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I know they are not part of TES games, but they're around. Any chance we'll ever get 2H spears?
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Varidian✭✭✭would be interesting to have. could model them from the Staves I guess... with some changed ofc but the category would really make it interesting.
don't you see them on the odd weapons rack ? if I'm not mistakenThe Blood Sons Of Sekt0 -
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✭Nordic_Pirate wrote: »I know they are not part of TES games, but they're around. Any chance we'll ever get 2H spears?
I'd be totally OK if it was just a skin or 2h weapons but a new skill line would also be nice^^Thuu chakkuth lod Hajhiit c’oo? Hajhiit gortsuquth gorihuth thuu gooluthduj thdeitoluu!
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Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭would be interesting to have. could model them from the Staves I guess... with some changed ofc but the category would really make it interesting.
don't you see them on the odd weapons rack ? if I'm not mistaken
Wrothgar has some enemy npc that throw short javelin/spears at you that will stagger you. I don't know that I have seen any lying around. There is a quest in Vvardenfell where you return a spear that looks suspiciously like a staff though.
I would love for them to introduce some new weapon skill lines. For me stamina combat is pretty bland across the board now.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault0 -
VilniusNastavnik✭✭✭✭✭Make spear weapons a new tree, but have them synergise with the existing trees.
Use 1h spear and synergise with the SnB tree or use a 2h polearm and synergise with the 2h tree.
Could also have smaller version that you can throw. They are already in game on NPCs
Basically:
Small: Skills synergise with Bow skills (Spear thrower)
Medium: Skills synergise with SnB skills (Phalanx)
Large: Skills synergise with 2h skills (Polearm knights)
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✭✭✭✭✭Who gave you the idea that spears are not part of TES games? They certainly are part of Morrowind and I think of Oblivion as well. Only Skyrim did away with them and ESO too, for no good reason.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.4 -
OrdoHermetica✭✭✭✭✭
✭Who gave you the idea that spears are not part of TES games? They certainly are part of Morrowind and I think of Oblivion as well. Only Skyrim did away with them and ESO too, for no good reason.
Morrowind is the only Elder Scrolls game with spears as a skill line/separate weapon. Skyrim added throwing spears in the Dragonborn DLC, but they're novelty weapons that fall under the Archery tree.
So actually, yeah, Morrowind was the solitary exception, not the rule. Which is pretty weird, to be honest - spears were one of the most commonly used weapons in the Medieval and Renaissance world, and while I know the Elder Scrolls isn't our world, it's clearly based on that era (and its weaponry).
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Please I want my Morrowind spears!
My Nerevarine used a glass spear she took from from the Urshilaku burial grounds to destroy Dagoth Ur. Spears were amazing.
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warabi✭✭✭Spears are super cool and one of my favorite weapons in games. They aren't utilized enough!1 -
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VerboseQuips✭✭✭✭✭Nordic_Pirate wrote: »I know they are not part of TES games, but they're around. Any chance we'll ever get 2H spears?
They were part of TES games before. I have been missing my halberd since Morrowind. :'(My characters:Main and crafter: A Breton magicka templar named Erwann Sorril
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Alt 3: An Argonian vampire/nightblade named Observe-le-Xanmeer
Alt 4: A Nord werewolf/dragonknight named Sigurd Hurlevent
Alt 5: A Breton sorcerer named Gilian Sorril (he's Erwann's younger brother)
Alt 6: A Khajiit nightblade named Jolan-dar
Alt 7: A Nord warden named Sigurmar Hurlevent (he's Sigurd's younger brother)
Alt 8: An Altmer templar named Oioriel
Alt 9: An Argonian stamina Warden named Danse-avec-les-Rainettes
Alt 10: A Redguard templar named Neemokh af-Corelanya
Alt 11: A Nord stamina sorcerer named Olga Écoute-Vent
Alt 12: A Breton magicka Warden named Ian Sorril
Alt 13: A Dunmer magicka necromancer named Ilmoran Dren
Alt 14: An Orc stamina necromancer named Norgol gro-Borziel
Alt 15: A Nord magicka necromancer named Thorgen Givresang
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✭✭✭Someone help me out with lore.
Who was it Vivec was comparing his spear with and contemplating the ways of belly magic?Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone help me out with lore.
