The state of 2h PvE dps: test vs live

b.bredfeldtub17_ESO · April 2018

JumpmanLane wrote: »

I can actually get behind that. TES is a solo series outside of ESO. I found Skyrim particularly enjoyable. Sometimes you can get caught up in what works and loose sight of what a game is supposed to be, which is fun for the player. You made a good point.

I'm glad you came to this realization, but I don't understand how people don't think of this as the absolute first order consideration in a game with the term RPG in it. I'm paying this game to fill my fantasy of being what I wish I could be in real life, and it's very specific. If I can't do that, I drop the game (or in most cases, never start).

JumpmanLane · April 2018

b.bredfeldtub17_ESO wrote: »

JumpmanLane wrote: »

I can actually get behind that. TES is a solo series outside of ESO. I found Skyrim particularly enjoyable. Sometimes you can get caught up in what works and loose sight of what a game is supposed to be, which is fun for the player. You made a good point.

I'm glad you came to this realization, but I don't understand how people don't think of this as the absolute first order consideration in a game with the term RPG in it. I'm paying this game to fill my fantasy of being what I wish I could be in real life, and it's very specific. If I can't do that, I drop the game (or in most cases, never start).

I’m m right there with you on that. I joined ESO thinking it was the Elder Scrolls 6 or Skyrim Online and it’s just...NOT. My choice that weekend was to download the Bruma mod for Skyrim or download Eso and I chose Eso. I’m glad I did. I find the constant competition fun, and having to learn stuff to get better challenging. THOUGH, I find the quests and consequently most PVE content mind numbingly boring because it’s overly repetitive.

I started a new play through of Skyrim a few weeks back to see if I had gone crazy and just hated quests. Nope, just the ones in ESO. ZOS should put out better fare lol.

Though, I AM that player who enjoys a good RPG. When you put it the way you put it I do get it. You can get blinded by PvP and dismiss other aspects of the game like PvE if you don’t focus on it. If the quests in ESO were just a tad better I’d have gotten it all along.

Reading through the posts here I can understand most people’s frustrations about the light attack nerf and 2H vs DW in PVE. ZOS seems to think making 2H worth 2slots is actually some kind of buff.

If I were questing 2H or grouping for a dungeon I wouldn’t want to be judged for 2H; and, I have to admit I’ve snickered at 2H’s in dungeons and at dolmens. 2H whole skill line should probably be completely reworked as someone noted earlier.

Aliyavana · April 2018

JumpmanLane wrote: »

b.bredfeldtub17_ESO wrote: »

JumpmanLane wrote: »

I can actually get behind that. TES is a solo series outside of ESO. I found Skyrim particularly enjoyable. Sometimes you can get caught up in what works and loose sight of what a game is supposed to be, which is fun for the player. You made a good point.

I'm glad you came to this realization, but I don't understand how people don't think of this as the absolute first order consideration in a game with the term RPG in it. I'm paying this game to fill my fantasy of being what I wish I could be in real life, and it's very specific. If I can't do that, I drop the game (or in most cases, never start).

I’m m right there with you on that. I joined ESO thinking it was the Elder Scrolls 6 or Skyrim Online and it’s just...NOT. My choice that weekend was to download the Bruma mod for Skyrim or download Eso and I chose Eso. I’m glad I did. I find the constant competition fun, and having to learn stuff to get better challenging. THOUGH, I find the quests and consequently most PVE content mind numbingly boring because it’s overly repetitive.

I started a new play through of Skyrim a few weeks back to see if I had gone crazy and just hated quests. Nope, just the ones in ESO. ZOS should put out better fare lol.

Though, I AM that player who enjoys a good RPG. When you put it the way you put it I do get it. You can get blinded by PvP and dismiss other aspects of the game like PvE if you don’t focus on it. If the quests in ESO were just a tad better I’d have gotten it all along.

Reading through the posts here I can understand most people’s frustrations about the light attack nerf and 2H vs DW in PVE. ZOS seems to think making 2H worth 2slots is actually some kind of buff.

