At this point the advanced species passive should be renamed to endangered species...

Jokes aside, magden really needs a non ultimate execute... maybe rework fetcher infection to have execute scaling like poison injection...

They should also have a non ultimate class based stun and a snare somewhere is it’s “tanking tree” as this is the case with every other class...

The real issue with the class is too much of the classes damage, crowd control, and lethality is focused on its ultimates and not enough in its base skills... stamden makes up for these losses with weapon lines but magden can’t really pick up a destro and suddenly have access to an execute or mobility like Stam can with two handed

That will most certainly work for battlegrounds and against other mages and the breach with be hilariously good for permafrost bombing

But against good stam characters an undodgeable stun will be necessary even if you keep 100% uptime on corrupting pollen... the only good undodgeable stun I can see using on an ice mage is borrowed time from the psyjic order line but that 1.5s casttime will take some getting used to... but yes I too am looking foreword to having major breach.

But I cant see myself using heavy armor... haven’t used it since the heavy armor meta with my mag blade and the old siphoning strikes pre morrowind.

Chances are I will just grab a masters inferno and reach spam my sorrows away on squishy no impen vampires

Ive been wondering if it would be also better to shift several abilites to Ice damage ive tested out so many builds and theory crafted well over 1mill gold on live. Even made a viable nybrid with over 40k magica and over 30k stamina Dark elf. The reason being to add a more abilities to ice would be to add a stun to screaming cliff racer (because of chilled) could also give a nice buff from the winters embrace tree. Just how the abilies on Stamden how fissure morphs to poison why not fissure shift to Ice dmg? this would increase diversity on builds for Ive been DYING to use Ysgamors set with Winterborn! Every other class has there one element they focus on why not wardens? Would be TRUELY a Ice warden! I would say to also change " deals up to 15% more damage based on how far the enemy is away" to our execute example would be " when ebemy falls below 25% health Cliff racer dmg is increased to X amount of Ice dmg "? Or buff dmg to be on par with other classes more heavy ability attack to make it more spicy? You could also put the Eternal Guardian do a pulse like ice dmg effect to make it more usable because atm its one of the worse pets out there. We could also change the morphs on Fetcher flies for one to cause Poison dmg and as like someone pointed out to be like a poison arrow and for the magic version to do the same but in Ice damage these are some of the big ideas I have brained stormed for a while I just want More versatility and see a lot more builds that use a little of everything out there!

I've been playing magden since it came out.

This class is lacking several things.
It's playstyle is not unique but a bad copy of other classes.

Warden doesn't have access to huge shields, no class CC.

They just have to think if you want it to be ranged or melee.

It is clear that you have no idea if it has to be a ranged "Pet controller", or something involved with ice and melee fights.

In both cases it' underperforming and simply useless. It would be weaker than a magsorc (shields, damage, mobility) or any melee class the other way.


Just fix your idea about it and give him some proper active and passive skills (change some passives from the Ice tree).

Thank you...

Jeezye wrote: »

SoulReaperSyn93 wrote: »

I would say to also change " deals up to 15% more damage based on how far the enemy is away" to our execute example would be " when ebemy falls below 25% health Cliff racer dmg is increased to X amount of Ice dmg "?!

Regarding stuns, I’d really like to have a passive in winters wrath that stuns chilled enemies when hit by winters wrath abilities.

That's a great idea. It's clear they want Winter's Embrace to be the tanking tree. This change would allow them to keep that design while also giving PVP Wardens a reason to slot a Winter's Embrace ability other than Permafrost. I also like the defensive-offensive synergy this would give magwardens: we would open up an offensive window by utilizing our defensive abilities.