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ZOS are you going to ruin Summerset for me like you did Morrowind?

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    I really don't care about furniture and housing anymore, it's just too overwhelming. The amount of materials I need to craft things and worrying about my house space ("what should I remove in order to place this new thing?"). Not to mention the master writs I have to do to buy the stations, there's no reason to buy a second house because of the stations.

    But I really agree, I miss Doshia difficulty, and questing should be much MUCH rewarding in loot and XP.
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    I use my Snugpod for a trophy room and to display the Busts I receive for pledges..... and for a FREE port from any PvE area in Tamriel.... (big gold sink there ZOS....)
    Edited by Sting864 on April 18, 2018 5:23PM
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    the actual GAMEPLAY is no longer among them. I'm asking Zeno to stop ruining the few things I still like.

    Why would GAMEPLAY be limited to only combat-oriented activities?? You play every time you log in... you just don't FIGHT every time you log in...

    The point is though that the game was originally built around questing and combat, both PvE and PvP. Most MMOs are. Things like roleplay (never supported by the devs) and player housing (loved by roleplayers who also spend a ton on it) were only supposed to be periphery things. Yet now they are the only things about the game that still interest me.
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    Could not agree more!

    I do not like being a negative bunny, but the marketing and pricing of this game is just outstanding bad. Most of the crown store items are an automatic no due to the price, I don't even bother looking there much anymore.

    Especially the time limited, blink-and-you’ll-miss-it items. And don’t get me started on the whale crates they lock stuff behind.

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    I agree. When housing was first announced I didn't have much interest in it. I mainly pvp, I am taking a long break from it currently, and a few friends and I progress through the dlc dungeons. I am not interested in nor do I care about earning large sums of fake money.

    I played around with the housing on the pts and found it was more enjoyable than I thought it would be. When the housing update released I bought Mournoth and found decorating it really relaxing after the chaos of pvp. I also really liked the furnishing from Morrowind but the drop rate and guild store prices left those firmly out of my reach.

    This statement by @MornaBaine sums up pretty much how I feel. Especially the sofa comment :)
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Well, for starters, why SHOULD a cosmetic item like furnishing patterns BE rare in the first place? The purple and gold items should simply be more expensive to MAKE than the blue and green ones. And I really don't care that the gold items require writs. That's part of the difficulty of making them. I'm fine with being forced to "work" for items that convey in-game advantages. Like gear. But a sofa? Not so much. Furnishing patterns, regardless of whether or not they are green, blue or purple, should be no more rare than the base game motifs are. Nor should the items required to make them be subject to a huge RNG artificial scarcity. They should simply require MORE mats, as they go up in "quality," to make. Being required to spend the time harvesting to make what I want isn't an issue. Being denied the ability to make it AT ALL is what I'm on about here. Furnishing a home is not a matter of showing off how lucky I am with RNG. Because let's face it, that's all it is. It's not like getting a Trial skin which proclaims you were actually good at something and beat a difficult boss. It's literally nothing more than saying, "Hey I got lucky with RNG!" Who cares? And it disrupts and destroys the ability to decorate in a harmonious and aesthetically pleasing way... which is literally what player housing SHOULD be about.

    I have finished decorating Mournoth as well as I can but as things are now I am not going to buy any more houses if I can't decorate them how I want.

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    Osteos wrote: »
    I have finished decorating Mournoth as well as I can but as things are now I am not going to buy any more houses if I can't decorate them how I want.

    Of course, for some Housing offers a chance to get their inner interior designer on, but housing serves another important strategic role.Housing is far more useful than just for playing SIMS. Did you know that that FREE apartment that came with the Housing DLC allows you to port to it for FREE from any PvE location in Tamriel? (Wow.... The greed is strong here...)
    Thanks ZOS...
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    Osteos wrote: »
    I have finished decorating Mournoth as well as I can but as things are now I am not going to buy any more houses if I can't decorate them how I want.

    Of course, for some Housing offers a chance to get their inner interior designer on, but housing serves another important strategic role.Housing is far more useful than just for playing SIMS. Did you know that that FREE apartment that came with the Housing DLC allows you to port to it for FREE from any PvE location in Tamriel? (Wow.... The greed is strong here...)
    Thanks ZOS...

    I don't really understand your point. Yes I can port to houses I own whether I purchased them or got them for free. It's a nice feature for sure but I can also port to anyone on my friends list or in a guild for free as well so its not some novel invention exclusive to housing.

    I would just like to be able to loot furnishing plans so I can make the style of sofa I like. If not wanting to get fleeced by my fellow players or the crown story is greedy well then I guess I'm greedy.
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  • Sting864
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    Osteos wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »

    Of course, for some Housing offers a chance to get their inner interior designer on, but housing serves another important strategic role.Housing is far more useful than just for playing SIMS. Did you know that that FREE apartment that came with the Housing DLC allows you to port to it for FREE from any PvE location in Tamriel? (Wow.... The greed is strong here...)
    Thanks ZOS...

    I don't really understand your point. Yes I can port to houses I own whether I purchased them or got them for free. It's a nice feature for sure but I can also port to anyone on my friends list or in a guild for free as well so its not some novel invention exclusive to housing.

    I would just like to be able to loot furnishing plans so I can make the style of sofa I like. If not wanting to get fleeced by my fellow players or the crown story is greedy well then I guess I'm greedy.

    No one said it was exclusive to housing... Someone (me) DID say it was often overlooked... And someone (me again...) said "Thanks ZOS..." instead of whining....
    Edited by Sting864 on April 18, 2018 8:02PM
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    Osteos wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »
    Osteos wrote: »
    I have finished decorating Mournoth as well as I can but as things are now I am not going to buy any more houses if I can't decorate them how I want.

    Of course, for some Housing offers a chance to get their inner interior designer on, but housing serves another important strategic role.Housing is far more useful than just for playing SIMS. Did you know that that FREE apartment that came with the Housing DLC allows you to port to it for FREE from any PvE location in Tamriel? (Wow.... The greed is strong here...)
    Thanks ZOS...

    I don't really understand your point. Yes I can port to houses I own whether I purchased them or got them for free. It's a nice feature for sure but I can also port to anyone on my friends list or in a guild for free as well so its not some novel invention exclusive to housing.

    I would just like to be able to loot furnishing plans so I can make the style of sofa I like. If not wanting to get fleeced by my fellow players or the crown story is greedy well then I guess I'm greedy.

    the thing is.. you are not even getting fleeced by your fellow players becasue they are dealing with low drop rates too and THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.

    whenever people are going "just buy it from guild vendors... those people are not aware of just how many furnishing items from morrowind were not available in game outside of crown store purchases, until documents were introduced, because IN THE ENTIRE YEAR< ENTIRE HOUSING COMMUNITY WAS UNABLE TO FIND THE SOURCE OF THE BLUEPRINTS. we STILL don't know if they drop in game at all, because all those gorgeous carpets and tapestries? came from 25 voucher blue documents.

    I have personaly done a near insane amount of farming, to the point where I won't need to buy any style stones for basic racial styles for years, to the point where i have been using lorkan's tears as a primary item I sell at guild store for over half a year in addition to crafting all my potions and I still have over 10k of it left over. in all that time farming, prior to release of morrowind documents - I have found maybe 10 purple morrowind patterns? give or take.

    this is unreasonable. that i can fully gear a new character in under a week in BIS gear not counting weapons (unless I don't care about master or VMA ones) and yet it took me a year to collect furnishing patterns, and even that only because they introduced voucher doccuments - drops out in a wild are STILL stupidly rare? its unreasonable. and I'm not saying gearing should take longer. I'm saying that furniture blueprint droprates need MAJOR adjusting.

    and from my puttering on pts. it looks like summerset is going to be even worse, unless they make adjustments before it goes live :/
    dirty worthless casual.
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    Osteos wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »

    Of course, for some Housing offers a chance to get their inner interior designer on, but housing serves another important strategic role.Housing is far more useful than just for playing SIMS. Did you know that that FREE apartment that came with the Housing DLC allows you to port to it for FREE from any PvE location in Tamriel? (Wow.... The greed is strong here...)
    Thanks ZOS...

    I don't really understand your point. Yes I can port to houses I own whether I purchased them or got them for free. It's a nice feature for sure but I can also port to anyone on my friends list or in a guild for free as well so its not some novel invention exclusive to housing.

    I would just like to be able to loot furnishing plans so I can make the style of sofa I like. If not wanting to get fleeced by my fellow players or the crown story is greedy well then I guess I'm greedy.

    No one said it was exclusive to housing... Someone (me) DID say it was often overlooked... And someone (me again...) said "Thanks ZOS..." instead of whining....

    its not overlooked by anyone BUT you. we knew you could use houses as free ports from the day they were added. its just not as commonly used becasue unless you are into housing for the sake of housing, its cheaper to port to guild members instead.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • Sting864
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    Linaleah wrote: »

    its not overlooked by anyone BUT you. we knew you could use houses as free ports from the day they were added. its just not as commonly used becasue unless you are into housing for the sake of housing, its cheaper to port to guild members instead.

    I don't think you are qualified to speak for others... I didn't vote for you.... You are proving my point that it wasn't publicized... Please explain how something can be cheaper than FREE...
    Edited by Sting864 on April 18, 2018 8:22PM
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »

    its not overlooked by anyone BUT you. we knew you could use houses as free ports from the day they were added. its just not as commonly used becasue unless you are into housing for the sake of housing, its cheaper to port to guild members instead.

    I don't think you are qualified to speak for others... I didn't vote for you.... You are proving my point that it wasn't publicized... Please explain how something can be cheaper than FREE...

    Please explain what any of that has to do with the central fact (and actual topic of the OP) that Morrowind furnishing plans are far too hard to come by, which does in fact ruin the enjoyment of MANY people who would otherwise cheerfully spend a lot more money on player housing in general? Please explain what "you can port to your house for free" has to do with the fact that I, and others, are very worried that they are going to ruin our enjoyment of player housing in Summerset by doing the very same thing. You, Sir, are off topic and just looking to pick a fight and derail this thread. Please stop.
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »
    Osteos wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »

    Of course, for some Housing offers a chance to get their inner interior designer on, but housing serves another important strategic role.Housing is far more useful than just for playing SIMS. Did you know that that FREE apartment that came with the Housing DLC allows you to port to it for FREE from any PvE location in Tamriel? (Wow.... The greed is strong here...)
    Thanks ZOS...

    I don't really understand your point. Yes I can port to houses I own whether I purchased them or got them for free. It's a nice feature for sure but I can also port to anyone on my friends list or in a guild for free as well so its not some novel invention exclusive to housing.

    I would just like to be able to loot furnishing plans so I can make the style of sofa I like. If not wanting to get fleeced by my fellow players or the crown story is greedy well then I guess I'm greedy.

    No one said it was exclusive to housing... Someone (me) DID say it was often overlooked... And someone (me again...) said "Thanks ZOS..." instead of whining....

    its not overlooked by anyone BUT you. we knew you could use houses as free ports from the day they were added. its just not as commonly used becasue unless you are into housing for the sake of housing, its cheaper to port to guild members instead.

    That and the extra load screens.
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    Kodrac wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »
    Osteos wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »

    Of course, for some Housing offers a chance to get their inner interior designer on, but housing serves another important strategic role.Housing is far more useful than just for playing SIMS. Did you know that that FREE apartment that came with the Housing DLC allows you to port to it for FREE from any PvE location in Tamriel? (Wow.... The greed is strong here...)
    Thanks ZOS...

    I don't really understand your point. Yes I can port to houses I own whether I purchased them or got them for free. It's a nice feature for sure but I can also port to anyone on my friends list or in a guild for free as well so its not some novel invention exclusive to housing.

    I would just like to be able to loot furnishing plans so I can make the style of sofa I like. If not wanting to get fleeced by my fellow players or the crown story is greedy well then I guess I'm greedy.

    No one said it was exclusive to housing... Someone (me) DID say it was often overlooked... And someone (me again...) said "Thanks ZOS..." instead of whining....

    its not overlooked by anyone BUT you. we knew you could use houses as free ports from the day they were added. its just not as commonly used becasue unless you are into housing for the sake of housing, its cheaper to port to guild members instead.

    That and the extra load screens.

    So is it just me to whom it seems loadscreens are longer when you port to a house than when you port from a wayshrine? And say, I'm done with a dungeon or delve and I don't want to run all the way back out of it. So I port to a house. Load Screen. I then leave the house. Load Screen. Go to a wayshrine to get to the wayshrine in the location I actually WANT to be in. Load Screen. Honestly, there have been times I've paid the gold to get directly where I want to be. ONE loadscreen. "Free" porting... ain't all that.
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  • Sting864
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    MornaBaine wrote: »

    Please explain what any of that has to do with the central fact (and actual topic of the OP) that Morrowind furnishing plans are far too hard to come by, which does in fact ruin the enjoyment of MANY people who would otherwise cheerfully spend a lot more money on player housing in general? Please explain what "you can port to your house for free" has to do with the fact that I, and others, are very worried that they are going to ruin our enjoyment of player housing in Summerset by doing the very same thing. You, Sir, are off topic and just looking to pick a fight and derail this thread. Please stop.

    You said, and I quote,
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    So what DO I give you my subscription money for? Roleplay in the Elder Scrolls setting. The pretty graphics. Player Housing. Yep, that's pretty much it... I still enjoy your far more expensive version of The Sims that I can play with friends.

    I explained that it was more than the Sims...
    [Snip].

    [Edited to remove bait]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on April 21, 2018 3:37PM
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »

    Please explain what any of that has to do with the central fact (and actual topic of the OP) that Morrowind furnishing plans are far too hard to come by, which does in fact ruin the enjoyment of MANY people who would otherwise cheerfully spend a lot more money on player housing in general? Please explain what "you can port to your house for free" has to do with the fact that I, and others, are very worried that they are going to ruin our enjoyment of player housing in Summerset by doing the very same thing. You, Sir, are off topic and just looking to pick a fight and derail this thread. Please stop.

    You said, and I quote,
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    So what DO I give you my subscription money for? Roleplay in the Elder Scrolls setting. The pretty graphics. Player Housing. Yep, that's pretty much it... I still enjoy your far more expensive version of The Sims that I can play with friends.

    I explained that it was more than the Sims...
    [Snip].

    You are... really reaching. "Free" ports between houses in no way makes up for the loss of enjoyable gameplay nor does it make this game "more" than The Sims. Heck... it doesn't cost me anything to go from one place to another in The Sims at all...and the load screens are shorter. LOL

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on April 21, 2018 3:41PM
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , as community managers you should really read this . It's not only true for Morna but many of my friends that have ventured off for other games like the new warhammer . PvP is what saves me from these challenges and love of the game and love of ZoS . I know you guys care and some of this is out of everyone's hands in development and community manager's , controlled by marketing execs . But you guys are these players only hope of returning some sanity to this situation . Please consider and pass on what Morna is saying in a way only you guys can .

    @ZOS_RichLambert and @ZOS_MattFiror , You guys should consider this too . Look at all the agrees . Even if not your department .
    Edited by Rohamad_Ali on April 18, 2018 9:30PM
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    You are... really reaching. "Free" ports between houses in no way makes up for the loss of enjoyable gameplay nor does it make this game "more" than The Sims. Heck... it doesn't cost me anything to go from one place to another in The Sims at all...and the load screens are shorter. LOL

    Not reaching at all.... You said Housing was just an expensive way to play the Sims I showed how it was much more than just the Sims... You asked how it relates... I just showed you... Done and done... BT-dubs imo, FREE ports to a FREE house makes for enjoyable gameplay...
    Edited by Sting864 on April 18, 2018 9:52PM
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »

    its not overlooked by anyone BUT you. we knew you could use houses as free ports from the day they were added. its just not as commonly used becasue unless you are into housing for the sake of housing, its cheaper to port to guild members instead.

    I don't think you are qualified to speak for others... I didn't vote for you.... You are proving my point that it wasn't publicized... Please explain how something can be cheaper than FREE...

    becasue houses themselves are not free? you have to buy them first. however, traveling to guild mates? IS free. this is why house traveling, which when houses did come out was absolutely publicized, is also not widely used. becasue YOU HAVE TO BUY IT FIRST. only inn rooms are free. and only if you create 4 different character 3 of which have to be in different alliances.

    so its a very expensive, incredibly EXCEPTIONALLY expensive way to travel around. and as such.. not worth it for that alone. (and yes, extra loading screens.)
    Edited by Linaleah on April 18, 2018 10:49PM
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    so its a very expensive, incredibly EXCEPTIONALLY expensive way to travel around. and as such.. not worth it for that alone. (and yes, extra loading screens.)

    I don't believe anything but the FREE apartment was mentioned (Besides my humble Snugpod, which was bought with in-game gold, which is free... unless you're a gold-selling bot...) FREE is worth it.... BT-dubs... it's the FREE apartment that's a few unguarded steps from a wayshrine... you can't swing a dead skeever and not hit a guard between the Snugpod and the wayshrine...
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    Caitsith wrote: »
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    Shoulder pads are back?
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    So out of a mmo... you want sims online..
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    becasue houses themselves are not free... inn rooms are free.

    Seems like a contradiction, doesn't it?? OK go ahead and lock this one up... It's over....
    Edited by Sting864 on April 19, 2018 1:06AM
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    becasue houses themselves are not free... inn rooms are free.

    Seems like a contradiction, doesn't it?? OK go ahead and lock this one up... It's over....

    there is. no. contradiction.

    inn room =/= house. moreover, every character right now? gets those wayshrines unlocked by default. wayshrines in this game are everywhere. tell me. what is better. walking couple of steps to the wayshrine to travel to one of those inn room cities directly and saving yourself a loading screen. or traveling to one loading screen, then dealing with another loading screen to exit it to the city itself? tell me... what is better. buying houses in other places with 11k gold and up and still dealing with those extra screens.... or, traveling to guild member, no prior purchase required?

    we KNOW you can travel to houses. its just not all its cracked out to be. that's why after initial realization early on? after people realized that traveling to guild members is STILL better? its stop being anything resembling a reason to get into housing. its not a perk worth considering. WE know it exists. we knew all along. does it make buying a 1 million home in a middle of nowhere worth buying, just becasue you can keep traveling to it? becasue THAT is what you seem to be implying here.

    there is NOT strategic reason to use port to house over other means. NONE.
    Edited by Linaleah on April 19, 2018 1:29AM
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    So out of a mmo... you want sims online..

    No. I said the things that basically make it like The Sims (though far more expensive) are the only things that still make it interesting as the gameplay has become so bad. That's.... not a good thing, and not at all what I wanted out of an MMO.
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    becasue houses themselves are not free... inn rooms are free.

    Seems like a contradiction, doesn't it?? OK go ahead and lock this one up... It's over....

    there is. no. contradiction.

    inn room =/= house. ***You're right... inn rooms ARE FREE! Besides that, what's different??****

    moreover, every character right now? gets those wayshrines unlocked by default. wayshrines in this game are everywhere. tell me. what is better. walking couple of steps to the wayshrine to travel to one of those inn room cities directly and saving yourself a loading screen. or traveling to one loading screen, then dealing with another loading screen to exit it to the city itself? tell me... what is better. buying houses in other places with 11k gold and up and still dealing with those extra screens.... or, traveling to guild member, no prior purchase required?


    there is NOT strategic reason to use port to house over other means. NONE.

    I was in a town... let's say upstairs in the Big Tree in Elden Root... Guards were between me and the Outlaw's Refuge where I needed to go... I was crouched down and hiding in a plant... I could travel to a friend or guildmate... YEAH that's the ticket... let's open up the contact menu.... OK it says I have guildmates in Grahtwood... Grahtwood.... Is that in Elden Root?? Haven?? Bangkhari trading post?? How do I know?? Hmm... I know exactly where my house is.... I'll just port there... pretty strategic huh??
    Edited by Sting864 on April 19, 2018 4:43AM
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    Sting864 wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    Sting864 wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    becasue houses themselves are not free... inn rooms are free.