If I were questing 2H or grouping for a dungeon I wouldn’t want to be judged for 2H; and, I have to admit I’ve snickered at 2H’s in dungeons and at dolmens. 2H whole skill line should probably be completely reworked as someone noted earlier.

how can you not enjoy questing in eso when skyrims just send you to Nordic dungeons that are the same as the other 100 Nordic dungeons and npcs that are far less interesting than eso's

Khivas_Carrick · April 2018

NyassaV wrote: »

First off... Why are you using a 2H in PvE? You are making trade offs for using it so please don't ask for it to be buffed simply because it doesn't preform as well as something else that is meant for something else.

The 2H skill tree is built differently than DW. With 2H you have rally, a powerful stamina heal, (pretty useful in vMA sometimes) but lacks powerful single target DoTs which are key to high PvE DPS. 2H also has sustain passive for when you kill an enemy. Now DW on the other hand is built for higher DPS with less versatility in it's skill tree and more focus on damage.

Leemado wrote: »

[*] DW attacks are faster than 2H
[*] Light attack DPS considering speed of DW seems to be 46% more than 2H

Light attack speed should be the same if I'm not mistaken. Heavy attack speed is however different and that is mostly due to the fact 2H has an empower passive after a fully charged heavy attack.

Some people like to use 2H for whatever reasons, be it flavorwise or whatever. Nobody should be shoehorned into using a single type of weapon for a single type of gameplay. DW should be viable in PvP and 2H should be viable in PvE, both equal to each other entirely just with different styles of gameplay for their chosen needs.

gtfoh

Khivas_Carrick · April 2018

Tempestwrath wrote: »

A common theme I've seen in this thread is people repeating the old "DW is for PVE and 2H is for PVP, deal with it" schtick. This idea is a tired, stale meme at this point. It's myopic, counterproductive, and fails to provide any useful discourse.

Why would anyone reasonably want less variety? It's entirely possible for 2H and DW to be viable in all game types while giving them fundamentally different play styles. In fact, we already have multiple examples in the game of skill lines that find viable roles in all content:

1) Sword and Shield
2) Destruction Staves
3) Restoration Staves
4) Bows

All of these are used in PVP and PVE in varying roles and capacities. Even DW, while being used more often in PVE, is still viable in PVP in certain classes, if played with skill.

So, why should DW be restricted to PVE and 2H to PVP? What good does that serve the game? The only people this idea appeals to are those already invested in their particular build, be it in PVE or PVP, and are scared to death of the potential of being outperformed by something different. That attitude only serves to make the game smaller, less dynamic, and less diverse than it could be. And that's a shame.

P R E A C H MY BROTHA

PREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH

Khivas_Carrick · April 2018

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Why would you bother playing 2H in PVE if it is gimped so much. Outside of a trial, or unless you’re in a group muttering about low Dps hehehehe. Deal. With. It. Don’t hate because people who enjoy DW in PvE are outperforming you. YOU are not FORCED to use 2H in PVE (like I am forced to in PvP as a StamDK). You CHOOSE to use 2H in PVE. If you’re chosen last on the playground because you’ve got a big sword on your back, YOU chose to be that kid.

Instead of begging ZOS for a buff (or a nerf of DW) roll another toon or choose better gear. I personally wouldn’t vote you out the group if your low dps were an issue. I always abstain hehehehe.

Because you shouldn't be gimped for choosing to play how you want to play in a game that has incentives to play how you want to play.

Plus it's really not that hard to balance it out, it's pure laziness at this point and nobody wants to be the same as everybody else, that's just boring as ***.

mr_wazzabi · April 2018

As per the latest patch notes, they totally ignored our feedback and gave all light attacks a blanket nerf of 20%.

2H is probably still the worst, but can you guys test?

Kanar · April 2018

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

As per the latest patch notes, they totally ignored our feedback and gave all light attacks a blanket nerf of 20%.

2H is probably still the worst, but can you guys test?

I'll test later tonight with my character, that way we have historical data too.

Stickbow · April 2018

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

As per the latest patch notes, they totally ignored our feedback and gave all light attacks a blanket nerf of 20%.

2H is probably still the worst, but can you guys test?

Argh - just saw today's patch notes. We (at least I) didn't want them to nerf everything - just keep the 2h buffs inline with the other skills.

Bah. Humbug.

Madhattr64 · April 2018

2H only has 1 enchantment and trait where DW has 2 of each.

