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I'm back again but have questions

Anysra
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Hi All,

I haven't played since Horns of the Reach. Yes, I have missed a lot. But I'm wondering. Did something change again "Nerfed" skills?
It feels like I don't do that much damage anymore. Like 5k is missing?! I setup my Champion Points again but still can't hit like "Before Horns of the Reach". I know that with Morrowind some stuff got nerfed. But I'm a Magicka NB and I can't do that much damage I used to.

Stats few months ago (Before Horns of the Reach):
Magicka: 44k
Health: 16k
Spell Crit: 71.00%
Spell Dmg: 2149

Cast 24k damage per skill.

Current Stats:
Magicka: 46.7k
Health: 17.2k
Spell Crit: 73.15%
Spell Dmg: 2264

Cast 16.2k damage per skill. (The ***?)

Before patch Horns of the Reach, I did 24k damage with only 1 skill "Funnel Health". And now i'm doing 16.2K damage even with higher stats.
WTH. (Of course, through my rotation I do more damage but still, from 24k to 16 with even higher stats?!

Well... I actually loved to play ESO because of this. I "for my own feeling" was a good Damage dealer (I play solo too).
But now, I see level 20s doing the same.... WTH, what is the point?! I don't feel it.

So, each freaking update i have to respec?! EVERY UPDATE?! Nah... I'm not back again. I mean, not yet. Pfff..
Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
Arcanist / Necromancer
  • Tasear
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    Off balance was changed on bosses to 15 secs cool down.

    Nightblades are in fashion too so you are doing something wrong.
  • Anysra
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Off balance was changed on bosses to 15 secs cool down.

    Nightblades are in fashion too so you are doing something wrong.

    Well, if I am the "failure" I mean, let it hope it's correct. I will figure some other things out then. Thanks!
    I mean, I have seen some changes with the updates. But it's most likely the things I don't even use.

    Actually no idea what i'm doing wrong. Got the set and skills same as months ago. Nothing changed on my end.
    Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
    Arcanist / Necromancer
  • Jaimeh
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    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring. By the way, If your NB is a Dunmer you could consider double inferno for the current meta if you're not using it already. Mechanical Acuity is also very popular.
  • Waffennacht
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    I'm going to guess it's going to be the changes to CP. If you have your CP allocated the same as before I'm thinking that's where the damage loss is coming from
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  • Marabornwingrion
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    Overreacting much.
  • Anysra
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    I'm going to guess it's going to be the changes to CP. If you have your CP allocated the same as before I'm thinking that's where the damage loss is coming from

    Aha! Thank you very much. :)
    Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
    Arcanist / Necromancer
  • Anysra
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Overreacting much.

    Not really.
    Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
    Arcanist / Necromancer
  • Anysra
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    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring. By the way, If your NB is a Dunmer you could consider double inferno for the current meta if you're not using it already. Mechanical Acuity is also very popular.

    Ah :( I hope it's the Champion system. I'll check on those! Thank you for your help.
    Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
    Arcanist / Necromancer
  • Aisle9
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    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring.

    Yep, still happening, stamina as well

    Ajintse wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring. By the way, If your NB is a Dunmer you could consider double inferno for the current meta if you're not using it already. Mechanical Acuity is also very popular.

    Ah :( I hope it's the Champion system. I'll check on those! Thank you for your help.

    Yeh, it's not as advantageous as it was before to put 75 points in thaum for opportunist, I think I have 40 now ? don't remember.

    I'm still using a lightning staff, because RNGesus hasn't been kind to me and I don't have a vMA inferno still, but dual inferno is the current meta for magblyats.

    Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it.

    Hope this helps.

