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Improve Whirling Blades.
GeorgeBlack
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1)Reduce the cost further
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2)Make the execute start from 40-50% target HP
or
3)Aoe knock back(not knock down)
It should also be dodgeable
Edited by GeorgeBlack on April 14, 2018 12:51AM or
2)Make the execute start from 40-50% target HP
or
3)Aoe knock back(not knock down)
It should also be dodgeable
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Houshiki✭✭✭✭Players say: Buff whirling blades!
ZoS hears: Nerf steel tornado!
Jokes aside, 3 would be an interesting way to gear the morph more towards pvp.0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The "execute" of this skill already starts at 100%. And the get buffed further by the passives at 25%.
Zos has made it clear, zos does not want aoes dodgeable.
If the extra 20% Regen was not the same you got from pots, that would make it a lot better.3 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »The "execute" of this skill already starts at 100%. And the get buffed further by the passives at 25%.
Zos has made it clear, zos does not want aoes dodgeable.
If the extra 20% Regen was not the same you got from pots, that would make it a lot better.
So Whirling Blades is the solid PvP choice. Is that what you are saying?Edited by GeorgeBlack on April 14, 2018 4:45AM0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »The "execute" of this skill already starts at 100%. And the get buffed further by the passives at 25%.
Zos has made it clear, zos does not want aoes dodgeable.
If the extra 20% Regen was not the same you got from pots, that would make it a lot better.
So Whirling Blades is the solid PvP choice. Is that what you are saying?
No, steel tornado is better because of the range. If anything the scaling damage from the base skill ought to be doubled for whirling blades, to 200% and everything else remains the same, so you have half the size of the aoe, less actually, as 5 meters circle is 78 meters covered and 9 meters is 254 meters covered for steel tornado, so you have to choose between 3 times the size and double damage or same size and triple damage.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on April 14, 2018 5:36AM0 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »1)Reduce the cost further
or
2)Make the execute start from 40-50% target HP
or
3)Aoe knock back(not knock down)
It should also be dodgeable
And each spin should apply dawnbreaker of smithing effect. Twice.4 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »The "execute" of this skill already starts at 100%. And the get buffed further by the passives at 25%.
Zos has made it clear, zos does not want aoes dodgeable.
If the extra 20% Regen was not the same you got from pots, that would make it a lot better.
So Whirling Blades is the solid PvP choice. Is that what you are saying?
No, steel tornado is better because of the range. If anything the scaling damage from the base skill ought to be doubled for whirling blades, to 200% and everything else remains the same, so you have half the size of the aoe, less actually, as 5 meters circle is 78 meters covered and 9 meters is 254 meters covered for steel tornado, so you have to choose between 3 times the size and double damage or same size and triple damage.
So Whirling Blades is the PvE option. Is that what you are saying?0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »1)Reduce the cost further
or
2)Make the execute start from 40-50% target HP
or
3)Aoe knock back(not knock down)
It should also be dodgeable
And each spin should apply dawnbreaker of smithing effect. Twice.
How old are you?0 -
Vanya✭✭✭✭✭No.Unneeded. Very potent skill. Area of Effect Superiority.Edited by Vanya on April 14, 2018 5:44AM1
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Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »1)Reduce the cost further
or
2)Make the execute start from 40-50% target HP
or
3)Aoe knock back(not knock down)
It should also be dodgeable
And each spin should apply dawnbreaker of smithing effect. Twice.
How old are you?
Enough to see that what you wrote is bs.
Execute starting from 40-50% yet you knock ppl away from effect? LOL you need to rethink that bs.0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »1)Reduce the cost further
or
2)Make the execute start from 40-50% target HP
or
3)Aoe knock back(not knock down)
It should also be dodgeable
And each spin should apply dawnbreaker of smithing effect. Twice.
How old are you?
Enough to see that what you wrote is bs.
Execute starting from 40-50% yet you knock ppl away from effect? LOL you need to rethink that bs.
Nothing more to say to a blocktard0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »The "execute" of this skill already starts at 100%. And the get buffed further by the passives at 25%.
Zos has made it clear, zos does not want aoes dodgeable.
If the extra 20% Regen was not the same you got from pots, that would make it a lot better.
So Whirling Blades is the solid PvP choice. Is that what you are saying?
No, steel tornado is better because of the range. If anything the scaling damage from the base skill ought to be doubled for whirling blades, to 200% and everything else remains the same, so you have half the size of the aoe, less actually, as 5 meters circle is 78 meters covered and 9 meters is 254 meters covered for steel tornado, so you have to choose between 3 times the size and double damage or same size and triple damage.
So Whirling Blades is the PvE option. Is that what you are saying?