Kanar · May 2018

Re-used the Live results from the first run, and re-did the test results with the exact same scenario (no food, same sets and skills equipped, same purple untraited weapons, etc)
Note: I realized that I have FDB equipped on my DW or 2H bar, and trap equipped on my bow bar, which means DW/2H will be 5% higher than bow. I took clean numbers from test but don't have time to get the numbers from live again tonight so maybe I'll post them tomorrow.
4.0.2 results:

Weapon          Test          Live          Difference
2h LA:           2552         3062        83% of live
2h HA:           4187         5372        78% of live

dw LA:           2589         2388        108% of live
dw HA:           3894         4544        86% of live

bow LA:          2324         1980        117% of live
bow HA:          4976         5305        94% of live

At this point it's just a joke. Across the board nerf for 2h vs live. Now, if I had the extra stamina from my food buff it would be closer but still weaker than live, and DW and Bow of course would be even better off.

mr_wazzabi · May 2018

Kanar wrote: »
Re-used the Live results from the first run, and re-did the test results with the exact same scenario (no food, same sets and skills equipped, same purple untraited weapons, etc)
Note: I realized that I have FDB equipped on my DW or 2H bar, and trap equipped on my bow bar, which means DW/2H will be 5% higher than bow. I took clean numbers from test but don't have time to get the numbers from live again tonight so maybe I'll post them tomorrow.
4.0.2 results:
Weapon          Test          Live          Difference
2h LA:           2552         3062        83% of live
2h HA:           4187         5372        78% of live

dw LA:           2589         2388        108% of live
dw HA:           3894         4544        86% of live

bow LA:          2324         1980        117% of live
bow HA:          4976         5305        94% of live
At this point it's just a joke. Across the board nerf for 2h vs live. Now, if I had the extra stamina from my food buff it would be closer but still weaker than live, and DW and Bow of course would be even better off.

This is ridiculous. What the hell @zos_ginabruno @zos_wrobel ?

JumpmanLane · May 2018

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Why would you bother playing 2H in PVE if it is gimped so much. Outside of a trial, or unless you’re in a group muttering about low Dps hehehehe. Deal. With. It. Don’t hate because people who enjoy DW in PvE are outperforming you. YOU are not FORCED to use 2H in PVE (like I am forced to in PvP as a StamDK). You CHOOSE to use 2H in PVE. If you’re chosen last on the playground because you’ve got a big sword on your back, YOU chose to be that kid.

Instead of begging ZOS for a buff (or a nerf of DW) roll another toon or choose better gear. I personally wouldn’t vote you out the group if your low dps were an issue. I always abstain hehehehe.

Because you shouldn't be gimped for choosing to play how you want to play in a game that has incentives to play how you want to play.

Plus it's really not that hard to balance it out, it's pure laziness at this point and nobody wants to be the same as everybody else, that's just boring as ***.

Hey, I agree. I don’t think it’s laziness on ZOS’s part. I think they over think it because they are trying to sell something. They are not invested in the game as art per se; but, rather view it as a product. They race around trying to please SOME imaginary someone who might just plunk down some money for that game.

It’s easy to get lost in the constant competition to “win” in PvP or reach the heights of a leaderboard in Pve. Yet, when you remember that ESO is a game, which people just want to play their own way within a myriad of choices, it is very easy to understand people’s issues with 2H, (now and in the coming update).

Deep down I get it.

exiars10 · May 2018

mr_wazzabi wrote: »
Kanar wrote: »
Re-used the Live results from the first run, and re-did the test results with the exact same scenario (no food, same sets and skills equipped, same purple untraited weapons, etc)
Note: I realized that I have FDB equipped on my DW or 2H bar, and trap equipped on my bow bar, which means DW/2H will be 5% higher than bow. I took clean numbers from test but don't have time to get the numbers from live again tonight so maybe I'll post them tomorrow.
4.0.2 results:
Weapon          Test          Live          Difference
2h LA:           2552         3062        83% of live
2h HA:           4187         5372        78% of live

dw LA:           2589         2388        108% of live
dw HA:           3894         4544        86% of live

bow LA:          2324         1980        117% of live
bow HA:          4976         5305        94% of live
At this point it's just a joke. Across the board nerf for 2h vs live. Now, if I had the extra stamina from my food buff it would be closer but still weaker than live, and DW and Bow of course would be even better off.
This is ridiculous. What the hell @zos_ginabruno @zos_wrobel ?

