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much

    i-can-play-that-game-too.jpg

    And in the spirit of this biased thread, because apparently my vote isn't enough..
    Earn your way like everyone else. Cheap shorcuts get you nowhere but the bottom rung.

    That is, to say.. Nowhere.
    Edited by Judas Helviaryn on May 8, 2018 6:28AM
  • swirve
    swirve
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    Yes
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg

    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much

    i-can-play-that-game-too.jpg

    Memes are so weak my friend.

    You adhommed instead of discussing the subject and then continued to be hostile.

    I will continue to hold ESO forum trolls to a standard of being correct and on subject.

    You are free to return to your cave :)
  • Judas Helviaryn
    Judas Helviaryn
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    No (because I dont like change)
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg

    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much

    i-can-play-that-game-too.jpg

    Memes are so weak my friend.

    You adhommed instead of discussing the subject and then continued to be hostile.

    I will continue to hold ESO forum trolls to a standard of being correct and on subject.

    You are free to return to your cave :)

    Let me reiterate for you.
    And in the spirit of this biased thread, because apparently my vote isn't enough..
    Earn your way like everyone else. Cheap shorcuts get you nowhere but the bottom rung.

    That is, to say.. Nowhere.

    So far, I haven't seen a counterargument contributed by you, only gaslighting and butchering of my native language.

    how-dare-you-sir-how-dare-you.jpg

    I shall await that fateful day. :hushed:
    Edited by Judas Helviaryn on May 8, 2018 6:35AM
  • swirve
    swirve
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    Yes
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg

    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much

    i-can-play-that-game-too.jpg

    Memes are so weak my friend.

    You adhommed instead of discussing the subject and then continued to be hostile.

    I will continue to hold ESO forum trolls to a standard of being correct and on subject.

    You are free to return to your cave :)

    Let me reiterate for you.
    And in the spirit of this biased thread, because apparently my vote isn't enough..
    Earn your way like everyone else. Cheap shorcuts get you nowhere but the bottom rung.

    That is, to say.. Nowhere.

    Cheap short cuts... did you even read the original subject.

    Nerfed versions for normal
    Upgraded versions for vet (as has been asked)

    Perfected is the standard ESO have been adopting.

    Do you even know what you are talking about?

    Cheap short cuts to a nerfed version...lol

    Think my friend :)
  • Judas Helviaryn
    Judas Helviaryn
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    No (because I dont like change)
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg

    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much

    i-can-play-that-game-too.jpg

    Memes are so weak my friend.

    You adhommed instead of discussing the subject and then continued to be hostile.

    I will continue to hold ESO forum trolls to a standard of being correct and on subject.

    You are free to return to your cave :)

    Let me reiterate for you.
    And in the spirit of this biased thread, because apparently my vote isn't enough..
    Earn your way like everyone else. Cheap shorcuts get you nowhere but the bottom rung.

    That is, to say.. Nowhere.

    Cheap short cuts... did you even read the original subject.

    Nerfed versions for normal
    Upgraded versions for vet (as has been asked)

    Perfected is the standard ESO have been adopting.

    Do you even know what you are talking about?

    Cheap short cuts to a nerfed version...lol

    Think my friend :)

    Indeed, cheap shortcuts. Inferior versions would follow the same vein as Asylum weapons, namely in only minor differences for balance reasons. That minor stat boost from imperfect to perfect won't matter much to the kind of underachiever who only shoots for the bottom rung, screaming all the while that he be given more than every opportunity his peers have.

    You're so much better off learning how to complete vMA.
    Edited by Judas Helviaryn on May 8, 2018 6:39AM
  • swirve
    swirve
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    Yes
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg

    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much

    i-can-play-that-game-too.jpg

    Memes are so weak my friend.

    You adhommed instead of discussing the subject and then continued to be hostile.

    I will continue to hold ESO forum trolls to a standard of being correct and on subject.

    You are free to return to your cave :)

    Let me reiterate for you.
    And in the spirit of this biased thread, because apparently my vote isn't enough..
    Earn your way like everyone else. Cheap shorcuts get you nowhere but the bottom rung.

