Stam is just as hard to kill as Magic with 100 cost Resto ult
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The title says it. This is honestly something thats begun to annoy me more and more. Magicka used to be able to 1vX the same and take as much punishment as stamina through Resto ult. But now it seems with the amount of rolling stamina can do that they outclass that amount by far. Opinions bellow
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Stam is just as hard to kill as Magic with 100 cost Resto ult 25 votes
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Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoWhenever I'm PvPing, and I encounter a tough to kill opponent it's never a stam character. Stam just dies easily.1 -
Own✭✭✭✭YesAs a stamblade, Dodge rolling is out of control. Tumbling cp shpuld max at 16%. Well fitted at 3 or 4 %. Medium armor down to 3% dodge roll cost.1
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Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Magicka players are trying to nerf stam across the board because of stamblades/stamdens. Its not fair. dodge rolling/cloak offers greater survivability compared to the good old block&heal method. and stamdens have access to free major mending+ shimmering shield.
The rest of the stam classes simply can't compare.Edited by Ragnarock41 on April 21, 2018 4:32PM4 -
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✭✭✭As a stamblade, Dodge rolling is out of control. Tumbling cp shpuld max at 16%. Well fitted at 3 or 4 %. Medium armor down to 3% dodge roll cost.
Its only out of control on a stamblade, since cloak being as strong as it is as a defense, and resetting cloak multiplier.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭OtherRagnarock41 wrote: »Magicka players are trying to nerf stam across the board because of stamblades/stamdens. Its not fair. dodge rolling/cloak offers greater survivability compared to the good old block&heal method. and stamdens have access to free major mending+ shimmering shield.
The rest of the stam classes simply can't compare.
This... Nails it.
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Abysswarrior45✭✭✭✭NoCurse, hurricane, implosion, sorc execute, destro ult, soul assault, force pulse, deep breath, fossilize, rune cage, dots from the burning status for all the flame reach spamming nowadays, dots in general when applied, zaan, jabs, shalks, permafrost, fear, soul tether, etc.
Those are all undodgeable. Furthermore, mag chars don't have to deal with heal debuffs and armor penetration like stam chars do. Mag chars have shields!!! Stam chars have it harder than mag at this point, buddy. The exceptions to that rule are obviously stamden and stamblade. Roll dodging can't be spammed forever and its a medium armor users only defense against burst and easily countered with the above skills.1 -
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✭✭Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Curse, hurricane, implosion, sorc execute, destro ult, soul assault, force pulse, deep breath, fossilize, rune cage, dots from the burning status for all the flame reach spamming nowadays, dots in general when applied, zaan, jabs, shalks, permafrost, fear, soul tether, etc.
Those are all undodgeable. Furthermore, mag chars don't have to deal with heal debuffs and armor penetration like stam chars do. Mag chars have shields!!! Stam chars have it harder than mag at this point, buddy. The exceptions to that rule are obviously stamden and stamblade. Roll dodging can't be spammed forever and its a medium armor users only defense against burst and easily countered with the above skills.
Given your faulty information, I doubt you're actually in a position to judge balance between magicka and stamina builds.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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✭✭YesAbysswarrior45 wrote: »Curse, hurricane, implosion, sorc execute, destro ult, soul assault, force pulse, deep breath, fossilize, rune cage, dots from the burning status for all the flame reach spamming nowadays, dots in general when applied, zaan, jabs, shalks, permafrost, fear, soul tether, etc.
Those are all undodgeable. Furthermore, mag chars don't have to deal with heal debuffs and armor penetration like stam chars do. Mag chars have shields!!! Stam chars have it harder than mag at this point, buddy. The exceptions to that rule are obviously stamden and stamblade. Roll dodging can't be spammed forever and its a medium armor users only defense against burst and easily countered with the above skills.
Take off soul tether cuz that always gets dodgedFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info0 -
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✭YesDodge rolling is out of control on all builds. It always has been. It's just zergs had so many undodgeable abilities that it made medium impossible to play. Those are gone now so you see a rise in medium armor players. A regular build though without all those undogeable skills has always realized the strength of medium armor and Dodge roll. Heavy armor is also still really good for stamina because of the sets. It's slot of 30k resist 5k weapon damage Stam builds around0 -
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✭✭NoThose damn dodge rollers. Even though stamplar, stam sorc, and stam dk absolutely need it to survive in medium, I still think I’d rather face a heavy armor reactive malubeth BOL spamming magplar because dodge roll is so op.Edited by templesus on April 21, 2018 7:24PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭Those damn dodge rollers. Even though stamplar, stam sorc, and stam dk absolutely need it to survive in medium, I still think I’d rather face a heavy armor reactive malubeth BOL spamming magplar because dodge roll is so op.
Is dodge roll really the problem here, or is it classes with the tools to reset that dodge roll cost multiplier?
I think the second. And unless all classes have defence tools as good as cloak or shimmering, dodge roll should stay as it is.
If a nerf is needed, nerf those two abilities. they are extremely cost effective even without dodge rolls involved.Edited by Ragnarock41 on April 21, 2018 8:18PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Curse, hurricane, implosion, sorc execute, destro ult, soul assault, force pulse, deep breath, fossilize, rune cage, dots from the burning status for all the flame reach spamming nowadays, dots in general when applied, zaan, jabs, shalks, permafrost, fear, soul tether, etc.
Those are all undodgeable. Furthermore, mag chars don't have to deal with heal debuffs and armor penetration like stam chars do. Mag chars have shields!!! Stam chars have it harder than mag at this point, buddy. The exceptions to that rule are obviously stamden and stamblade. Roll dodging can't be spammed forever and its a medium armor users only defense against burst and easily countered with the above skills.
You don't know what you are saying, when you believe that force pulse is undodgeable. It may seem like a beam to you, but it's not.
Let's not get started on the potency of stamina bleeds, which outperforms any pitiful magicka dot.Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac my ward,
and Magnus my mind.0