I guess only rational "explanation" is that 2H is rarely used in PvE (after all they have all stats) so why not as only tiny minority is going to be upset and from their POV it's worth it as long as PvP community is ok with it.

Don't get me wrong I play both PvE and Cyrodiil PvP and I don't like 2H not only in ESO but in every other RPG (but I don't like DW, too) but it's really sad just like many other balancing things

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Tempestwrath · May 2018

Looks like I'm switching back to DW when these changes go live. There's not really any compelling reason to run 2H in PVE anymore. It's worse in every measurable way.

mr_wazzabi · May 2018

Tempestwrath wrote: »

Looks like I'm switching back to DW when these changes go live. There's not really any compelling reason to run 2H in PVE anymore. It's worse in every measurable way.

Unless ZOS listens to our feedback for once.

Right @ZOS_GinaBruno @zos_wrobel ?

Tempestwrath · May 2018

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Tempestwrath wrote: »

Looks like I'm switching back to DW when these changes go live. There's not really any compelling reason to run 2H in PVE anymore. It's worse in every measurable way.

Unless ZOS listens to our feedback for once.

Right @ZOS_GinaBruno @zos_wrobel ?

"We want to reinforce that light attacks are for dealing damage." Therefore we're reducing light attack damage for two handed weapons by 17%

It's just kind of absurd. I don't even know what to say.

I've been playing this game since the closed beta in 2013. I've been a subscriber every single month since then. While I don't feel like that gives me special say as to what gets adjusted, changes like this--where underperforming builds get hit hard and overperforming builds get buffs--make me question why I invest so much time in this game.

Bringing over powered abilities in line is one thing. It's understandable. This is something else entirely.

Leemado · May 2018

Tempestwrath wrote: »

Looks like I'm switching back to DW when these changes go live. There's not really any compelling reason to run 2H in PVE anymore. It's worse in every measurable way.

This is the road to leaving the game, playing something you don't want to play.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @zos_wrobel any fedback on why you want to nerf 2H on PVE? We haven't heard any reason.

mr_wazzabi · May 2018

Leemado wrote: »

Tempestwrath wrote: »

Looks like I'm switching back to DW when these changes go live. There's not really any compelling reason to run 2H in PVE anymore. It's worse in every measurable way.

This is the road to leaving the game, playing something you don't want to play.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @zos_wrobel any fedback on why you want to nerf 2H on PVE? We haven't heard any reason.

Unfortunately I preordered Summerset being all excited for jewelery crafting, otherwise I would leave too. I actually recently came back to the game after taking a year off as I was pissed off at the Morrowind sustain nerfs.

I've played since day 1 of console release on ps4. My first character and main is a woodelf StamNB who mains 2H and bow. I was very vocal against the uppercut nerf of making only dizzing swing cc. I understand the reason for the change, although I still strongly disagree with it.

But this. This is something else.

Kanar · May 2018

It is really discouraging. What frustrates me the most, more than any one particular nerf, are two things:
1.) The playerbase's utter complacency with the status quo - they just accept the lame "dw for pve, 2h for PvP" garbage so much that they begin defending it and arguing from that perspective.
2.) The devs utter lack of understanding when making balance changes. Like, they think everyone uses 2h in PvP because of the light attack damage? Similar to removing wrath passive from heavy armor - totally pointless nerf because that is not why people use heavy armor in PvP. A history of changes like this just causes one to really lose confidence that there is some competent individual guiding the direction of the game.

I'm glad I didn't pre-order summerset.

b.bredfeldtub17_ESO · May 2018

I don't just accept anything they do. I quit wow over it (horrible balance) and I'm about to quit ESO over it. I haven't logged in in about a week and have lost all motivation thanks to summerset patch notes. I'm just upset I pre-purchased it at this point, assuming ZOS knew what they were doing.

mr_wazzabi · May 2018

The 2H community needs to rally together so our voice is heard.

Yes I said "rally."