    Edited by Aisle9 on April 16, 2018 9:22AM
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    Hold-Many-Bags - Mule DK, Promoted to main tank, occasionally stamDD
    Olaf Proudstache - Mule - No longer with us Now a Stamwarden healer
    Aglieglie Brazorf - AD magicka sorcerer (PC - EU)
    Rodolfo Lavandino - DC stamina, greatsword wielding, Jesus beam spamming, Redguard hybrid templar just a stamplar again (PC - EU)
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  • Anysra
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring.

    Yep, still happening, stamina as well

    Ajintse wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring. By the way, If your NB is a Dunmer you could consider double inferno for the current meta if you're not using it already. Mechanical Acuity is also very popular.

    Ah :( I hope it's the Champion system. I'll check on those! Thank you for your help.

    Yeh, it's not as advantageous as it was before to put 75 points in thaum for opportunist, I think I have 40 now ? don't remember.

    I'm still using a lightning staff, because RNGesus hasn't been kind to me and I don't have a vMA inferno still, but dual inferno is the current meta for magblyats.

    Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it.

    Hope this helps.

    Ah thanks for the info!

    But I don't get this.
    "Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it."

    So does it mean, if I hit 4x I have to wait 1 second and hit again for the 5th to trigger Assassins Will? :/ That's messed up.
    Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
    Arcanist / Necromancer
  • Aisle9
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    Ajintse wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring.

    Yep, still happening, stamina as well

    Ajintse wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring. By the way, If your NB is a Dunmer you could consider double inferno for the current meta if you're not using it already. Mechanical Acuity is also very popular.

    Ah :( I hope it's the Champion system. I'll check on those! Thank you for your help.

    Yeh, it's not as advantageous as it was before to put 75 points in thaum for opportunist, I think I have 40 now ? don't remember.

    I'm still using a lightning staff, because RNGesus hasn't been kind to me and I don't have a vMA inferno still, but dual inferno is the current meta for magblyats.

    Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it.

    Hope this helps.

    Ah thanks for the info!

    But I don't get this.
    "Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it."

    So does it mean, if I hit 4x I have to wait 1 second and hit again for the 5th to trigger Assassins Will? :/ That's messed up.

    No, you do your rota, for instance, LA - Blockade - LA - Cripple - LA - Trap - LA - Path, that's 4 Light Attacks, then after you do the last Light Attack (the 5th) you need to proc, you give it a second to make sure the 5th LA procced the bow. The delay is between the 5th LA and the bow proc.

    I'm not sure if it was a change from Dragon bones, but since the update, I noticed this happening, doing my usual rotation I would recast focus instead of shooting the bow much more often than before. Then again, it may just be lag.

    Edited by Aisle9 on April 16, 2018 9:34AM
    Artemis Absinthe - DC magicka nightblade (PC - EU)
    Gruzosh Barrelsmasher - DC stamina sorcerer (PC - EU)
    Kew'bacca - AD stamina nightblade (PC - EU)
    Jebediah Orbrynn - DC magicka templar (PC - EU)
    Hold-Many-Bags - Mule DK, Promoted to main tank, occasionally stamDD
    Olaf Proudstache - Mule - No longer with us Now a Stamwarden healer
    Aglieglie Brazorf - AD magicka sorcerer (PC - EU)
    Rodolfo Lavandino - DC stamina, greatsword wielding, Jesus beam spamming, Redguard hybrid templar just a stamplar again (PC - EU)
    Lemmy Raise Master - EP stamina necromancer (PC - EU)

    Scions of Dawn recruitment ad - PC EU multifaction PvE endgame raiding guild

    LUI user - I can see you when you fap loot.

    #SpellswordArmy
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  • Anysra
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ajintse wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring.

    Yep, still happening, stamina as well

    Ajintse wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring. By the way, If your NB is a Dunmer you could consider double inferno for the current meta if you're not using it already. Mechanical Acuity is also very popular.

    Ah :( I hope it's the Champion system. I'll check on those! Thank you for your help.

    Yeh, it's not as advantageous as it was before to put 75 points in thaum for opportunist, I think I have 40 now ? don't remember.

    I'm still using a lightning staff, because RNGesus hasn't been kind to me and I don't have a vMA inferno still, but dual inferno is the current meta for magblyats.

    Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it.

    Hope this helps.

    Ah thanks for the info!

    But I don't get this.
    "Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it."

    So does it mean, if I hit 4x I have to wait 1 second and hit again for the 5th to trigger Assassins Will? :/ That's messed up.

    No, you do your rota, for instance, LA - Blockade - LA - Cripple - LA - Trap - LA - Path, that's 4 Light Attacks, then after you do the last Light Attack (the 5th) you need to proc, you give it a second to make sure the 5th LA procced the bow. The delay is between the 5th LA and the bow proc.

    I'm not sure if it was a change from Dragon bones, but since the update, I noticed this happening, doing my usual rotation I would recast focus instead of shooting the bow much more often than before. Then again, it may just be lag.

    Ah thanks for the tip! I am going to focus on this. May require to chang my rotation (speed) but thanks for the info!
    Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
    Arcanist / Necromancer
  • Aisle9
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    Ajintse wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ajintse wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring.

    Yep, still happening, stamina as well

    Ajintse wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring. By the way, If your NB is a Dunmer you could consider double inferno for the current meta if you're not using it already. Mechanical Acuity is also very popular.

    Ah :( I hope it's the Champion system. I'll check on those! Thank you for your help.

    Yeh, it's not as advantageous as it was before to put 75 points in thaum for opportunist, I think I have 40 now ? don't remember.

    I'm still using a lightning staff, because RNGesus hasn't been kind to me and I don't have a vMA inferno still, but dual inferno is the current meta for magblyats.

    Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it.

    Hope this helps.

    Ah thanks for the info!

    But I don't get this.
    "Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it."

    So does it mean, if I hit 4x I have to wait 1 second and hit again for the 5th to trigger Assassins Will? :/ That's messed up.

    No, you do your rota, for instance, LA - Blockade - LA - Cripple - LA - Trap - LA - Path, that's 4 Light Attacks, then after you do the last Light Attack (the 5th) you need to proc, you give it a second to make sure the 5th LA procced the bow. The delay is between the 5th LA and the bow proc.

    I'm not sure if it was a change from Dragon bones, but since the update, I noticed this happening, doing my usual rotation I would recast focus instead of shooting the bow much more often than before. Then again, it may just be lag.

    Ah thanks for the tip! I am going to focus on this. May require to chang my rotation (speed) but thanks for the info!

    Ofc, see what works for you, 1s may be even too long, see what the optimal delay is, just keep in mind there's a micro delay between the last light attack (the 5th) and the proc, if you hit it too soon it will recast it instead of shooting the bow.

    I noticed this after focus was modified to remember the stacks between casts. Now if it runs out with 3 stacks, you can just recast it and just keep going, but I suspect the additional calculation slowed it a bit.

    Artemis Absinthe - DC magicka nightblade (PC - EU)
    Gruzosh Barrelsmasher - DC stamina sorcerer (PC - EU)
    Kew'bacca - AD stamina nightblade (PC - EU)
    Jebediah Orbrynn - DC magicka templar (PC - EU)
    Hold-Many-Bags - Mule DK, Promoted to main tank, occasionally stamDD
    Olaf Proudstache - Mule - No longer with us Now a Stamwarden healer
    Aglieglie Brazorf - AD magicka sorcerer (PC - EU)
    Rodolfo Lavandino - DC stamina, greatsword wielding, Jesus beam spamming, Redguard hybrid templar just a stamplar again (PC - EU)
    Lemmy Raise Master - EP stamina necromancer (PC - EU)

    Scions of Dawn recruitment ad - PC EU multifaction PvE endgame raiding guild

    LUI user - I can see you when you fap loot.

    #SpellswordArmy
    #MakeSpellswordsGreatAgain

    In the Game of PuGs you win or you ragequit

    "Dip dip potato chip, dip dip potato chip"
  • Anysra
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ajintse wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ajintse wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring.

    Yep, still happening, stamina as well

    Ajintse wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    There have also been reports of unexplained magicka drain/slow regen, not sure if these are still occurring. By the way, If your NB is a Dunmer you could consider double inferno for the current meta if you're not using it already. Mechanical Acuity is also very popular.

    Ah :( I hope it's the Champion system. I'll check on those! Thank you for your help.

    Yeh, it's not as advantageous as it was before to put 75 points in thaum for opportunist, I think I have 40 now ? don't remember.

    I'm still using a lightning staff, because RNGesus hasn't been kind to me and I don't have a vMA inferno still, but dual inferno is the current meta for magblyats.

    Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it.

    Hope this helps.

    Ah thanks for the info!

    But I don't get this.
    "Also there were some changes to relentless focus as well IIRC, it's slightly slower to register the proc, so you have to wait for a second between the 5th light attack and assassin's will, or you risk recasting it."

    So does it mean, if I hit 4x I have to wait 1 second and hit again for the 5th to trigger Assassins Will? :/ That's messed up.

    No, you do your rota, for instance, LA - Blockade - LA - Cripple - LA - Trap - LA - Path, that's 4 Light Attacks, then after you do the last Light Attack (the 5th) you need to proc, you give it a second to make sure the 5th LA procced the bow. The delay is between the 5th LA and the bow proc.

    I'm not sure if it was a change from Dragon bones, but since the update, I noticed this happening, doing my usual rotation I would recast focus instead of shooting the bow much more often than before. Then again, it may just be lag.

    Ah thanks for the tip! I am going to focus on this. May require to chang my rotation (speed) but thanks for the info!

    Ofc, see what works for you, 1s may be even too long, see what the optimal delay is, just keep in mind there's a micro delay between the last light attack (the 5th) and the proc, if you hit it too soon it will recast it instead of shooting the bow.

    I noticed this after focus was modified to remember the stacks between casts. Now if it runs out with 3 stacks, you can just recast it and just keep going, but I suspect the additional calculation slowed it a bit.

    Hello! I can confirm that it has a 1s delay. Because if I hit the 5th a.s.a.p it will reset! That is just awful. :/
    But changed my rotation. So actually after the 4th I just cast Funnel Health again and light attack after it and proc.

    Seems it's okay for now! ^^ I hope it won't change again. I mean, it's not a big deal though. But had to change my whole rotation.

    Thanks again!
    Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
    Arcanist / Necromancer
  • Chaos2088
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    If someone is asking for help, be nice to them and explain things. This game is not easy with builds and bonuses/buffs when you have taken a break and things change.

    Stating someone is overreacting is not going to be useful at all. Glad to see some people helping :)

    I would help but I would offer noob advice as just getting into NB's myself.
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  • Anysra
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    If someone is asking for help, be nice to them and explain things. This game is not easy with builds and bonuses/buffs when you have taken a break and things change.

    Stating someone is overreacting is not going to be useful at all. Glad to see some people helping :)

    I would help but I would offer noob advice as just getting into NB's myself.

    Hi Chaos2088.

    Thank you very much for your kinds words. :) I hope I would be able to help you out sometime!!
    I'm playing NB (magicka and stamina) the whole time. Haven't played on other classes. I mean, did try but NB is the way to go for me. ^^

    But It's still weird because of the fact that I deal less damage. I mean, nothing changed really on my end. I respecced my Champion Points. But it won't give the boost I had before the updates. I mean, it's not a really big issue but, I'm doing 17.4k damage now (changed CP) as I did before around 20+k. :/ No idea why my damage (output) is lower. My stats are still the same (even better).

    Anyways, thank you again and I guess I should try other sets or I don't know. ^^
    Anysra Nur | Grim Arcanum
    Arcanist / Necromancer
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