Australian Latency Numbers

SirDopey · February 2018

smacky wrote: »

This is nothing to do with ISP's but rather the trunk line and the fact out data is travelling halfway around the world. Latency is referring to the time there and back again (not by Bilbo Baggins).

Whether you are on ADSL or NBN I am yet to see any Aussie with a Latency of less than 250ms and most of us average 280-330ms at least in my multiple guilds.

It creates an unfair advantage to players in US etc. For example in Craglorn, I am at a piece of Wood / Ore / Silk and actually harvesting and then someone comes up and manages to take it instead.

Due to the latency issues, PvP is simply unplayable for a Sorcerer.

This is true, it is a tougher experience for us.

Though ISP's do affect the situation. My parents property is 30 kms west of me and on their Eftel connection I consistently get an in game latency of 240ms with no VPN on their ADSL 2+ connection. Unfortunately that company is no longer accepting new connections for SE QLD. And based on what's been said here we're seeing swings of up to 100ms between people in the same area with different providers so ISP's are to blame for the more poor results.

Seri · February 2018

SirDopey wrote: »

smacky wrote: »

This is nothing to do with ISP's but rather the trunk line and the fact out data is travelling halfway around the world. Latency is referring to the time there and back again (not by Bilbo Baggins).

Whether you are on ADSL or NBN I am yet to see any Aussie with a Latency of less than 250ms and most of us average 280-330ms at least in my multiple guilds.

It creates an unfair advantage to players in US etc. For example in Craglorn, I am at a piece of Wood / Ore / Silk and actually harvesting and then someone comes up and manages to take it instead.

Due to the latency issues, PvP is simply unplayable for a Sorcerer.

This is true, it is a tougher experience for us.

Though ISP's do affect the situation. My parents property is 30 kms west of me and on their Eftel connection I consistently get an in game latency of 240ms with no VPN on their ADSL 2+ connection. Unfortunately that company is no longer accepting new connections for SE QLD. And based on what's been said here we're seeing swings of up to 100ms between people in the same area with different providers so ISP's are to blame for the more poor results.

^ yes. It's almost physically impossible that someone in AU would get less than 200ms, but ISP will make a difference in base ping (ie, some people sit at 250 while others at 350 while being in the same city on the east coast depending if their route goes direct to an Akamai node in the US, or via an Akamai node in Asia), and with jitter/lag, particularly for NBN users if their ISP does not offer sufficient peak-time capacity.

sparhawk29 · February 2018

firstly, anyone on nbn is being conned. they are choking it so adsl doesn't get drowned out. had issues with my telstra connection and was talking with a technician about it. all the promise of speed and you aren't getting it.

second, if you're getting below 250 for your ping, you're doing well. even in gladstone qld i'll be getting that... you'd need a direct connection to their server to get lower, the ping trace will reveal you'll bounce alot of america and even germany for some reason before you come back to the server. datamining practices force that.

SirDopey · February 2018

So based on the trace routes and pings I got back from the RSP/ISP's that got back to me I signed up to LeapTel today. Currently I have both the Myrepublic and Leaptel connections active using different UNI-D ports on the FTTP NBN hardware as I haven't cancelled my republic yet.

Same computer and router.

Myrepublic is 330- 380 in game latency no VPN
Leaptel 240 - 250 in game latency no VPN.

Pinging from terminal:
Leaptel 201 - 205ms
Myrepublic 290 - 340

I consider this pretty hard evidence that ISPs can make a huge difference. Unfortunately, leaptel is a lot more expensive.

Haboom · February 2018

Can only dream that one day ZOS will bring servers to AU, maybe have them talk to Blizzard.

hamgatan · February 2018

Internode
PC|NA
Rockingham, WA
50mb/s FTTN NBN / Average 5.9mb Sec Transfer.
270-290 Average / No VPN / QoS Policies Active

Slick_007 · February 2018

sparhawk29 wrote: »

firstly, anyone on nbn is being conned. they are choking it so adsl doesn't get drowned out. had issues with my telstra connection and was talking with a technician about it. all the promise of speed and you aren't getting it.

someones delusional here. your telstra tech doesnt work for nbn, or deal with bandwidth for nbn. All he does is physical joins on some now ex telstra gear. Its in telstras best interest to keep customers OFF nbn as long as possible as they make more profit off those customers and then they still get paid for switching them to nbn later.

my speeds and the speeds of others i know, even telstra customers, have been fine on nbn. I understand not everyones has been and thats been from ISPs skimping on how much bandwidth they buy because it costs them more for nbn than adsl. That has largely been rectified and NBN have even released new wholesale plans to almost guarantee ISP's are buying more capacity per person. Now having said that, there is not much difference between an NBN and an ADSL customer because its only a very small part of the equation in the connection to ESO. Sure, fibre has a lower ping than adsl. but over the distance that covers, its a very small part of the game.

MW2K · February 2018

Actually, Telstra must be having a good week. I've been around the 240-260 ms mark of late. That's about as good as I've gotten it.