Sekero · May 2018

First I'm by no means a" Good" Player or, most days even an average player. I use 2h/bow simply because age and stiff joints make that the only viable way to stay alive while questing. PVP is out of the question for the same reason, so no Caltrops, Vigor or Warhorn for me. (2H is "Slower, giving me time to weave a LA, but even so I parse ~15k on a good day, ~10 or lower on a normal day. If I were to switch to DW, my damage and "life expectancy" would decrease noticeably because I cannot reach the speeds necessary for that. My only hope here is that the buff to Bow is enough to cancel out the nerf to 2h. If it is not, I will have to use Magicka characters only, which does not particularly thrill me.

BTW don't bother to post "L2P2 or" Git Gud" as the physical limitations mentioned above make such impossible, unless it becomes possible to get hand transplants. I should add that I am not the only player who has physical limitations, far from it.

Runefang · May 2018

Really disappointing changes... I only PvE and avoid stam dps simply because I dont like holding 2 little pins in my hands. Give me viable 2H DPS and I'll play it.

exiars10 · May 2018

Reddit thread from the last night:
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/8gaf0w/discussion_an_open_letter_to_zos_twohanded_in_pve/

Just one my comment:

But we do see trials teams kick us, for using 2H. And we do see vet dungeon teams kick us, for using 2H.

I don't play trials, but I would never initiate vote to kick somebody from vet. group dungeon if s/he uses 2H and never remember somebody did the same...

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I still think 2H users are very rare in PvE and that's why they ignore you. I hardly see anybody uses 2H in overland content (I don't count new low level players) and super rare in group dungeons.

It's really sad that bow/bow (there are numerous threads how to redo several garbage bow skills) and 2H players are second class citizens to DW in PvE. At least bow* is somehow very slowly moving forward but still...

*Mainly used as backbar weapon which is sad.

Tempestwrath · May 2018

There was a post today on Reddit that indicated some positive news:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/8glidq/the_state_of_2h_pve_dps_in_summerset/

This fellow was able to parse within 5.7% of Dual Wield, sometimes as close as 4.5%, in a number of 6M dummy parses. 38430 for the 2H setup, and 40752 for the DW setup. Part of these numbers are from the new Relequen set, which seems to be overperforming a little bit right now, but this is at least somewhat encouraging.

This doesn't really change the ultimate point of this topic, because this topic's request of upping 2H light attack damage should, in theory, bring it even closer to par with DW, but within ~5% is entirely respectable for 2 handed weapons in a trial setting, and is a smaller variance than is typically accounted for, than say, player skill.

Strider__Roshin · May 2018

Tempestwrath wrote: »

There was a post today on Reddit that indicated some positive news:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/8glidq/the_state_of_2h_pve_dps_in_summerset/

This fellow was able to parse within 5.7% of Dual Wield, sometimes as close as 4.5%, in a number of 6M dummy parses. 38430 for the 2H setup, and 40752 for the DW setup. Part of these numbers are from the new Relequen set, which seems to be overperforming a little bit right now, but this is at least somewhat encouraging.

This doesn't really change the ultimate point of this topic, because this topic's request of upping 2H light attack damage should, in theory, bring it even closer to par with DW, but within ~5% is entirely respectable for 2 handed weapons in a trial setting, and is a smaller variance than is typically accounted for, than say, player skill.

With the fact that DW can have an axe + dagger, two enchants, and a better ST bleed; the 2H really needs to have superior light and heavy attacks in order to bridge the gap.

mr_wazzabi · May 2018

Keep this thread alive ppl

exiars10 · May 2018

Veteran Wayrest Sewers II last night as pledge. I was suprised to see 2H/bow player (CP 300+). And s/he was fine. We even did HM. Nobody complained nor tried to kick him/her.

IMO it's super tiny minority which try to instantly kick 2H players from group dungeons.

I think the main problem is huge meta following and I don't blame most players as I was typical DW/bow player until I finally found out that bow/bow is viable. I think it's the same for 2H in PvE. It's simply much easier to go and copy/paste build from somebody famous especially when you are new player and you don't know what to do but because famous players are into min/max we are in unbroken circle - barely anybody plays as bow/bow and 2H/bow in PvE, devs knows it and ignore suggestions to catter tiny minority and almost nobody plays it as it's not meta...

