Jewelcrafting master writs should be 10x their writ value

Aliyavana · May 2018

Or essentially will become decon crap. Ain't gonna do them whatsoever if the loss of profits is higher than the gain

Oakmontowls_ESO · May 2018

I think you mean multiply times 10 like they did with all the materials

redspecter23 · May 2018

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

I think you mean multiply times 10 like they did with all the materials

Pretty much this. If it takes 80 legendary upgrade mats, there is no way anyone is doing a legendary master jewelry writ for anything under 1000 vouchers and that's still iffy. The epic one I saw posted is for 9 vouchers. It appears as though there was some sort of communication breakdown between the one in charge of writ reward balancing and the one in charge of the material cost. I really hope someone at ZOS is going to look at this before it goes live. It would be a shame if jewelry master writs are worthless due to low returns compared to your investment cost.

Aliyavana · May 2018

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

I think you mean multiply times 10 like they did with all the materials

Fixed

Tyrobag · May 2018

Or they should fix the materials so they drop properly, not this 1/10 of a piece of a piece BS. From what we're seeing on the PTS, jewelry crafting is outright not worth it.

DaveMoeDee · May 2018

I am choosing to assume that they have a plan to make the mats more common down the road in future updates/DLC.

ezio45 · May 2018

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/410866/some-perspective#latest

Did a post explaining the problem with at least the gold upgrade part of jewelry crafting

If they dont do something, first of there will be almost noone actually upgrade to gold, i explained it in that post but under extremely ideal conditions getting the mats for 3 gold jewelry will take 3.5+ days of gameplay running trials or 10+ days of game play farming.

also even if seams are as available as the regular material nodes (which from everything ive heard about the pts their not) there 10x as rare, that would make one refined plating cost around 60-70k ps4 na making 8 cost around 520,000 IN A STABLE AVAILABLE MARKET which will not be for a long long time if ever with how in demand/ hard to acquire they are.

Whiphid · May 2018

Are the regular writs as bad too?

WhiteCoatSyndrome · May 2018

Whiphid wrote: »

Are the regular writs as bad too?

@Whiphid You mean the ones you do for surveys? The ones I've done asked for white items with no traits, same as the other crafts. So you'd just need the ounces of the appropriate tier.

Whiphid · May 2018

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Whiphid wrote: »

Are the regular writs as bad too?

@Whiphid You mean the ones you do for surveys? The ones I've done asked for white items with no traits, same as the other crafts. So you'd just need the ounces of the appropriate tier.

And how's the rewards? Surveys drop often enough to make it worthwhile?

Darlon · May 2018

Whiphid wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Whiphid wrote: »

Are the regular writs as bad too?

@Whiphid You mean the ones you do for surveys? The ones I've done asked for white items with no traits, same as the other crafts. So you'd just need the ounces of the appropriate tier.

And how's the rewards? Surveys drop often enough to make it worthwhile?

Similar to other crafts really.

RaddlemanNumber7 · May 2018

As it stands, I think jewellery crafting tempers are going to be far too rare and far too useful in themselves for it ever to be worth trading them in for writ vouchers. I certainly have no plans to do any jewellery master writs in the foreseeable future. I don't care how many writ vouchers they reward.

commdt · May 2018

Again they appear disasterously terrible in math. First cooking 10 voucher vrits, then home storage which is twice as expencive in TV than in vouchers, and now this. ZOS, just hire someone with elementary math education (you know when you learn how to sum and multiply), please.

Joy_Division · May 2018

I'd like to say I have hope this will gt adjusted and reformed, but the Provisioning Writs requiring 2 Perfect Roe are still only dishing out 10 vouchers.

Aliyavana · May 2018

What this does if unchanged will cause jewelcrafting writs to be undesirable

Asardes · May 2018

I'm not really interested in Master Writs since I have a steady supply of those from my other crafts, but I would like to know how economical are the normal writs in terms of materials. At this moment Alchemy and Enchanting surveys are a slight net gain in terms of materials, because you get more than you invested in the long run through surveys, and Blacksmith, Clothier and Woodworker are a net loss of about 60-70%, though still worth doing because of the other rewards. Where are Jewelry crafting ones in this aspect?

RaddlemanNumber7 · May 2018

Asardes wrote: »

I'm not really interested in Master Writs since I have a steady supply of those from my other crafts, but I would like to know how economical are the normal writs in terms of materials. At this moment Alchemy and Enchanting surveys are a slight net gain in terms of materials, because you get more than you invested in the long run through surveys, and Blacksmith, Clothier and Woodworker are a net loss of about 60-70%, though still worth doing because of the other rewards. Where are Jewelry crafting ones in this aspect?

I only looked at the Skill Level 1 Pewter writs. On every day I deconned the ring/necklace you get in the reward box rather than selling any. With that and the 5 Pewter you get in the shipment crate there's a slight gain of mats. Obviously, when I dropped a survey report I ended up with a significant gain. So far doing normal writs, on no day have I ever ended up with less Pewter than I started with.

Asardes · May 2018

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I'm not really interested in Master Writs since I have a steady supply of those from my other crafts, but I would like to know how economical are the normal writs in terms of materials. At this moment Alchemy and Enchanting surveys are a slight net gain in terms of materials, because you get more than you invested in the long run through surveys, and Blacksmith, Clothier and Woodworker are a net loss of about 60-70%, though still worth doing because of the other rewards. Where are Jewelry crafting ones in this aspect?

I only looked at the Skill Level 1 Pewter writs. On every day I deconned the ring/necklace you get in the reward box rather than selling any. With that and the 5 Pewter you get in the shipment crate there's a slight gain of mats. Obviously, when I dropped a survey report I ended up with a significant gain. So far doing normal writs, on no day have I ever ended up with less Pewter than I started with.

Nice to know that. It seems that things aren't so bleak as I thought they will be. I presume also on higher tiers it requires slightly more units to craft the required items, but also gives higher chances at legendary tempers as well. I will not try to do the low tier ones when it hits live, but rather power-level my skill by grinding dolmens and breaking down the trash jewelry they drop, then going to the top tier as fast as I can. Also by having a top tier character allows me to get more materials by temporarily doing base crafting on others. It sounds fun

zaria · May 2018

redspecter23 wrote: »

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

I think you mean multiply times 10 like they did with all the materials

Pretty much this. If it takes 80 legendary upgrade mats, there is no way anyone is doing a legendary master jewelry writ for anything under 1000 vouchers and that's still iffy. The epic one I saw posted is for 9 vouchers. It appears as though there was some sort of communication breakdown between the one in charge of writ reward balancing and the one in charge of the material cost. I really hope someone at ZOS is going to look at this before it goes live. It would be a shame if jewelry master writs are worthless due to low returns compared to your investment cost.

Writs are worth around 500 gold / voucher, think 8 gold tempers will sell for more than 500K gold for an long time.
4 purple would probably be in the 30-50K range for an long time.
Yes prices the first month will be far higher.

commdt · May 2018

zaria wrote: »

8 gold tempers will sell for more than 500K gold

I think Its more like 150-200k as you can just farm trials for it (which is not the case with other equip)