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Updated my magsorc build. Whatcha all think
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Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ShadowMonarch wrote: »ShadowMonarch wrote: »I prefer War Maiden over spinner.
The extra spell damage will help you vs shields and healthbars, wereas the pen from spinner will ONLY help you vs the health bars.
The extra spell damage applies only to your magic damage effects, in case of sorcerer that would be things like Crystal Fragments, Suppression Field, Rune Cage, Daedric Minefied (no one runs the last 3 for damage), and it will not affect your healing in any way. Surge heals are a fixed amount, and your other heals scale off you maximum magicka and raw spell damage. In the latter Spinner and War maiden are equal, with 129 spell damage bonus each, but Spinner has one 1096 maximum magicka instead of 833 spell critical. So even when considering raw stats from 2-4p bonuses, Spinner's is at least equal to War Maiden on sorcerer, if not better, since the 2nd maximum magicka bonus adds to your shields, while the critical from War Maiden is mostly negated by other players wearing impenetrable or shielding themselves.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/War+Maiden+Set
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Class+Skills
Except spinner is going to be 100% negated by all shields.
Spinner got nerfed, the armor pen is only 3K or so now. In order to adequately judge it, how much extra damage will that honestly give you against someone in heavy armor (30K)? Medium?
Spinner isn’t terrible, I just think some of the resource sets out are a little better. Armor pen or Necro Max Magicka? Armor pen or 2K Magicka and 2K stamina?
They are, but are also restricted to wanting them up all the time. I still think spinners is probably the best frontbar only set for magsorcMinalan owes me a beer.
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ShadowMonarch wrote: »ShadowMonarch wrote: »I prefer War Maiden over spinner.
The extra spell damage will help you vs shields and healthbars, wereas the pen from spinner will ONLY help you vs the health bars.
The extra spell damage applies only to your magic damage effects, in case of sorcerer that would be things like Crystal Fragments, Suppression Field, Rune Cage, Daedric Minefied (no one runs the last 3 for damage), and it will not affect your healing in any way. Surge heals are a fixed amount, and your other heals scale off you maximum magicka and raw spell damage. In the latter Spinner and War maiden are equal, with 129 spell damage bonus each, but Spinner has one 1096 maximum magicka instead of 833 spell critical. So even when considering raw stats from 2-4p bonuses, Spinner's is at least equal to War Maiden on sorcerer, if not better, since the 2nd maximum magicka bonus adds to your shields, while the critical from War Maiden is mostly negated by other players wearing impenetrable or shielding themselves.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/War+Maiden+Set
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Class+Skills
Except spinner is going to be 100% negated by all shields.
Spinner got nerfed, the armor pen is only 3K or so now. In order to adequately judge it, how much extra damage will that honestly give you against someone in heavy armor (30K)? Medium?
Spinner isn’t terrible, I just think some of the resource sets out are a little better. Armor pen or Necro Max Magicka? Armor pen or 2K Magicka and 2K stamina?
They are, but are also restricted to wanting them up all the time. I still think spinners is probably the best frontbar only set for magsorc
That or war maiden (cage, frags, curse, which is 90% of our damage next patch) or elegance for the overload Sorcs.1 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hm, hadn't thought about war maiden... May need testing out. It won't affect the newer, stronger light attacks, though and most ultis... I wonder what kind of damage the psijic ability does.. the one that buffs your light attacks... ?Minalan owes me a beer.
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Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hm, hadn't thought about war maiden... May need testing out. It won't affect the newer, stronger light attacks, though and most ultis... I wonder what kind of damage the psijic ability does.. the one that buffs your light attacks... ?
It should be elemental, since it applies the status effect no?
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ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Elemental Weapon is magic damage and buffed by War Maiden. So are resto light attacks you can combine it with. Weaving it with resto means the damage happens on the next light attack rather than the previous one, which can be good for burst but bad for instant damage.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hm, so an offensive bar with war maiden and resto staff.... Interesting.. don't think I've ever golded a resto staff before, lol.Minalan owes me a beer.
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Subversus✭✭✭✭✭
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I agreeI mostly find it funny how you say it was "released to the public" as if it was a big secret before someone made a build video. Meanwhile it's simply a combination of the most efficient stat sets with a master staff.
It was released to the public as in it was made widely available, as opposed to only the sorcs that were actually theorycrafting their own builds to begin with.
I don’t get why you all are salty about calling it the Malcolm build. Want to call it the ToRelax build? Sure thing buddy lol.
Noooo, it's cute. Just the fact this is happening with a simple stat stacking setup as opposed to some proc set, damage type set or such.
If I were determined I could find quite a few posts from mag forumsorc mains saying the build is bad before a player with actual legend status released the video confirming that it’s good.
If any sorcs were saying it was bad they weren’t good.
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Elemental Weapon is magic damage and buffed by War Maiden. So are resto light attacks you can combine it with. Weaving it with resto means the damage happens on the next light attack rather than the previous one, which can be good for burst but bad for instant damage.
Are you saying this because the travel time of the Resto light attack is faster than the other staves?#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Elemental Weapon is magic damage and buffed by War Maiden. So are resto light attacks you can combine it with. Weaving it with resto means the damage happens on the next light attack rather than the previous one, which can be good for burst but bad for instant damage.
Are you saying this because the travel time of the Resto light attack is faster than the other staves?
Yes.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU0