The problem with games when they become MTs is the devs start to focus to much on making trinkets to sell and less time working the actual content. The more they pump out in vanity items, the more they make. Meanwhile the game suffers because the primary focus is making more trinkets to sell and less on the actual game.

I prefer games with a required sub. Everyone pays one price a month, everything is included. no sales gimmicks. They use to include vanity items in the games for free like special event and stuff or for completing certain things. But they figured out people will pay more a month for virtual mounts and pets than they will for transportation to get to work. So now every game just sells everything and turns every game into a fashion show.

For a $25 sub i would have to get stuff like : unlimited storage space, mounted speed buff, no cost teleports to wayshrines, 100 slots per guild trader, 15 character slots, the ability to completely switch specs without spending a bunch of gold and time faffing around to swap, and customer support that has guaranteed less than 12 hour turn around day or night, weekends and holidays.

Don´t like the idea of a monthly fee. Preffer to pay a starting flat fee and be done with it, and if there is something I want, buy it directly (from the crowns store, where there is nothing good to be bought, so...no extra chatge for me right now).

kikkehs wrote: »

You do know that both WoW and FFXIV have micro-transaction shops, even tho both are fully subscription based. Right?

Most of the cosmetic stuff in WoW comes from doing ingame activies; and by most I mean over 95 %.

In ESO it's the opposite.

So a game having a subscription requirement definately reduces the agressive monetization - I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise.

What is happening in ESO is just the causality of the game going away from the subscription requirement three years ago - I knew this was going to happen so I am not surprised or even upset.

I can't help but to wonder whether the game companies are to blame for this development or all the people who insist on playing MMORPGs without subscriptions under the illusion that monetization will be just as good as if the game had a required subscription - after all game companies just deliver products based on the market demands. But that is a discussion for another time and we already know where Zenimax planted the flag with ESO.

would that (25$) be sufficient to keep the game going?

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

If you make enough gold in WoW you can play as though it were B2p

Do you even understand what Buy2Play is?? If you have to BUY it TO PLAY it, it's B2P... BUY it.... WITH MONEY... It has nothing to do with in-game gold....