Something is very Broken with CC right now...

dodgehopper_ESO · February 2018

I'm not sure if everyone has noticed or not, but it is possible to be permanently cc'd now. CC immunity appears to be gone, or mostly gone. Is anyone else noticing this, particularly in PvP?

dodgehopper_ESO · February 2018

Before anyone decides to ask this is happening when Stamina is at full. I break free once, cc. Break free again, Re-cc. Break free again Re-cc. Ad nauseum til dead. I've been talking to other players and they're experiencing this as well.

RouDeR · February 2018

its called lag

dodgehopper_ESO · February 2018

RouDeR wrote: »

its called lag

I believe it is a bit more than that and the problem has seemed to be getting worse and worse. Many players both on my side and against have talked about this issue. Perhaps it is server lag but something is wrong. CC-Breaking has not been this awful since the first six months of the game.

monktoasty · February 2018

It happens to me to

deepseamk20b14_ESO · February 2018

It’s lag. Also if to many CC’s happen at once it’s almost like the server can’t figure it out and just says “well, good luck!” I don’t think anything fishy is going on. Just lag.

xolacieox · April 2018

I haven't played with it much on my pc but on my console, it's like this. Used a lot in battleground. Watched my whole group die in seconds on different sessions because of it. I think it's more than lag, maybe an exploit of the fear cc, but you really gotta experience it for yourself. It sucks.

Kadoin · April 2018

Anyone that PvPs will experience it eventually. The problem seems to be that CC immunity is not applied on the application of the skill. If they changed it so that CC immunity is always applied immediately after stuns, etc. there wouldn't be a problem with it. Right now, if you break free there is a delay before CC immunity is applied. In that window, if you get CC'd again it won't give you immunity. To make it worse, the game also reliably ignores input for a while after the moment you are denied CC immunity, usually causing you to be unable to move and/or break free. This problem also happens in PvE, though not as often as PvP.

ak_pvp · April 2018

IDK, seems fine on my end.

Thogard · April 2018

This is an exploit you can do with certain knock backs (draining shot and javelin). It’s been around for a while and people who know the exploit can abuse it.

I can chain CC someone indefinitely if I want to. When someone “accidentally” does it to me, I show them the exploit so that they stop doing it “accidentally”

Wreuntzylla · April 2018

This is how ZoS is addressing lag. Huge numbers of complicated calculations? Forget about it! The more cc locked players, the less computing resources needed!

lonewolf26 · April 2018

I'd have to echo that I do see a lot of unbreakable CC action battle grounds. Usually against premades with mutliple dks or sorcs. My instances of unbreakable CCs most frequently occur when hit by multiple petrifies or rune prisons while at full stamina. I've also noticed some cases where I'll be stunned standing up with no indication that I've been cc stunned but some how breaking free returns mobility. Those I might attribute to lag but when fps is stable and ping is nominal I can't help but to think that there's another issue.

Thogard · April 2018

lonewolf26 wrote: »

I'd have to echo that I do see a lot of unbreakable CC action battle grounds. Usually against premades with mutliple dks or sorcs. My instances of unbreakable CCs most frequently occur when hit by multiple petrifies or rune prisons while at full stamina. I've also noticed some cases where I'll be stunned standing up with no indication that I've been cc stunned but some how breaking free returns mobility. Those I might attribute to lag but when fps is stable and ping is nominal I can't help but to think that there's another issue.

All of the things you describe are common L2P issues mixed in with conflicting animations.

Qbiken · April 2018

Similar things happen in vMoL. If you have the void (small expanding circle under you that explodes after a short duration) and have CC-immunity active when the explosion goes of (the explosion will stun you no matter what) you can´t break free from the stun. I don´t know if it´s intended or not

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO · April 2018

I have noticed this happen more over last week, I had put it down to the server issues we've had since the celebration event started, hope this gets looked at.

Vapirko · April 2018

Theres definitely something *** up with snare and cc immunity in PvP right now. And apparently poisons override snare immunity which is just bs. But to try and separate the actual bugs from server lag, good luck.

Thogard · April 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

Theres definitely something *** up with snare and cc immunity in PvP right now. And apparently poisons override snare immunity which is just bs. But to try and separate the actual bugs from server lag, good luck.

Root and snare poisons ignoring immunity has always been the case

Runschei · April 2018

Oh so it is stated that the game actually has CC immunity? Wow, never experienced that

Aixy · April 2018

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO wrote: »

I have noticed this happen more over last week, I had put it down to the server issues we've had since the celebration event started, hope this gets looked at.

+1 !

Tai-Chi · April 2018

In a way, I am rather relieved that there might be a problem with breaking CC.

I thought it was due to the buttons on my mouse wearing out. A sigh of relief. I may not have to lash out RL £s on a new gaming mouse.

Kel · April 2018

Yep, I've noticed. Especially in battlegrounds....

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/404948/so-is-break-free-supposed-to-work-in-battlegrounds#latest

raviour · April 2018

Spamming talons is a continuous CC, this has been going on for a year maybe more.

Even if you manage to break free from the CC spammers after trying to enter your own keep the keep door will just throw you back out again. Its very silly but has become a part of PvP life. I play to Dragon Leap on zergs coz its fun but its not so fun when keep doors are your worst enemy.

CC should not be spammable. I think this stupid 'soft' perma-CC thing started with the change to Ice-reach. It is funny but its not clever on the devs part and CC CD really needs to be adressed.

Its not lag. Even NPC in totally dead PvE zones can spam CC. IC update broke a lot of the game and the issues still need adressing. I am still hoping that one day the NPC in keeps will be useful for defence again so that us late night players have a hope in hell vs the morning cap trolls.

Imperial City = great idea but badly implemented.

*edit for... Its gotten so bad that there is a guy on EU PC promoting the use of the Allesian set.

Skander · April 2018

If the Stun/Knockback has an animation (reverb, flame clench), during the animation time you can still be stunned, apparing in a double stun.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2018

raviour wrote: »

Spamming talons is a continuous CC, this has been going on for a year maybe more.

Even if you manage to break free from the CC spammers after trying to enter your own keep the keep door will just throw you back out again. Its very silly but has become a part of PvP life. I play to Dragon Leap on zergs coz its fun but its not so fun when keep doors are your worst enemy.

CC should not be spammable. I think this stupid 'soft' perma-CC thing started with the change to Ice-reach. It is funny but its not clever on the devs part and CC CD really needs to be adressed.

Its not lag. Even NPC in totally dead PvE zones can spam CC. IC update broke a lot of the game and the issues still need adressing. I am still hoping that one day the NPC in keeps will be useful for defence again so that us late night players have a hope in hell vs the morning cap trolls.

Imperial City = great idea but badly implemented.

*edit for... Its gotten so bad that there is a guy on EU PC promoting the use of the Allesian set.

Talons have always been permanent @Raviour. I can't remember when they weren't. You can always re-Talon someone and its always been so. The limiting factor is whose regen is better? Magic pool & Magic Regen for the Talon-er and the Stamina Pool & Stamina Regen of the Talonee (for dodge roll).

Seraphayel · April 2018

CC is just out of control since Dragon Bones. And break free isn't working properly / is bugged. Not only in PvP a problem.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2018

Qbiken wrote: »

Similar things happen in vMoL. If you have the void (small expanding circle under you that explodes after a short duration) and have CC-immunity active when the explosion goes of (the explosion will stun you no matter what) you can´t break free from the stun. I don´t know if it´s intended or not

The thing is PvE is full of game-defying rules because Boss NPC's don't necessarily follow normal ESO-physics. They've above the law.

Drachenfier · April 2018

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

CC immunity

Sky_WK · April 2018

Broken, been broken for a long time.

Armatesz · April 2018

Infinite stuns are a real thing, doesn't always have to be lag.

Also something to note that might seem funny to some but really needs to be considered. You can infinite stun someone and have them lifted up in the air every so often with certain abilities and you could literally kill them with fall damage. Lead a zerg before in pvp cyrodiil of a bunch of weak people where we had to find someone that was incredibly tanky.

rumple9 · April 2018

It's worse when its happening in PvE - every mob stuns or snares you and the game is not enjoyable since Dragonbones changes

O_LYKOS · April 2018

I'm experiencing this. Although I think coordinated groups are getting around this by using alternate skills which effectively cc in a different way. So a rotation of this ultimately means your cc'd over and over.