I've been seeing this also, It appear that changing your language at the top right corner doesn't hide the text for the other languages.

It's just a user interface issue so I doubt it would be changed in the near future but it is something I would like to see changed myself.

yup its realllllllly anoying

it`s a menu people, click on the english titles, poof english only! English is always first. Just look for the [EN] and click on those. How is that annoying or difficult? Takes a few minutes to get used to but I personally like it *shrug*

lioslinn wrote: »

it`s a menu people, click on the english titles, poof english only! English is always first. Just look for the [EN] and click on those. How is that annoying or difficult? Takes a few minutes to get used to but I personally like it *shrug*

when I click on the english titles of forums I still see a bunch of stuff in german & french.. I thought that was clear from my first post but.. ya.

PhamTrinli wrote: »

lioslinn wrote: »

it`s a menu people, click on the english titles, poof english only! English is always first. Just look for the [EN] and click on those. How is that annoying or difficult? Takes a few minutes to get used to but I personally like it *shrug*

when I click on the english titles of forums I still see a bunch of stuff in german & french.. I thought that was clear from my first post but.. ya.

What do you mean? Let`s say you clicked on Customer Support. Then the first thing you see is Customer support [EN] . Click on that and you end up here, english only...? It does take a bit of getting used to, like any new forum but soon you`ll be navigating like a pro

You do not understand the forum layout at all.

On the main forum page, each item has an English [which is also the url], German and French description. This holds all Sub-forums and Threads in all three languages.

When you enter into the subforum, by clicking on say Official News and Discussions, you end up with a cluster of additional subforums and threads.

In that example and in this order:

Developer Discussion is an English only sub-forum.
Entwicklerdisussion is a German only sub-forum [which means Developer Discussion]
Discussion des developpeurs is a French only sub-forum [which also means Developer Discussion]

Patch Notes is an English, German and French Sub-Forum
-Patch-Notizen konnen hier gelesen werden is German [roughly] for Patch Notes
-Les notes de version peuvent etres lues ici is the same for French

Server Status is exactly the same way as Patch Notes.


It's not rocket science.

If a forum contains descriptions in all 3 languages, it has forums and threads within it in all 3 languages.

If it does not, it is that language only. This is intended.

So if this is working as intended as you suggest, then I have a real problem with the way it is designed. It makes no sense to have language options if everything is going to be displayed in all languages all the time regardless.

Before you reply, that setting for EN/DE/FR at the top isn't for the forum's persay but the entire Elderscrollsonline.com website.

The forums are separate in that regard and it makes sense that they are. Two different systems.

Shineko wrote: »

PhamTrinli wrote: »

So if this is working as intended as you suggest, then I have a real problem with the way it is designed. It makes no sense to have language options if everything is going to be displayed in all languages all the time regardless.

I suspect you never clicked on anything but EN at the top
Go ahead. Click DE and then look at the difference all over the page. I'll wait.

I clicked it but I already know what you're pointing out. I'm saying that I have a problem with that design. Languages need to be completely separate from each other within the forums. Click EN = everything is in english. Everything. Click DE = everything is in German. Everything. Get it? That's what I'm saying it should be like. And I don't think that is odd or unorthodox at all. In fact, I would say that way would be expected by most people. And I don't think it's too much to ask either. It's basically just a simple style sheet change.

"And I don't think it's too much to ask either. It's basically just a simple style sheet change."

Wrong. It would require three separate forums worth of boards for each language. As of now, it is hybridized to reduce the amount of boards required for any given scenario.

Boards with a large amount of potential threads have their own sub board for their language.

Boards with a small amount, like Service Status, have all 3 languages in one. A simple switch for each different language would require more boards in total at a lot of back end work to make a "Show this language only" option in a given sub board over something incredibly meager.

Actually i'd prefer a NA and EU server, but if not please segregate the languages its insanely confusing.

Lascoux wrote: »

Wow Shineko are you seriously arguing about this with us? Got to be trolling. The design is BROKEN at best and at worst horrific design practice. You can code a page to display one language at a time - and it's actually easier than displaying all at once for large websites like this. I know what I'm talking about because I've done it before.

On the one hand, I agree that the forums are clunky and not visually appealing and could probably be changed.

On the other hand, the idea that having more than one language at once is terribly confusing and a burden on your sensitivities is silly. It's really not that hard to navigate the forums, even with the extra languages. Just because you want to be able to blindly click without thinking isn't a grounds for something being a design flaw.

I took both French and German in HS, so I'm really enjoying the refresher... lol
My notifications are coming to me in French (I assume the poster's language), and the forum headers not in English are in German. They should add Pig Latin for a measure of levity.

PhamTrinli wrote: »

Shineko wrote: »

The forum operates differently in that they would need to overhaul the php coding and SQL to limit language specific forum content.

Just .. no. No, dude.

Shineko wrote: »

but merely pointing out how in fact it is done and why it is done that way.

There is no legitimate reason to do it this way beyond simple lack of time, resources, personnel, knowledge, experience - or complete apathy.

Shineko wrote: »

Learn to reading comprehension.

Oh, the irony.

You were the one with the stupid question for customer support that had an obvious answer.

And yes, forum threads operate on Queries, usually SQL or some other databasing query. PHP is common for permissions as well as some front end programming and utilizes SQL querying.

It's gonna take more than "Just .. no. No, dude." to convince a software developer that she's wrong seeing as I've coded websites for clients that use asp.net and php accordingly to make database queries in MySQL. Do you think that all data is just stored on the forum magically and modified by fairies every time someone wants to add a post?

PhamTrinli wrote: »

Shineko wrote: »

And yes, forum threads operate on Queries, usually SQL or some other databasing query. PHP is common for permissions as well as some front end programming and utilizes SQL querying.

It's gonna take more than "Just .. no. No, dude." to convince a software developer that she's wrong seeing as I've coded websites for clients that use asp.net and php accordingly to make database queries in MySQL. Do you think that all data is just stored on the forum magically and modified by fairies every time someone wants to add a post?

Ok, then how about a little education? https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-lang
- languages done easily, with style sheets. Very little PHP modification needed, absolutely no alteration to any database code (you don't use SQL or other relational databases to store style sheets or html or web pages in general).

Your solution requires 3 different databases, resulting in an overhaul of the currently existing 1 database. It uses up more disk space as databases are generally compressed due to redundant data. No, you would be far better off with modifying queries and adding a filtering small int data value for board language. To accomplish the 'same' thing. Using the method you mentioned doesn't work the way you 'think' it works. I know you don't actually deal with databases, it's obvious.

I'm out of this troll thread. Peace.