Who was it Vivec was comparing his spear with and contemplating the ways of belly magic?
Molag Bal. http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:36_Lessons_of_Vivec,_Sermon_140 -
Serjustin19✭✭✭✭✭But Spears are in the game. If your a templar that is. Sorc Shard is a spear to, but smaller. Warden has a Spear, but way to birdy. NB has Spears, but they are ghosts. Dk has Spears, there very rocky; rocky as the rocky roads. This is why no Spears (like npc uses) all Spears are just; Magical.Edited by Serjustin19 on April 13, 2018 2:01AMFormerly Serjustin19, Save for Forum Of Course.... Fiery_Darkness (PC NA) currently.0
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✭✭It'll be hard to put in Spears because what would be obvious choices for abilities were given to Templar. I think it'd be too similar.0 -
OrdoHermetica✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtarTheMad wrote: »It'll be hard to put in Spears because what would be obvious choices for abilities were given to Templar. I think it'd be too similar.
Except the "spear" abilities for Templard are purely flavor. They don't have anything to do with actual spears. You could replace "spear" with "sword" or "arrow" and have the same effect, because none of the abilities really rely on it being spear-like.0 -
ZioGio✭✭✭Only one MMORPG has done spears and javelins right and that was the Tolkien-themed game <wink wink> with their Warden.
I'd love to see spears added as a one-hander with shield or a two-hander primarily used for thrusting, reserving slashing animations for AoE.PC NA1 -
Armatesz✭✭✭✭✭would be interesting to have. could model them from the Staves I guess... with some changed ofc but the category would really make it interesting.
don't you see them on the odd weapons rack ? if I'm not mistaken
Wrothgar has some enemy npc that throw short javelin/spears at you that will stagger you. I don't know that I have seen any lying around. There is a quest in Vvardenfell where you return a spear that looks suspiciously like a staff though.
I would love for them to introduce some new weapon skill lines. For me stamina combat is pretty bland across the board now.
Throwing spears is a templar ability. Typically spears is associated with templars.Ärmätèsz
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mesmerizedish✭✭✭✭✭Who gave you the idea that spears are not part of TES games? They certainly are part of Morrowind and I think of Oblivion as well. Only Skyrim did away with them and ESO too, for no good reason.
Oblivion did not have spears, and if you think they were removed "for no good reason," I encourage you to create an entire set of animations for the weapon style as well as the art assets for a spear for every material type in the game.
I certainly think spears are worth the extra investment, or worth cutting something else for, but please try to think a little before you speculate on the lack of development trade-offs in weapon types.0 -
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✭would be interesting to have. could model them from the Staves I guess... with some changed ofc but the category would really make it interesting.
don't you see them on the odd weapons rack ? if I'm not mistaken
Wrothgar has some enemy npc that throw short javelin/spears at you that will stagger you. I don't know that I have seen any lying around. There is a quest in Vvardenfell where you return a spear that looks suspiciously like a staff though.
I would love for them to introduce some new weapon skill lines. For me stamina combat is pretty bland across the board now.
Throwing spears is a templar ability. Typically spears is associated with templars.
The "spears" are bolts of holy energy that happen to be somewhat spear-shaped. Outside of the name, there's really no connection between Templars and actual spears as weapons.0 -
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Actually, the current weapon selections were not always thus... for example, as has been mentioned, back in TES-III:Morrowind we had Spears and Throwing Weapons, even my beloved Crossbows...Nordic_Pirate wrote: »I know they are not part of TES games, but they're around. Any chance we'll ever get 2H spears?
And in that spirit, I keep suggesting a whole "polearm" weapon skill line (among others): https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-ii - so its nost just spears, but also halberds, glaives, naginata, partizans, tridents, etc.I want a spear weapon skill line!
