We need some changes for templar abilities:
Empowering sweep/ Crescent Sweep:
Increase the radius to 8m
And increase the damage of all morphs by 33% flat
Reduce the extra damage Crescent sweep does to 25% extra damage to targets infront of you

---> this results in higher damage for empowering while Crescent keeps it's current damage and makes both morphs more viable and userfriendly

Change both Purifying light and PotL to only take the damage dealt by the caster towards the explosion but increase the percentage of damage stored to 40%

---> it's more easy for solo players to reach the cap while people who get zerged don't get further punished for being outnumbered.


Jabs:
Fix the following bugs:
damage scaling is completely off @Cinbri already made posts about this
The skill doesn't hit stationary targets when lag is involved, moving targets often don't get hit at all
When you hold sprint while using jabs you will be locked in sprinting which can only be stopped when you deplete all your stamina or die.


Javalin: for the love of God change this skill into a low slash that knocks the enemy off his feet rather than pushing them out of the range of our main spammable.
(Javalin has an 8m knockback, jabs have a 8m range the enemy has to stand on you in order to not be pushed out of our range)

Still have to say this: Give templar tank a health based self heal!!!!!!

Minno wrote: »

FYI, Hasty Prayer with breton, Light Armor and Templar passives is a 6051 mag cost spell.

And yes the spell is really pricey. You can however pop a speed pot, then cast hasty prayer which then reduces the heal cost to around 1400 mag.

I have not tested how the speed impacts allies. But the heal has a slight lag after cast compared to BoL.

My quick thoughts.

• Breath of Life - morph was on life support. It's dead now. It was a 3K secondary heal in PvP. Templars should have been using Honor all along. It's a nerf but irrelevant.
• Healing Ritual - Fenrgrush is going to go ballistic. Long overdue. Ridiculous cost is fair and necessary. Long term it's more efficient to use Healing Springs.
• Hasty Prayer. I like it. But I don't want to hear that somehow Templars have access to this buff as it cost 8K magicka to get!
• Nova - It's still too expensive for what it does. PvE will still use Warhorn. PvP, maybe will see some play as 4 seconds of that debuff, but the other morph is the "PvP morph" so still think Nova in general is outclassed by other options
• Solar Flare: I'll test this out on a target dummy and see if a decent ranged DPS rotation exists. Judgement reserved.
• Burning Light: I'll take it, but global cooldown kills templar AOE DPS.
• Piercing Spear: Classic thing I hate. "bug fix" means class is nerfed but no other compensation.
• Sweeps. As long as the damage is still bugged and I'm hitting 30% less in PvP, it wouldn't matter if the heal got buffed to 70%, it's not a viable skill.

Seeing what the other classes got (not much), I guess that's just the way ESO is going to be: not very exciting skills and abilities, where everything is "inline" with each other and what defines us if gear and Champion Point distributions. That being said, there are still "pain points" aplenty.

• Empowering Sweep ultimate needs to be damage oriented
• "stamplar" resource management is non-existant.
• We are still forced to move in the content ESO releases, yet our skills force us to stand still.
• How is that our damage+healing is "in-line" with other classes, when those other classes have range and mobility options when we don't? Either we need to be "out-of-line," i.e. better, or that our ranged and mobility options need to be "in-line" with the other classes.

Minno wrote: »

FYI, Hasty Prayer with breton, Light Armor and Templar passives is a 6051 mag cost spell.

And yes the spell is really pricey. You can however pop a speed pot, then cast hasty prayer which then reduces the heal cost to around 1400 mag.

I have not tested how the speed impacts allies. But the heal has a slight lag after cast compared to BoL. Overall it's a zerg/group spell.

Stamina Templar needs work. Sustain is really lacking compared to every other Stamina class. Whether you're fighting players in PvP or bosses in a Dungeon or Trial you basically have no skill to aid in Sustain like other classes until that enemy dies. The resource return is abysmal because it's only good for fighting trash mobs where theres lots of dead bodies, not sustaining you through long fights with hard to kill players in PvP or a boss fight.