    That is, to say.. Nowhere.

    Cheap short cuts... did you even read the original subject.

    Nerfed versions for normal
    Upgraded versions for vet (as has been asked)

    Perfected is the standard ESO have been adopting.

    Do you even know what you are talking about?

    Cheap short cuts to a nerfed version...lol

    Think my friend :)

    Indeed, cheap shortcuts. Inferior versions would follow the same vein as Asylum weapons, namely in only minor differences for balance reasons. That minor stat boost from imperfect to perfect won't matter much to the kind of underachiever who only shoots for the bottom rung, screaming all the while that he be given more than every opportunity his peers have.

    You're so much better off learning how to complete vMA.

    Where did I say you shouldnt learn to complete vMA.

    'Shortcuts' to inferior weapons is how the game operates, do you even play ESO?

    Non sets are the easiest to get
    Then most dungeon sets
    Then trials sets.

    Also further perfected is coming in Summerset.

    You may for whatever reason not like perfected but the better gear for harder content is fundamental in the game.

    Also what is this nonsense you posted "That minor stat boost from imperfect to perfect won't matter much to the kind of underachiever who only shoots for the bottom rung, screaming all the while that he be given more than every opportunity his peers gave"

    You have issues buddy, condescending to players who choose how they want to play, who are progressing through the game etc... smacks of an elitism and a complex of screw others who are beneath me... which oddly as an overcapped player i find it amusing you try to direct this at anyone.
  • Judas Helviaryn
    Judas Helviaryn
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    No (because I dont like change)
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

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    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much

    i-can-play-that-game-too.jpg

    Memes are so weak my friend.

    You adhommed instead of discussing the subject and then continued to be hostile.

    I will continue to hold ESO forum trolls to a standard of being correct and on subject.

    You are free to return to your cave :)

    Let me reiterate for you.
    And in the spirit of this biased thread, because apparently my vote isn't enough..
    Earn your way like everyone else. Cheap shorcuts get you nowhere but the bottom rung.

    That is, to say.. Nowhere.

    Cheap short cuts... did you even read the original subject.

    Nerfed versions for normal
    Upgraded versions for vet (as has been asked)

    Perfected is the standard ESO have been adopting.

    Do you even know what you are talking about?

    Cheap short cuts to a nerfed version...lol

    Think my friend :)

    Indeed, cheap shortcuts. Inferior versions would follow the same vein as Asylum weapons, namely in only minor differences for balance reasons. That minor stat boost from imperfect to perfect won't matter much to the kind of underachiever who only shoots for the bottom rung, screaming all the while that he be given more than every opportunity his peers have.

    You're so much better off learning how to complete vMA.

    Where did I say you shouldnt learn to complete vMA.

    'Shortcuts' to inferior weapons is how the game operates, do you even play ESO?

    Non sets are the easiest to get
    Then most dungeon sets
    Then trials sets.

    Also further perfected is coming in Summerset.

    You may for whatever reason not like perfected but the better gear for harder content is fundamental in the game.

    Also what is this nonsense you posted "That minor stat boost from imperfect to perfect won't matter much to the kind of underachiever who only shoots for the bottom rung, screaming all the while that he be given more than every opportunity his peers gave"

    You have issues buddy, condescending to players who choose how they want to play, who are progressing through the game etc... smacks of an elitism and a complex of screw others who are beneath me... which oddly as an overcapped player i find it amusing you try to direct this at anyone.

    My friend, you are still projecting. I understand it's a defense mechanism, everybody is prone to it, but you've gotta learn to master yourself if you want to have any meaningful discourse with your peers.

    Now, I'll heed your wish and leave for my cave. I can see this one's occupado.
  • swirve
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    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

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    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

    Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
    (Just like everyone else.)

    Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

    Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

    It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

    You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

    "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

    Enjoy :)

    Sorry! I figured you missed it, so I've re-pasted your own quotes here for you.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    Still stuck I see... will you discuss the topic that is clearly in the subject or keep deflecting and evading...