Khivas_Carrick · May 2018

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Why would you bother playing 2H in PVE if it is gimped so much. Outside of a trial, or unless you’re in a group muttering about low Dps hehehehe. Deal. With. It. Don’t hate because people who enjoy DW in PvE are outperforming you. YOU are not FORCED to use 2H in PVE (like I am forced to in PvP as a StamDK). You CHOOSE to use 2H in PVE. If you’re chosen last on the playground because you’ve got a big sword on your back, YOU chose to be that kid.

Instead of begging ZOS for a buff (or a nerf of DW) roll another toon or choose better gear. I personally wouldn’t vote you out the group if your low dps were an issue. I always abstain hehehehe.

Because you shouldn't be gimped for choosing to play how you want to play in a game that has incentives to play how you want to play.

Plus it's really not that hard to balance it out, it's pure laziness at this point and nobody wants to be the same as everybody else, that's just boring as ***.

Hey, I agree. I don’t think it’s laziness on ZOS’s part. I think they over think it because they are trying to sell something. They are not invested in the game as art per se; but, rather view it as a product. They race around trying to please SOME imaginary someone who might just plunk down some money for that game.

It’s easy to get lost in the constant competition to “win” in PvP or reach the heights of a leaderboard in Pve. Yet, when you remember that ESO is a game, which people just want to play their own way within a myriad of choices, it is very easy to understand people’s issues with 2H, (now and in the coming update).

Deep down I get it.

It is ENTIRELY laziness on ZoS, as they refuse to balance it out. It's not hard, the playerbase has already done the legwork for them, they're just too *** to change anything, and your own logic defeats itself. If they're trying to sell a product, they should market that product to everyone, not ostracize people because their choices of gameplay is what makes them bad as opposed to their skill. If Blizzard can get that much right, anybody should be able to. This is the type of *** that makes games bleed subs.

Daus wrote: »

Tempestwrath wrote: »

There was a post today on Reddit that indicated some positive news:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/8glidq/the_state_of_2h_pve_dps_in_summerset/

This fellow was able to parse within 5.7% of Dual Wield, sometimes as close as 4.5%, in a number of 6M dummy parses. 38430 for the 2H setup, and 40752 for the DW setup. Part of these numbers are from the new Relequen set, which seems to be overperforming a little bit right now, but this is at least somewhat encouraging.

This doesn't really change the ultimate point of this topic, because this topic's request of upping 2H light attack damage should, in theory, bring it even closer to par with DW, but within ~5% is entirely respectable for 2 handed weapons in a trial setting, and is a smaller variance than is typically accounted for, than say, player skill.

With the fact that DW can have an axe + dagger, two enchants, and a better ST bleed; the 2H really needs to have superior light and heavy attacks in order to bridge the gap.

Gonna need a lot more than that to make it even, a hell of a lot more. Axes need way higher chance to cause a bleed as well as built in Crit, and swords should add 8% damage instead of 5%. Cleave should have a morph where it becomes single target skill that does grossly higher damage so it stays on par with DW's bleed. That's all just to start.

exiars10 wrote: »

Reddit thread from the last night:
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/8gaf0w/discussion_an_open_letter_to_zos_twohanded_in_pve/

Just one my comment:

But we do see trials teams kick us, for using 2H. And we do see vet dungeon teams kick us, for using 2H.

I don't play trials, but I would never initiate vote to kick somebody from vet. group dungeon if s/he uses 2H and never remember somebody did the same...

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I still think 2H users are very rare in PvE and that's why they ignore you. I hardly see anybody uses 2H in overland content (I don't count new low level players) and super rare in group dungeons.

It's really sad that bow/bow (there are numerous threads how to redo several garbage bow skills) and 2H players are second class citizens to DW in PvE. At least bow* is somehow very slowly moving forward but still...

*Mainly used as backbar weapon which is sad.

>sees second class citizen line.
>wants to make joke about being a black guy in America
>realizes he can't even play a fantasy game without still being a 2nd class citizen.
>laughs at bad dark humor joke
>still plays 2H
>2H and Proud.

Jokes aside I actually see quite a bit of 2H in dungeons and such, we're not THAT rare, people are just ***, ask ZoS >_> Speaking of which....

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Please, you simply evened the playing field slightly, but you know god damn well 2H is grossly underperforming in PvE. Stop killing build diversity and give us the proper buffs we deserve.