No. Steel tornado is the Superior morph in both. But all your suggestions would not make whirling blades better then steel. Mine would make whirling blades more viable, it would do more damage, at least 1/3 more then steel tornado, so it would be more attractive in pve but less in PVP because you can't really stack people like pve mobs.2 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »The "execute" of this skill already starts at 100%. And the get buffed further by the passives at 25%.
Zos has made it clear, zos does not want aoes dodgeable.
If the extra 20% Regen was not the same you got from pots, that would make it a lot better.
So Whirling Blades is the solid PvP choice. Is that what you are saying?
No, steel tornado is better because of the range. If anything the scaling damage from the base skill ought to be doubled for whirling blades, to 200% and everything else remains the same, so you have half the size of the aoe, less actually, as 5 meters circle is 78 meters covered and 9 meters is 254 meters covered for steel tornado, so you have to choose between 3 times the size and double damage or same size and triple damage.
So Whirling Blades is the PvE option. Is that what you are saying?
No. Steel tornado is the Superior morph in both. But all your suggestions would not make whirling blades better then steel. Mine would make whirling blades more viable, it would do more damage, at least 1/3 more then steel tornado, so it would be more attractive in pve but less in PVP because you can't really stack people like pve mobs.
Sure why not. Boost dmg. I dont mind, I would use it. Isnt it copy paste from 2h tho?Edited by GeorgeBlack on April 14, 2018 6:07AM0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Whirling blades isn’t that bad in PvP, my gripe with it is that the animation feels a little syrupy and not snappy like steel tornado. But for running in and spamming a group of people whirling blades works very well, the low cost and regen are a big boost. If you make it more powerful it will be come the obvious choice as it already has the above mentioned advantages.Edited by Vapirko on April 14, 2018 8:02AM0 -
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✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »1)Reduce the cost further
or
2)Make the execute start from 40-50% target HP
or
3)Aoe knock back(not knock down)
It should also be dodgeable
And each spin should apply dawnbreaker of smithing effect. Twice.
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✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »1)Reduce the cost further
or
2)Make the execute start from 40-50% target HP
or
3)Aoe knock back(not knock down)
It should also be dodgeable
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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »The "execute" of this skill already starts at 100%. And the get buffed further by the passives at 25%.
Zos has made it clear, zos does not want aoes dodgeable.
If the extra 20% Regen was not the same you got from pots, that would make it a lot better.
So Whirling Blades is the solid PvP choice. Is that what you are saying?
No, steel tornado is better because of the range. If anything the scaling damage from the base skill ought to be doubled for whirling blades, to 200% and everything else remains the same, so you have half the size of the aoe, less actually, as 5 meters circle is 78 meters covered and 9 meters is 254 meters covered for steel tornado, so you have to choose between 3 times the size and double damage or same size and triple damage.
So Whirling Blades is the PvE option. Is that what you are saying?
No. Steel tornado is the Superior morph in both. But all your suggestions would not make whirling blades better then steel. Mine would make whirling blades more viable, it would do more damage, at least 1/3 more then steel tornado, so it would be more attractive in pve but less in PVP because you can't really stack people like pve mobs.
Sure why not. Boost dmg. I dont mind, I would use it. Isnt it copy paste from 2h tho?
You mean reverse slice and it's morphs? Sure. I mean executioner is never picked now because it is only single target. Reverse slice is what every build uses in pve and PVP. I do believe that executioner ought to be 500%, not just 50% more then reverse slice, 300%, for this reason, considerably more single target or aoe.
The you still have the extra 20% all dual wield skills get under 25%Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on April 14, 2018 1:10PM0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »The "execute" of this skill already starts at 100%. And the get buffed further by the passives at 25%.
Zos has made it clear, zos does not want aoes dodgeable.
If the extra 20% Regen was not the same you got from pots, that would make it a lot better.
So Whirling Blades is the solid PvP choice. Is that what you are saying?
No, steel tornado is better because of the range. If anything the scaling damage from the base skill ought to be doubled for whirling blades, to 200% and everything else remains the same, so you have half the size of the aoe, less actually, as 5 meters circle is 78 meters covered and 9 meters is 254 meters covered for steel tornado, so you have to choose between 3 times the size and double damage or same size and triple damage.
So Whirling Blades is the PvE option. Is that what you are saying?
No. Steel tornado is the Superior morph in both. But all your suggestions would not make whirling blades better then steel. Mine would make whirling blades more viable, it would do more damage, at least 1/3 more then steel tornado, so it would be more attractive in pve but less in PVP because you can't really stack people like pve mobs.
Sure why not. Boost dmg. I dont mind I would use it. Isnt it copy paste from 2h tho?Whirling blades isn’t that bad in PvP, my gripe with it is that the animation feels a little syrupy and not snappy like steel tornado. But for running in and spamming a group of people whirling blades works very well, the low cost and regen are a big boost. If you make it more powerful it will be come the obvious choice as it already has the above mentioned advantages.
Show me your Cyro small scale using Whirling Blades0