    :)

    Well I figured you just wanted a fight, considering how you're jumping down peoples' throats who vote "No, because change scares me" on your poll. Isn't that what you really want? That's why you keep responding, right?

    00ea13fbce29c357551d9aeddca1bc91.jpg

    Who asked you to fight... oh you figured.

    So you decided to start a fight because you didnt like the options of the poll and that you also decided to fight on the behalf of others.

    So in effect you brought nothing to the thread but hostility. Shall i repeat your adhoms?

    Be cool my friend :)
    swirve wrote: »
    Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me
    .
    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
    Biased opinion...
    You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

    Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

    You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

    Projection much

    i-can-play-that-game-too.jpg

    Memes are so weak my friend.

    You adhommed instead of discussing the subject and then continued to be hostile.

    I will continue to hold ESO forum trolls to a standard of being correct and on subject.

    You are free to return to your cave :)

    Let me reiterate for you.
    And in the spirit of this biased thread, because apparently my vote isn't enough..
    Earn your way like everyone else. Cheap shorcuts get you nowhere but the bottom rung.

    That is, to say.. Nowhere.

    Cheap short cuts... did you even read the original subject.

    Nerfed versions for normal
    Upgraded versions for vet (as has been asked)

    Perfected is the standard ESO have been adopting.

    Do you even know what you are talking about?

    Cheap short cuts to a nerfed version...lol

    Think my friend :)

    Indeed, cheap shortcuts. Inferior versions would follow the same vein as Asylum weapons, namely in only minor differences for balance reasons. That minor stat boost from imperfect to perfect won't matter much to the kind of underachiever who only shoots for the bottom rung, screaming all the while that he be given more than every opportunity his peers have.

    You're so much better off learning how to complete vMA.

    Where did I say you shouldnt learn to complete vMA.

    'Shortcuts' to inferior weapons is how the game operates, do you even play ESO?

    Non sets are the easiest to get
    Then most dungeon sets
    Then trials sets.

    Also further perfected is coming in Summerset.

    You may for whatever reason not like perfected but the better gear for harder content is fundamental in the game.

    Also what is this nonsense you posted "That minor stat boost from imperfect to perfect won't matter much to the kind of underachiever who only shoots for the bottom rung, screaming all the while that he be given more than every opportunity his peers gave"

    You have issues buddy, condescending to players who choose how they want to play, who are progressing through the game etc... smacks of an elitism and a complex of screw others who are beneath me... which oddly as an overcapped player i find it amusing you try to direct this at anyone.

    My friend, you are still projecting. I understand it's a defense mechanism, everybody is prone to it, but you've gotta learn to master yourself if you want to have any meaningful discourse with your peers.

    Now, I'll heed your wish and leave for my cave. I can see this one's occupado.

    Probably best you head back to your cave after your elitist insult to all the underachievers of the game... nice try attempting to gloss over it by the way.

    Adieu my friend :)

    P.s if a subject offends you, scroll on, scroll on...
  • Enslaved
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    Yes
    If they would buff vMA weapons Im all for it.
  • Zinaroth
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    swirve wrote: »
    Poll seems kinda biased...

    Yes and no is biased?

    A yes with only your idea and a no accompanied by a condescending remark is biased, yes.

    But I agree they need to do something about the weaponry from Dragonstar, Maelstrom and Asylum.
  • xYureka
    xYureka
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    No (because I dont like change)
    1. I feel like I'm voting on a passive aggressive website that goes like "Yes I would like to subscribe" and "No I don't like fun". Pretty sure most people came across that kind of website before.

    2. From reading the thread, the agenda of this poll is very clear - op could not complete vMA and still want the weapon. If I am wrong I apologize, but I would like to see proofs if I am.

    3. The time it takes for you to make this thread and insult people on it will probably help you clear a few more stages on vMA. If you really want the weapon go and work more and talk less.