the relevant part for this discussion would be:TheShadowScout wrote: »
Polearms
These extra-long shafted weapons (…things like: Pikes, Poleaxes, Tridents, Glaives, Monks Spades, War Scythes, Ranseur, Military Forks, Naginata, Hunting Spears, Halberds, Spetums, Pitchforks, etc.) should have 50% more range then normal weapons, but be awkward to use in very close quarters, so any attacks that are made against opponents at knife range suffer a 50% damage penalty (meaning, the weapons will do half damage from zero to 50% normal weapon range, and then full damage from 50% to 150% normal weapon range… for light/heavy attacks, as well as skill use…)Skills:
• Impaling Jabs (Puncturing Jabs animation, triple attacks in one go)
- Morph1: Impaling Strikes (+ knockback on last strike)
- Morph2: Rending Jabs (+ bleeding DoT increased per hit)
• Circular Slash (Radial Sweep animation, Aloe around wielder)
- Morph1: Circular Sweep (+ shield per enemy hit)
- Morph2: Crescent Slash (+ extra damage to enemies in front)
• Spear Charge (Focused Charge animation, gap closer & damage)
- Morph1: Impaling Charge (+ bleeding DoT)
- Morph2: Spear Rush (+ damage increased per distance charged)
• Braced Guard (auto-damage against anyone using a gap closer / duration)
- Morph1: Indomitable Guard (+CC immunity / duration)
- Morph2: Aggressive Guard (+ increased auto-damage and chance to disorient)
• Stalwart Defense (physical resistance buff, weapon damage buff)
- Morph1: Stalwart Resistance (+ spell resistance buff, CC resistance chance)
- Morph2: Indomitable Defense (+ heal over time, removes one DoT effect)
Ultimate: Spear Dance (AoE around caster, polearm rotation like dwemer centurion)
- Morph1: Scythe Dance (+ knockdown on hit, shorter duration)
- Morph2: Spear Tornado (+ increased range & duration)
Passives:
• Piercing Pike: increases damage bonus for critical and damage against blocking targets
• Balanced Polearm: reduces the cost of polearm abilities
• Pike Wall: increases block against melee attacks
• Melee Training: reduces the half-damage range to 40%/25%
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✭✭✭✭✭Nordic_Pirate wrote: »I know they are not part of TES games, but they're around. Any chance we'll ever get 2H spears?
Don't think so anytime soon unless they're focused on Magicka.
Remember, we have 3(4) Stamina based weapons in game and just 1(2) for Magicka. So unless they introduce 2-3 new weapons at once (which they won't do) I don't see the possibility of Spears.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
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✭✭We as players as a whole community have been asking/stating/shouting that spears or polearms would be an ace addition to the game, they do listen to our feedback and when we do get another weapon line spears are going to be a strong contender.
We might get crossbows before hand (if not at the same time) due to having one more ranged stam skill line.
Either way spears would be ace addition to the game!!@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP0 -
Thraben✭✭✭✭✭VerboseQuips wrote: »Nordic_Pirate wrote: »I know they are not part of TES games, but they're around. Any chance we'll ever get 2H spears?
They were part of TES games before. I have been missing my halberd since Morrowind. :'(
I really miss my enchanted glass halberd
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✭✭✭✭For spears I would like to see a versatile and interesting type of weapon.
If used as 2h, they should inherit few passives of a 2h skill line. If used bit different, as a 1h&s weapon, they could inherit few passives of a S&B skill tree. On the other had, if used as a ranged weapon, a.k.a. throwing javelin style, spears could inherit few passives from a bow skill line. Only thing that such a weapon should not be part of is dual wield combat.
System such as this one would make spears very interesting combat option, kinda jack of all trades one. Skills should depend on way you use your spear, for example if you combine it with S&B skills would behave in one way compared to when you use it as only weapon on that bar, without shield. I think spears should promote mid range combat fighting style, with slightly greater reach than 2h weapons have atm. Also, throving spears could have similar channel time as snipe, with either stun or bleed component tied to it.
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Make2k15✭✭would be interesting to have. could model them from the Staves I guess... with some changed ofc but the category would really make it interesting.
don't you see them on the odd weapons rack ? if I'm not mistaken
Wrothgar has some enemy npc that throw short javelin/spears at you that will stagger you. I don't know that I have seen any lying around. There is a quest in Vvardenfell where you return a spear that looks suspiciously like a staff though.
I would love for them to introduce some new weapon skill lines. For me stamina combat is pretty bland across the board now.
Throwing spears is a templar ability. Typically spears is associated with templars.
True, but the NPC (Rustler Javelinier) in Wrothgar has javelin weapon type and one hander weapon equipped:
NPC throws javeling:
Edited by Make2k15 on April 13, 2018 10:17AM1
