So, is Break Free supposed to work in battlegrounds?

Kel · April 2018

Because it doesn't.....at all. I've been feared, stunned, locked down in burning talons, all without being able to break free.
Getting killed is inevitable. But it's frustrating when you just get stunned and instantly get killed because a base mechanic of the game isn't working.
And this isn't some diminished return thing, where I've broken free once then get locked down..this happens the first time.
Immovability pots are fine, but if you get caught out after its duration, you are dead.

What's the deal with break free in battlegrounds? Honestly, is it supposed to work?

Toc de Malsvi · April 2018

It's just the Dragon Bones update, break free was having issues on the PTS and is still having issues.

Gilvoth · April 2018

it is not working, and not just in battle grounds.
it also does not work in cryodiil.

bardx86 · April 2018

It's *** BROKEN!

Aznox · April 2018

jabrone77 wrote: »

Because it doesn't.....at all. I've been feared, stunned, locked down in burning talons, all without being able to break free.
Getting killed is inevitable. But it's frustrating when you just get stunned and instantly get killed because a base mechanic of the game isn't working.

Or because you didn't try to understand said mechanics ?

You will receive 7 seconds of immunity to Hard CC after you break free or they expire
You will receive 2 seconds of root immunity after you roll dodge out of one

The chain of event you described is not in contradiction with game mechanics :

Get a fear effect applied on you
Get a stun effect applied on you, before the fear has expired, then break free (you gain 7 seconds hard CC immunity)
Get a root effect applied on you (hard CC immunity does not protect against root)

If not, then you need to tell us more about your problem, because i'm playing several battlegrounds a day, and outside of one or two nights per month where the servers are notably laggy, i never encounter any issue with break free.

Kel · April 2018

I'm talking about breaking free of talons, having the cost come off my stamina bar, yet I haven't broken free at all while I'm still getting whipped in my back by a DK. I'm talking about getting feared, breaking free and standing still until the animation goes off and having a few seconds where I can't move or hit any buttons.
I fully understand the mechanics. Sometimes it just doesn't work.
Yes, I have submitted bug reports. And I'm not the only one with this issue. (PS4 EU)
Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Glad you haven't, honestly. It's frustrating.

DeadlyRecluse · April 2018

jabrone77 wrote: »

I'm talking about breaking free of talons, having the cost come off my stamina bar, yet I haven't broken free at all while I'm still getting whipped in my back by a DK.....
I fully understand the mechanics.

You can't break free of talons, though--I think that's the confusion people are having with your narrative here.

But yeah, CC has been kinda buggy this patch. Not as bugged-out as it's been in some past patches, but I get a few unbreakable CCs an hour, and a few barswap locks, etc. etc.

Aznox · April 2018

jabrone77 wrote: »

I fully understand the mechanics. Sometimes it just doesn't work.

I am playing on a high-end PC with fiber internet, so if you are saying you have regular lags preventing you from breaking free as soon as possible, i believe you.

Does not change the fact you are trying to break free from a root, which is impossible.

Kel · April 2018

Aznox wrote: »

jabrone77 wrote: »

I fully understand the mechanics. Sometimes it just doesn't work.

I am playing on a high-end PC with fiber internet, so if you are saying you have regular lags preventing you from breaking free as soon as possible, i believe you.

Does not change the fact you are trying to break free from a root, which is impossible.

I knew what your response was going to be before I checked it...
I don't understand your salt, but yes, ok..can't break free from a root...got ya. Doesn't mean fear is being wonky, doesn't change the fact it's an issue breaking free of a knock down.
Still doesn't change the fact I'm not alone in this issue, nor is it a "console pleb" issue.
That fact hasn't changed either.
/shrug
You're not helping, you're only being salty.
Thanks, I guess. You win...I don't know what...be you can move on being happy you won.
Congrats.....

Aznox · April 2018

Why would i be salty ?

I'm just giving a bit of my time to share knowledge about game mechanics so you can enjoy the game more (and admittedly in the hope to reduce the amount of uninformed posts on this forum)

Consoles represent a large portion of this game user-base an revenue and deserve the best experience that is possible to provide, but regarding problems that are not mechanics related, i can't offer anything more than my sincere sympathy

Kel · April 2018

You're of the opinion that it hasn't happened to you personally, so it doesn't exsist. Despite the fact that in this thread (as well as others) it's been mentioned that break free has been an issue since this patch, across all platforms.
Any futher response to you will be a pointless waste of time, you have your mind made up and nothing will change it...Unless it happens to you personally, that is. Truly glad it hasn't been an issue for you so far. Hope that continues to be the case.
Brushing off an issue because you haven't experienced it helps no one, however.

Aznox · April 2018

jabrone77 wrote: »

You're of the opinion that it hasn't happened to you personally, so it doesn't exsist.

I never said this, if i wasn't clear and you understood that way, then i am sorry.

Aznox wrote: »

I am playing on a high-end PC with fiber internet, so if you are saying you have regular lags preventing you from breaking free as soon as possible, i believe you.

I meant this, i work in IT and i know problems don't happen server side only, client (PC/Console) and the connection between them are a frequent source for problems. Again, i'm not discharging ZoS in anyway as i have no idea where in the chain your (and others like you) problem is originated.

Thogard · April 2018

There are a lot of bugs with knockbacks at present... really it’s any CC with a 2 part animation. Javelin, draining shot, fear, and vamp stun are the ones I’m currently aware of.

Breaking free during the first animation will not do anything... because if the first part of the CC could give immunity then there wouldn’t BE a second part to the CC. It’s lazy coding, and it usually isn’t a problem. But when it gets laggy and that first part of the animation drags on longer than usual, a small problem becomes a big problem.

wheem_ESO · April 2018

What I really hate is when a CC lands without any indication, and my character just stops responding. This sort of a delay happens constantly with Fear and Incap, but is also somewhat common with Dawnbreaker. There's also been an issue lately where trying to break free when you don't quite have enough stamina will cause the character to stand up as though they've broken free, but remain CC'd. If you realize that in time, you can probably break free after another tick of regen (assuming you're still alive), but if you think you're in the clear because your character pops up, it can get annoying when your spells and abilities don't fire off as expected.

LokoMatic · April 2018

At least on the Xbox I can vouch that there are issues with break free. It doesn't happen too often, but there are several times a night where I'll have full stam and am unable to break free accordingly. I have written it off it's been occurring mostly after the last update.