reoskit wrote: »

Holy cow. Digesting today's release of info.

Each crafting mat (ounce) is made up of 10 raw (dust). Fine.
Each trait mat is made up of 10 raw (pulverized)...
Each upgrade mat (bar) is made up of 10 raw (grains)...

Decon drops pulverized and grain - not full mats.

You cannot use a passive to research multiple traits at once, AND you cannot research traits for a necklace and a ring at once...

Get ready for a long hard slog, folks. I'm fine with investing time, but this is going to be laborious af.

What'd you think it was going to be???? Of course they are going to come up with something that is going to be a grind and keep people busy, lol I feel like saying well duh lol. Who wants content that is done and finished in a day the crafting of jewelry is really going to change up builds and gear to a degree. Crafted gear was good and for most part could replace dungeon gear not owned. But, it never had the power dungeon and region gear had due to jewelry.

Worth remembering, that Jewelry Crafting research times will be tied with Woodworking. 6 items with 3 slots available, vs 2 itmes with only one slot. So... yeah, this will actually be the fastest craft to do research on, which is why it will be such a murderous slog in comparison to Blacksmithing or Clothier which require four times the time.

This is fine.

just like the transmute system, when it launches you'll feel like you have no mats and can't do anything and then 6 months later you'll have so much stuff you'll be all "need another gold hundings ring, whatever <<craft craft>>"

I don't like grinds, but I'm not worried about this.

Any decent MMO that releases new content like this will develop it to ensure it is not blown up in a day. As has been pointed out here, and the preview article, this is not intended to have players running around in brand new crafted gold jewelry on the first day.

Especially considering Jewel crafting is a major selling point for the Summerset Chapter, they're going to make sure that it will not be completed right away, which would devalue a huge aspect of the Chapter.

This will take a while. Sure, if I could bang out a couple of sets of gold Hunding's and Julianos on day 1, I wouldn't complain. But then I'd have less to look forward to and a huge aspect of this Chapter would then be history for me.

As for the nodes, it will be just like when rubedite and ancestor silk hit the game. Everyone will clamor and race to tag those nodes before each other. But still in a matter of weeks, to a month or 2, there will end up being an abundance of it all in your banks or crafting bags. All these mats will probably go through an update or two of drop adjustments as well.

I don't have any gold jewelry on any of my characters. And I am not a deep enough player to ever acquire any as it is now. I got all 14 decked out in purples jewels. At least with this process, I will eventually have gold jewelry on my main characters, sooner than later, and potentially all 14 characters over more time. And what's even better about this, I don't even have to do the content that drops the trait. I don't have to PvP for the bloodthirsty trait. I will be able to buy it off a guild store. Obviously they will start very high, but in time, they will come down a bit. Could also lead to guild members working together to help each other acquire these as well. Much in the same way we all trade drops to each other that would be more useful.

I do understand many people play video games for the immediate gratification. I'm not slamming or condescending any of those who do. However, content like this, to be successful for a variety of reasons, needs a type of progression added to it. You'll find, once in application, it likely won't be as bad as you may be anticipating at this time.

Sorry for the rant. Had difficulty forming the exact points I wanted to make... Just trying to alleviate some people's concerns while the meds are kicking in.

Now to inform you all about the talking pink bunny sitting next to me, who is telling me to do things. Actually, on second thought, best not to repeat his ideas. They are most certainly against ToS, and few other incriminating terms out there as well... Would probably end up on an Interpol list, if not there already...


TLDR: The grind is necessary for this kind of content, but I don't think it will turn out as bad as some may be fearing.

KRBMMO wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Holy cow. Digesting today's release of info.

Each crafting mat (ounce) is made up of 10 raw (dust). Fine.
Each trait mat is made up of 10 raw (pulverized)...
Each upgrade mat (bar) is made up of 10 raw (grains)...

Decon drops pulverized and grain - not full mats.

You cannot use a passive to research multiple traits at once, AND you cannot research traits for a necklace and a ring at once...

Get ready for a long hard slog, folks. I'm fine with investing time, but this is going to be laborious af.

So we've been waiting three years for something lots of people really wanted and begged for but given up hope to ever get it and then when it comes we are disappointed we cant grind it out in 2 days and on day three again have everything in the game accomplished and find something else to complain about.

such 'tis the MMO disease.

You can have everything will just cost about 200$ irl

It will all depend on how much time you will dedicate to the process. You can get to 6 traits crafted in ten days, which will get you the better sets. Most crafted sets that go over six traits arent that desirable. As far as mats go itll be on how much time you put into farming, and how willing you are to biy things. When it comes to rings and necks, just research on two different toons. Or take about a month to get to 6 traits on both. Then after thst just rake the time to get to nine trait, itll come quicker than you think.

smacky wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Holy cow. Digesting today's release of info.

Each crafting mat (ounce) is made up of 10 raw (dust). Fine.
Each trait mat is made up of 10 raw (pulverized)...
Each upgrade mat (bar) is made up of 10 raw (grains)...

Decon drops pulverized and grain - not full mats.

You cannot use a passive to research multiple traits at once, AND you cannot research traits for a necklace and a ring at once...

Get ready for a long hard slog, folks. I'm fine with investing time, but this is going to be laborious af.

This is no different to the other crafting mats. You use 10 raw jute to create juts, it does not translate to 10 raw jute= 1 jute.

I also expect that heavy sacks and daily writs will drop full mats.

You're very correct. The 10=1 is true for upgrade mats and trait mats, but was not stated for the dust>ounce. Thank you for pointing this out.

ETA - I tried to go back to the first post and correct this point, but I don't have the Edit cog on that post? Apologies - if I could, I would.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Yeah, you're gonna want all your passives maxed and all research done before you start making jewelry. Should take about 6+ months?

I estimate about 6 months per piece, using the current system.

The notes said "current traits + 4 new traits" translating into more time for each of the new traits.

Speculation on my part, but this would make sense. JC keeps people playing, and drawing out research ensures they come back to the game to grind for mats in order to deconstruct/craft for exp gains.

What would truly blow is the gold level. If it's applied like Nirnhoned... ouch.

Azurya wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Holy cow. Digesting today's release of info.

Each crafting mat (ounce) is made up of 10 raw (dust). Fine.
Each trait mat is made up of 10 raw (pulverized)...
Each upgrade mat (bar) is made up of 10 raw (grains)...

Decon drops pulverized and grain - not full mats.

You cannot use a passive to research multiple traits at once, AND you cannot research traits for a necklace and a ring at once...

Get ready for a long hard slog, folks. I'm fine with investing time, but this is going to be laborious af.

so what..........

Could you be more specific in your question? Presumably that translates to "who cares?" to which I'd reply 3 pages of people here care, not to mention all the other threads about Jewelry Crafting. This is a forum, no? It is for discussing this game, no?

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Holy cow. Digesting today's release of info.

Each crafting mat (ounce) is made up of 10 raw (dust). Fine.
Each trait mat is made up of 10 raw (pulverized)...
Each upgrade mat (bar) is made up of 10 raw (grains)...

Decon drops pulverized and grain - not full mats.

You cannot use a passive to research multiple traits at once, AND you cannot research traits for a necklace and a ring at once...

Get ready for a long hard slog, folks. I'm fine with investing time, but this is going to be laborious af.

since when was clicking a button hard?

clicking a button isn't hard, but require ten times normal effort to make jewelry is just insane. i understand that there are some need to make gold jewelry rare. but that doesn't mean all crafting jewelry should be a pain on the @ss

smacky wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Holy cow. Digesting today's release of info.

Each crafting mat (ounce) is made up of 10 raw (dust). Fine.
Each trait mat is made up of 10 raw (pulverized)...
Each upgrade mat (bar) is made up of 10 raw (grains)...

Decon drops pulverized and grain - not full mats.

You cannot use a passive to research multiple traits at once, AND you cannot research traits for a necklace and a ring at once...

Get ready for a long hard slog, folks. I'm fine with investing time, but this is going to be laborious af.

since when was clicking a button hard?

clicking a button isn't hard, but require ten times normal effort to make jewelry is just insane. i understand that there are some need to make gold jewelry rare. but that doesn't mean all crafting jewelry should be a pain on the @ss

It is not 10 times harder to make jewellery.

It is the equivalent of making / upgrading any other item.

To make Viridian (Morag Tong Style Mat) you have to find and refine Viridian Dust from nodes in Vvardenfell.

It drops fairly regularly, and I expect the Crafting Mat will be the dropsite for the upgrade mats aswell for Jewellery.

The raw material should be just like farming and refining any other raw material.

This is the first time we'll have to gather raw materials for trait stone and upgrade materials. Obviously, style mats are not part of the equation as there is no visual rendering of neck/ring. However, style is purely cosmetic and does not in any way drive the performance of the gear it's on. Trait and upgrade quality do - traditionally, these mats have only ever dropped as whole mats.

So, it is not the equivalent.

Ah well its a good thing i have alot of jewelry saved up from running al akir dolmens for hours with all sorts of stats on them , mainly the arcane which i'd need to research to stick on all my other jewelry ofc.

I guess now then when people read this , then @Kroper is gonna get *** in the ass for running around Tamriel like a fat nerd buying up all the Willpower sets with arcane and upping the price to 40 and 50k gold , trying to see if he can make a big score, just because Alcast has released guides on youtube where he recommends it , lel.

JahneeO wrote: »

Honestly this is nothing anyone who has made a crafter isn’t used to. Legendary jewelry has been something that has been very hard to obtain all along.

The notion that they are breathing meaning into crafting again, by making it difficult, doesn’t bother me one bit.

Patience is its own reward.

Agree with you.

It's a grind and that's a good thing.

Gating crafting behind Trials. Nice one Zenimax.
<bends over and exposes hindquarters>
Come on, get it over with <sigh>