    4. The idea is pretty bad. Pretty sure the reason has already been discussed.
  • swirve
    swirve
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    Yes
    xYureka wrote: »
    1. I feel like I'm voting on a passive aggressive website that goes like "Yes I would like to subscribe" and "No I don't like fun". Pretty sure most people came across that kind of website before.

    2. From reading the thread, the agenda of this poll is very clear - op could not complete vMA and still want the weapon. If I am wrong I apologize, but I would like to see proofs if I am.

    3. The time it takes for you to make this thread and insult people on it will probably help you clear a few more stages on vMA. If you really want the weapon go and work more and talk less.

    4. The idea is pretty bad. Pretty sure the reason has already been discussed.

    A whole lot of fantasy, speculation and projection.

    Sadly no real substance :(

    Though I assume you are also directing the 'bad idea' at ZoS as well as the perfected system came from them :)
  • swirve
    swirve
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    Yes
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Poll seems kinda biased...

    Yes and no is biased?

    A yes with only your idea and a no accompanied by a condescending remark is biased, yes.

    But I agree they need to do something about the weaponry from Dragonstar, Maelstrom and Asylum.

    How is it condescending. Oh that would be your feelings.

    The subject is clear and a vote for no is a vote for no change.

    You dislike the proposed change and or may be scared of the change per the subject.
  • swirve
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    Yes
    Enslaved wrote: »
    If they would buff vMA weapons Im all for it.

    Which is what a number of people have asked... this fits with the perfected system albeit they would need to nerf the variants that went with normal mode as that would be too easy.

    Alternatively they could create a HM version of vet and make everyone refarm for perfected.
  • Beardimus
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    No (because I dont like change)
    Biased poll. Honnestly no need to change this.
    VMA is a good challenge for people to aspire to, and its not actually that hard if commited to.

    NMA has enough rewards for its level of ease.
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  • Enslaved
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    Yes
    swirve wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    If they would buff vMA weapons Im all for it.

    Which is what a number of people have asked... this fits with the perfected system albeit they would need to nerf the variants that went with normal mode as that would be too easy.

    Alternatively they could create a HM version of vet and make everyone refarm for perfected.

    For example, slight nerf to current vMA weapons would make them good for normal drops. And good old vMA weapons with bonus to weapon and spell damage would make great reward for vMA once again.
  • swirve
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    Yes
    Beardimus wrote: »
    Biased poll. Honnestly no need to change this.
    VMA is a good challenge for people to aspire to, and its not actually that hard if commited to.

    NMA has enough rewards for its level of ease.

    Where did I say change vMA or anything on its difficulty?

    I said change the rewards.

    This fits with the view of some that maelstrom and master weapons have been relatively nerfed due to buffing other areas.

    The suggestion is a logical scenario based on options that ZoS have actually implemented.
  • Vapirko
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    No (because I dont like change)
    No, but honestly what does it matter? Why the hell would you want a nerfed version of any vMA weapons? They’re basically useless now aside from the bow and lightning staff and it wouldn’t take much to kick those out now that one handed weapons are worth two set pieces. But yes they should rebuff vMA weapons, that I agree with. That was the dumbest most uncalled for nerf. They were strong but not OP at all, and the sustain nerf already made the dw useless. With the gap closer nerfs and 2H count as two set prices the original vMA weapons could still be worth it if they rebuffed. Alas they’re all but useless.
    Edited by Vapirko on May 8, 2018 8:04AM
  • OOJIMMY
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    No (because I dont like change)
    There should be good stuff locked behind difficult, they already made significant improvements to the vma drops since release, and it's not even that difficult.
    If I can run it on my stamplar build that's slightly off meta with 300+ ping there are no excuses
  • Vahrokh
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    swirve wrote: »
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.

    What a bad and biased poll.

    Of course the answer is NO.

    ZOS are greedy, not completely stupid. They have to leave some incentive to purchase Wrothgar DLC. Since more and more gear is getting ahead of Julianos, vMA stuff is the only thing still giving unreplaceable value to the DLC.

