Reason to continue with DW Magblade Pvp

Koolio · May 2018

With this update things will change a lot. DW Magic NB are from what I can see outclassed by Destro Resto Magblade.

Any of you have any reasons for staying with DW? It can’t just be because you get an extra enchant.

IMO I feel as if the DW passives need to be better for Magic Classes as well.

Destro has been buffed multiple times and DW has been Nerfed and now almost mage irrelevant. Frustrating as hell to me.

Sixty5 · May 2018

You get more spell damage, a second enchant, and you can restore stam on heavy attacks.

Beyond that, DW is designed for stam classes, not magicka ones. The reason destro staff saw all that love was because DW was doing better than it on a number of Magicka builds.

Ectheliontnacil · May 2018

Reasons to continue with dw magblade?

There are none.

If you want to go with melee (which I wouldn't recommend due to more powerful light attacks on staves), 2h has better passives and 2 useful skills for magblades. Those skills being forward momentum and the ultimate.

PlagueSD · May 2018

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Reasons to continue with dw magblade?

There are none.

If you want to go with melee (which I wouldn't recommend due to more powerful light attacks on staves), 2h has better passives and 2 useful skills for magblades. Those skills being forward momentum and the ultimate.

I'm actually running a sap tank (S&B + lightning staff) quite successfully. Here's the build I'm using. You can skip to 43:00 mark to see it in action. (solo first boss vICP)

https://youtu.be/GBstBT-1dHI

KRBMMO · May 2018

How is it going to work with glyphs with the new 2-h?

If you are allowed just one glyph I can see a reason to have DW to proc two separate glyphs, even if one is weaker.

Or you just like the skills. the "spin" skill on DW seems a lot cheaper than the AOE on 2-h, I think.

Probably not for Magblade, though but For example for a stam sorc I'd still use Bow / DW for PvE because I like the flow.

Koolio · May 2018

Sorry I should have specified that this is pertaining to PVP

Ihatenightblades · May 2018

Koolio wrote: »

With this update things will change a lot. DW Magic NB are from what I can see outclassed by Destro Resto Magblade.

Any of you have any reasons for staying with DW? It can’t just be because you get an extra enchant.

IMO I feel as if the DW passives need to be better for Magic Classes as well.

Destro has been buffed multiple times and DW has been Nerfed and now almost mage irrelevant. Frustrating as hell to me.

The dw passives do literally nothing for magic damage and almost all of dw passives require using the dw skills.

Only real passive u get is 5% extra damage. But then again destro passive has 8% increase single target damage which is basicly all mag blade skills lol. I couldnt think of one good reason honestly to go dw.

geonsocal · May 2018

honestly, at this point i think keeping my magblade DW and destro is more rp than anything...

Ectheliontnacil · May 2018

PlagueSD wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Reasons to continue with dw magblade?

There are none.

If you want to go with melee (which I wouldn't recommend due to more powerful light attacks on staves), 2h has better passives and 2 useful skills for magblades. Those skills being forward momentum and the ultimate.

I'm actually running a sap tank (S&B + lightning staff) quite successfully. Here's the build I'm using. You can skip to 43:00 mark to see it in action. (solo first boss vICP)

https://youtu.be/GBstBT-1dHI

Op said magblade pvp. So you tanking ICP isn't hugely relevant.

Also 1h/s is in no way comparable to dual wield. The only thing they have in common is the fact that they're both useless in pvp.

I'm a bit confused as to why you brought it up.

Note: Cool build though, always liked saptanks ^^

Beardimus · May 2018

It's the death of MagDW in general!! Not just for NB. And I'd love to hear the reasoning from ZOS

Otherwise they should buff the damage, ugg the passives for stam&mag alike

Us MagDW are far an few between now anyway as its been Nerf on Nerf but this really is the final nail in the coffin for DW Sorc. No empowered frags, no need 5:5:2,

They want sorcs & NBs to tank yet dont allow non wand using DD its WEIRD

laksikus · May 2018

Dw still has the higher spelldamage,
Dw can be split up betweeen nirn main and sharp offhand
Dw has 2 enchants

Aisle9 · May 2018

laksikus wrote: »

Dw still has the higher spelldamage,
Dw can be split up betweeen nirn main and sharp offhand
Dw has 2 enchants

Also Ruffian, if you're going for gankblade

PlagueSD · May 2018

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Reasons to continue with dw magblade?

There are none.

If you want to go with melee (which I wouldn't recommend due to more powerful light attacks on staves), 2h has better passives and 2 useful skills for magblades. Those skills being forward momentum and the ultimate.

I'm actually running a sap tank (S&B + lightning staff) quite successfully. Here's the build I'm using. You can skip to 43:00 mark to see it in action. (solo first boss vICP)
https://youtu.be/GBstBT-1dHI

Op said magblade pvp. So you tanking ICP isn't hugely relevant.

Also 1h/s is in no way comparable to dual wield. The only thing they have in common is the fact that they're both useless in pvp.

I'm a bit confused as to why you brought it up.

Note: Cool build though, always liked saptanks ^^

Yeah, I'm bad at reading forum subjects. Realized this was for PvP after posting. Just reading the post, there's nothing in it about being PvP or PvE specific.

Gulkrim-mur · July 2018

Koolio wrote: »

With this update things will change a lot. DW Magic NB are from what I can see outclassed by Destro Resto Magblade.

Any of you have any reasons for staying with DW? It can’t just be because you get an extra enchant.

IMO I feel as if the DW passives need to be better for Magic Classes as well.

Destro has been buffed multiple times and DW has been Nerfed and now almost mage irrelevant. Frustrating as hell to me.

I agree, no reason to dw. Single target buff 8% on destro medium weave gives time for a recovery tic. And easier to proc merciless resolve. Same is same as dw with the acception dw peaks for 3 seconds every 5 seconds you stun your enemy that is if they don't break cc.

Destructive reach with flame is awesome you can still weave range while they fly in air b4 player hits ground.

Also elemental drain is nice debuff and sustain with 300 mag return every second works great with people grasp dot = ] and siphon strikes resource never a issue really and magblade has cheap skills.