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Rally/Forward Momentum
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Temeraire507✭✭✭elfantasmo wrote: »2H skill line and DW skill line passively buffs spell damage. It is non disputable. Therefore people build around this passive for magicka based characters (mag Templar - dual wield, magblade bomber - dual wield, magdk- dual wield, etc etc).
So although the SKILLS are stamina based, the SKILLLINE is not exclusively stamina based. What I am proposing is to add a magicka benefit to the SKILLS since the skillline is being used by magicka players. 0 destro passives buff weapon damage, so why you would use this as a comparable doesn’t make any sense.
It does not passively buf spell damage. It just increases your overall damage if you are using a sword. That is not directly magicka related, so why should 2H be buffed for mag?0 -
elfantasmo✭✭✭kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »Overall with the 8% bonus to AoE or Single Target damage this is better then the buff from melee weapons. Sure you get a sightly bigger bonus to one area and not all, but you can weave at a distance and get magic on heavy attacks plus the CP points to elemental damage.
It's for snare/immobilization removal. Magicka specs out side of templar have no reliable way of countering them, so they are willing to drop staff, which is obviously better, just to have an option to remove snares. Which is sad from magicka PoV.
Mistform and efficient purge. Stop complaining. It’s just that no magicka builds want to slot them and give up one of their unique class skills. Welcome to the world of stamina, everyone uses the same couple of skills to get by because there’s no other choice.
I’m certainly not complaining, simply opening up a topical debate for diversity in building for PvP. Isn’t it good to have some diversity and unique hybrid builds? It is not your gang versus my gang... just because I post a question about magicka does not mean that I don’t have a stamsorc, stamblade, stamdk for pve and a stamden, stamplar and stamblade for PvP because I do, and definitely don’t need to be welcomed to the world of stamina. ;-) i don’t see why people get so defensive... every class skill has both major brutality, major sorcery on the same skill so why not diversify the weapon skill lines. Another example I can guarantee 90% of people who runs a magicka PvP build uses sword and board back bar. Purge and mist form are too much cost wise and whilst mist form is decent you would only really run it on a heavy armour build which doesn’t have access to shields.
Let’s be a bit more objective with arguments for and against please.
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Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »Overall with the 8% bonus to AoE or Single Target damage this is better then the buff from melee weapons. Sure you get a sightly bigger bonus to one area and not all, but you can weave at a distance and get magic on heavy attacks plus the CP points to elemental damage.
It's for snare/immobilization removal. Magicka specs out side of templar have no reliable way of countering them, so they are willing to drop staff, which is obviously better, just to have an option to remove snares. Which is sad from magicka PoV.
Mistform and efficient purge. Stop complaining. It’s just that no magicka builds want to slot them and give up one of their unique class skills. Welcome to the world of stamina, everyone uses the same couple of skills to get by because there’s no other choice.
You know, if efficient purge was half as good as stam players make it out to be, more than 2% of the magicka PvP population would slot it.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.1 -
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✭✭kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »Overall with the 8% bonus to AoE or Single Target damage this is better then the buff from melee weapons. Sure you get a sightly bigger bonus to one area and not all, but you can weave at a distance and get magic on heavy attacks plus the CP points to elemental damage.
It's for snare/immobilization removal. Magicka specs out side of templar have no reliable way of countering them, so they are willing to drop staff, which is obviously better, just to have an option to remove snares. Which is sad from magicka PoV.
Mistform and efficient purge. Stop complaining. It’s just that no magicka builds want to slot them and give up one of their unique class skills. Welcome to the world of stamina, everyone uses the same couple of skills to get by because there’s no other choice.
Did you seriously just compared efficient purge with forward momentum in terms of fighting snares/roots?1 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »elfantasmo wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »elfantasmo wrote: »I wanted to ask the community thoughts about adding major sorcery to forward momentum/rally? 2H passively buffs magicka damage so why not? It would be a great addition to the melee magblade toolkit. Please ZOS???
also how does two handed buff magicka damage?? where is it
In the 2hand passives great swords increase you damage by 5% this applies to magicka as well
oh ok but why use a 2 hander over dual wield for magicka? that seems kinda useless.......
To remove and become immune to snares, normally as a melee magblade since your skills will be all melee skills.
you still dont need it over dual wield 2 hander is crud comparibly
How so. Both buff damage. For a Mag player the gains are in a similar place, arguably better with this skill. DW we have zero skills to use.
zero skills to buff it ok let me put it to you like this as someone who uses dualwield on their magblade for pvp. hmm hows about the much higher raw damage you can get from dual wield compared to 2 handed once everything is averaged in and done hmm??0 -
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✭✭✭kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »Overall with the 8% bonus to AoE or Single Target damage this is better then the buff from melee weapons. Sure you get a sightly bigger bonus to one area and not all, but you can weave at a distance and get magic on heavy attacks plus the CP points to elemental damage.
It's for snare/immobilization removal. Magicka specs out side of templar have no reliable way of countering them, so they are willing to drop staff, which is obviously better, just to have an option to remove snares. Which is sad from magicka PoV.
Mistform and efficient purge. Stop complaining. It’s just that no magicka builds want to slot them and give up one of their unique class skills. Welcome to the world of stamina, everyone uses the same couple of skills to get by because there’s no other choice.
Both are ***, purge more so. If mag players didn't want to sacrifice, why would they lose damage and a slot to use FM?
That may have been the worst strawman argument I have even seen.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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