Funkpirata · February 2018

Seems hellstra customers fair slightly better. With optus ADSL2+ in Melbourne I get 320-380. With battleping this drops to 270-330. Weaving and animation cancelling is extremely difficult. I'm dumbfounded as to why people in NZ seem to get much better pings. I assumed they would be routing through SE Asia same as us.

MrGarlic · February 2018

Funkpirata wrote: »

Seems hellstra customers fair slightly better. With optus ADSL2+ in Melbourne I get 320-380. With battleping this drops to 270-330. Weaving and animation cancelling is extremely difficult. I'm dumbfounded as to why people in NZ seem to get much better pings. I assumed they would be routing through SE Asia same as us.

Our data leaves Auckland on the Southern Cross Cable Network (SCCN) directly to Hawaii and onwards to the west coast of the USA. There is no need for it to back-track to Sydney.

The SCCN starts in Sydney, then on to Auckland, then Hawaii where it splits and makes landfall in either Los Angeles or San Fransisco. (There is another SCCN link that bypasses NZ.)

ISPs in Australia that have access to the SCCN will (probably) have better pings than those who do not that route through cheaper networks in South East Asia.

Optus/Singtel part-owns the SCCN so maybe a user's USA ping can be improved if you switch to Optus or one of the providers using Optus backhaul.

(Correct me if I am wrong.)

sovreign · April 2018

Newcastle Australia
50/20 fibre connection through 'Aussie Broadband'
(Great ISP, seriously good customer service)
Ping sits at 230-250, but is most often steady at 230ish.
Its quite playable, but what I wouldn't give for an OCE server.

MrGarlic · April 2018

sovreign wrote: »

Newcastle Australia
50/20 fibre connection through 'Aussie Broadband'
(Great ISP, seriously good customer service)
Ping sits at 230-250, but is most often steady at 230ish.
Its quite playable, but what I wouldn't give for an OCE server.

That's awesome ping for Aust, on par with NZ. I bet the fibre connection has an impact on that.

RedFireDisco · April 2018

ArcaneBlue wrote: »

Gold Coast here
PC NA
telstra cable broadband
30mbps
no vpn
240-300ms

I switched from optus adsl, used to get 3mbps (lol) and my ping was 350ms+ ON A GOOD DAY

Me too

Carl-lan · April 2018

Melbourne
Western Suburbs
PC NA
Telstra ADSL2
250-320 ms
Usually sits around 260.

Used to have Fiber in my old apartment in Melbourne but had basically the same results.

ccfeeling · April 2018

Can you guys hit over 35k with around 300 ping ?

DanteYoda · April 2018

Toowoomba Australia QLD
PC/NA
Telstra ADSL2 off net
16mb down 1mb up
290-330 ping

Lysette · April 2018

Feanor wrote: »

Wow. And I thought the 200+ ms I get when I play on PC/NA from EU are bad. More than 300ms on average for you guys...how do you cope?

Europe to North America is a minor distance compared to the distance from Oz to any of the ESO servers - that's why.

Zavs · May 2018

im on NBN and this is my internet speed.
https://imgur.com/a/712Bmb4

and this is my latency ingame.
https://imgur.com/a/JRVcgYN

It's absolutely disgusting, Whenever i jumped into Cyrodiil to pvp my ping shoots up to 700+.
Don't get me wrong i love the bloody game. but having 400+ ping on daily basis is doing my bloody heading.

aetherial_heavenn · May 2018

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Wow. And I thought the 200+ ms I get when I play on PC/NA from EU are bad. More than 300ms on average for you guys...how do you cope?

We've had these issues with online games for decades. How do we cope? We've grown to just deal with it. No matter how fast the connection is or how much they improve the server, the issue lies with the geography.

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

The best part about 300+ is getting killed outside the red and called a bad player for being in the red.

I reckon the best part about 300+ Ping is all the people with 50 ping telling you it's easy to weave and to Git Gud then complain when their ping hits 120.

That or getting killed by 20 hits in 1 seconds in cyrodi from a single player.

Yeah to all the above. Any Aussie to any US ...'You think that's lag....This is lag'

Iinet
Fixed Wireless broadband
Regional Victoria
Download...promised 10mbs evening
Actual 1 -2 mbs.
Cost 60.00 per month. *
Ping 360 ms average in Cyro. 400ms for hours, frequently.
Ping 280-320 ms average PvE.

*Provider says ping of 280ms to US is pretty good

TheRealPotoroo · May 2018

Seri wrote: »

Looking through this, some of the various ISPs are about as I would expect. Routing with the current Akamai DDOS protection from mid last year now sends many ISPs off up to an Akamai node in Asia. Exceptions are Telstra, ISP/RSPs that use Telstra Wholesale for international transit, and maybe a few other small spots from people based on the east coast I've seen. Depending on routes, this will likely add anywhere from 50-150ms.

Those of us that route up to Asia will likely see improvements with one of the ping VPNs.

Traceroute to the ESO NA IP 198.20.198.110 can tell you which route you're taking.

Ahh. I'm in Melbourne. PC NA via iiNet has been 290-370 for a while now but at my partner's via Telstra cable it's more like 250-280.

<sigh>

There was a time back in the First Age when iiNet was a good provider. :'(