There is also the current situation that thanks to the last Stamplar change every Stamplar in the group is in competition with the other for using Repentance. Even a total random Stamplar not in your group hits Repentance near you and you lose all that sustain in PvP or open world PvE. This was a really stupid change that made no sense to begin with.

It's not like Stamplar was ever a top choice for Trials groups and it's one of the least played classes in PvP so why was this even done is the question because now you only hurt your group to have more than one Stamplar in it. That's not the case for any other class in the game.

I'm very disappointed in the changes, or lack thereof, to the templar class.

Please return the hard cc to blazing spear.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Wrobel

Trying to force us to heal by nerfing damage then nerfing healing to force us to try and go back towards dps all while radically changing NEARLY every skill the templar has in the mean time, forcing us to change our playstyle more than any other class EVERRRR. Rediculous.

Please rework our ults. I have many ideas.
Empowering sweep + crescent sweep- increase cost to 125 ult increase the damage to around dragons leap tier, add a knock down. Increase the radius to 6m

Solar prison - make the damage and stun synergy auto activate after 1 second from landing on the ground. Allies can activate the synergy for buffs but no damage.


Healing ult is fine.

Solariken wrote: »

Please consider making Backlash and morphs more solo-friendly. It was @BohnT 's idea that got me thinking about this, but the solution seems simple:

Keep the current cap on explosion damage, but allow Backlash to store 40% of the Templar's damage and 10% of allies' damage. This should achieve the following:

1. Keeps the explosion damage about the same for raid healers (always reaches the cap anyway)
2. Slightly reduces its potency for healbots in Xv1/zerg situations (assuming targets are defending properly)
3. Gives a solo Templar some much needed offensive help. We have great flexibility in skill combos but all are woefully impotent solo without RNG procs (Skoria/Caluurion's/etc).

Also please increase the base strike damage of Purifying Light by at least 15% to bring it a little closer to that of Power of the Light. I see no reason why it needs to be so much weaker.

Problem with potl/PL is that it's largely dependant on outside burst. If you don't have proc/bleeds/unstable core burst, then the ability is nothing more than Ultimate Regen.

I'm hopeful that Wrobel et al. took some good feedback to heart during the pre-PTS event and that more class changes, specifically to Templar, are coming in the next PTS build. The class is just not fun to play anymore.

Templar has no on-demand, built-in stamina recovery mechanic that other classes have! Repentance requires dead people, you can not rely solely on this. Plus, only one single templar in the area can benefit from dead bodies. That's bs if you ask me.

Templar has the best healing but with each patch its healing is getting chopped bit by bit due to other classes excell worse at healing. Now all classes are becoming more even at healjob.

I understand this logic but with that same logic, you should give us what other classes have. Such as reliable stamina recovery mechanic, sticky buffs(rune), and unblockable undodgeable stun or aoe stun/root/off balance/miss. Currently it is impossible to land all 4 jabs on a skilled enemy who is very mobile with expedition buff. Javelin misses or blocked almost everytime thanks to dodge and block and even if you manage to stun the enemy, they are knocked back out of jab range, it must be a joke really...
And now with these new jewelry traits, people will run faster than before. Good luck hitting them with jabs! Your fat templar will always be fat and slow piñata, pigeonholed into channeled bread and butter abilities trying to hit the air only to waste your juicy stamina which you have no way of regaining it back other than pots and heavy attacks. Every other class have ways to recover stamina during a fight without needing certain conditions as repentance do.

Do something!


- Update Blazing Shield with an additional effect such as aoe root/stun/miss(as bliding flashes did)
Or update it to work exactly same as before as a reliable defence & offence ability with reduced cost and increased strenght (pre ic patch)

- Change Restoring Aura to fill stamina instead of magicka. Magplar already has channelled focus.

- Restore the unblockable stun on Blazing Spear.

- And for the love of Stendarr, make our defensive buffs stick with us.

Can Stamplar get some kind of love ?!