    Also, changing this would be a hard slap in face to those who spent hundreds of hours and deaths to achieve the Flawless title.
  • swirve
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    Yes
    Vapirko wrote: »
    No, but honestly what does it matter? Why the hell would you want a nerfed version of any vMA weapons? They’re basically useless now aside from the bow and lightning staff and it wouldn’t take much to kick those out now that one handed weapons are worth two set pieces. But yes they should rebuff vMA weapons, that I agree with. That was the dumbest most uncalled for nerf. They were strong but not OP at all, and the sustain nerf already made the dw useless. With the gap closer nerfs and 2H count as two set prices the original vMA weapons could still be worth it if they rebuffed. Alas they’re all but useless.

    Not everyone is BiS... and some people are even sub 300CP and so nerfed versions of Master and Maelstrom may still be valued.

    A buffed version should be considered for a HM version of vet, given the number of people posting how easy vMA and vDSA is... it seems strange they are better than trials sets from harder content and ppl want them to be even stronger.
  • swirve
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    Yes
    OOJIMMY wrote: »
    There should be good stuff locked behind difficult, they already made significant improvements to the vma drops since release, and it's not even that difficult.
    If I can run it on my stamplar build that's slightly off meta with 300+ ping there are no excuses

    Then the rewards are disproportionate. vMA buffed gear should be behind a HM version... otherwise its cheap... if by your suggestion of ability + 300 ping you can obtain the strongestgear in the game.
  • swirve
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    Yes
    Vahrokh wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.

    What a bad and biased poll.

    Of course the answer is NO.

    ZOS are greedy, not completely stupid. They have to leave some incentive to purchase Wrothgar DLC. Since more and more gear is getting ahead of Julianos, vMA stuff is the only thing still giving unreplaceable value to the DLC.

    Also, changing this would be a hard slap in face to those who spent hundreds of hours and deaths to achieve the Flawless title.

    You are not making sense.

    Where did I say what has been earned would be depreciated?

    The current crop could be upgraded to perfected and thus youll have an eveb further buffed version.

    Do think before you post, please.
  • Xoelarasizerer
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    No (because I dont like change)
    Because I don't like unnecessary change.
    If it aint broke, don't fix it.
    Edited by Xoelarasizerer on May 8, 2018 8:28AM
  • DPShiro
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    No (because I dont like change)
    No, and not because your biased reason that’s included.
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  • Vahrokh
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    swirve wrote: »
    Vahrokh wrote: »
    swirve wrote: »
    Yes:

    Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

    Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

    No:

    Because change scares me.

    What a bad and biased poll.

    Of course the answer is NO.

    ZOS are greedy, not completely stupid. They have to leave some incentive to purchase Wrothgar DLC. Since more and more gear is getting ahead of Julianos, vMA stuff is the only thing still giving unreplaceable value to the DLC.

    Also, changing this would be a hard slap in face to those who spent hundreds of hours and deaths to achieve the Flawless title.

    You are not making sense.

    Where did I say what has been earned would be depreciated?

    The current crop could be upgraded to perfected and thus youll have an eveb further buffed version.

    Do think before you post, please.

    You are the only one creating a bad poll and calling people just because they dare to think different than you.

    Sadly, I have born in a country where people demand everything served on a silver platter, because they are entitled to everything just because they breath. Effort, achievement and advantages for one's hard work, are seen as a curse.
    I've left that country to their sad, flawed destiny and never looked back. I've worked my butt out and now, at 47 old, I live on a tropical island with all the wealth and recognition I have HARD earned.

    I don't know if the poll is made by a compatriot, but it really looks like it.


    Said that I am strongly against "perfected" stuff, because it comes as a customer hostile ZOS attitude.

    They sell you this "perfected" concept as an excuse to create tiny trials where the only content involves bosses joining each other in a crappy mess.

    vMOL is Content. vHOF is Content. vAS is a tiny and pathetic instance that could be justified only because it came with a cheap game extension. Now we are going to get another tiny instance but with a full cost expansion.

    All of this "sugar coated" by the "perfected" marketeer gimmik.
    Edited by Vahrokh on May 8, 2018 8:35AM
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