    Seems like a contradiction, doesn't it?? OK go ahead and lock this one up... It's over....

    there is. no. contradiction.

    inn room =/= house. ***You're right... inn rooms ARE FREE! Besides that, what's different??****

    moreover, every character right now? gets those wayshrines unlocked by default. wayshrines in this game are everywhere. tell me. what is better. walking couple of steps to the wayshrine to travel to one of those inn room cities directly and saving yourself a loading screen. or traveling to one loading screen, then dealing with another loading screen to exit it to the city itself? tell me... what is better. buying houses in other places with 11k gold and up and still dealing with those extra screens.... or, traveling to guild member, no prior purchase required?


    there is NOT strategic reason to use port to house over other means. NONE.

    I was in a town... let's say upstairs in the Big Tree in Elden Root... Guards were between me and the Outlaw's Refuge where I needed to go... I was crouched down and hiding in a plant... I could travel to a friend or guildmate... YEAH that's the ticket... let's open up the contact menu.... OK it says I have guildmates in Grahtwood... Grahtwood.... Is that in Elden Root?? Haven?? Bangkhari trading post?? How do I know?? Hmm... I know exactly where my house is.... I'll just port there... pretty strategic huh??

    not even best location to port to by far. you know what location is best to port to if you have bounty? Davon's watch. becasue the shrine, unlike the snugpod - is OUTSIDE the city gate, away from all the guards completely. baring that - if you MUST use the house to port to to avoid the guards... Sleek Creek house. outside the city bounds, right next to the refuge. but yeah... lets create a hypothetical scenario with a solution that's not even really a solution.

    at least... if you port to a guildy, ANY guildy - you port to a wayshrine, and if you so insist on dealing with loading screens, this way you can still deal with those 2 loading screens, but port to a better location for avoiding capture - afterwards.

    using houses solely to port to is neither efficient nor free. becasue even that snugpod? you have to pay 45k gold for. do you know how many trips to Davon's watch from wherever it is you are hiding with your bounty you could have made for that much gold?

    the only reason to get houses outside of the free rooms is becasue you like decorating them for whatever reason - whether its for roleplay, or just because. maybe you want to have your own crafting area that has no other people around. you may want to set up training dummies. those are actualy good reasons to have a house. but using them as port as your reason to have a house? is just... oh might as well say it - its silly. its a minor bonus IF you already have homes for other reasons. but that's it. and its a minor bonus that was never overlooked. its just not even remotely deciding factor on whether housing system is well done or not. its NOT a redeeming feature. and... it has NO bearing on the actual issues we are discussing there.
    Edited by Linaleah on April 19, 2018 8:55AM
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • MornaBaine
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    I appreciate the positive feedback and relatively low number of trolls this thread is getting. Please continue to let ZOS know how you feel about the potential Summerset furnishing plan drops. Maybe if they understand this actually cuts into their bottom line by discouraging players from buying houses and how it drives players away from the game in frustration we'll finally be able to get through to them on this issue at least.

    In the meantime, I'm busy building my own house from scratch in Conan Exiles and furnishing it as I please....all at NO additional cost of either real life cash OR in game currency! Granted, I don't have nearly as may options in that game as ESO sort of offers... but it's a heck of a lot of fun and ZERO stress and frustration!
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    I, for one, am glad things are rare and hard to get. I enjoyed chasing the Vvardenfell plans and motifs, and was disappointed when they put them on the voucher vendor and in the crown store. If some had their way, everything would be available to everybody with no effort, everyone would be riding radiant apex mounts, achievement furnishings would not require achievements, etc. Personally, I hope Summerset has pickpocket only motifs, ultrarare furnishings, and so forth. I'll be out chasing those elusive rewards, while the entitled crowd is busy complaining. And I'll be selling to them so I can buy what I need for my own houses.
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