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Magicka Dragonknight Summerset build already available?
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Emothic✭✭✭✭The only change really coming to DKs is just some of it's abilities being changed to heal other players better. They trying to make it into a halfed as-ed templar class. Other then that, everything else is pretty much the same. Honestly, I'm just going to run the same MagDK/Flame build I have been running for the past 10 months.
Really, if you want my honest opinion about DKs. After running with it for about 3 and a half years. Mag DKs and Stamina DKs are the most balanced class in the game right now, and have been for about a year or two now. Hell with each major update or DLC you really don't have to do anything to make your DK competative. Meanwhile Sorcs, Temps, and NBs have to completely change up their entire build sometiems.Edited by Emothic on April 9, 2018 1:53AMLord Emothic Von Hellsing of ze Hellsing Family.
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Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The only change really coming to DKs is just some of it's abilities being changed to heal other players better. They trying to make it into a halfed as-ed templar class. Other then that, everything else is pretty much the same. Honestly, I'm just going to run the same MagDK/Flame build I have been running for the past 10 months.
Yep
Maybe twist the jewelry trait a little bit but that sounds like the plan0 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@spencer2361 yeah, but why post it? his builds are there for people to copy or start from. No one can copy this. He can't say if it'll even be decent when the PTS comes out. It's a gimmick.
@Emothic I think the 2x set bonuses will make things interesting.
Burning spell weave, zaan helm with silks of the sun? acuity? julianos?0 -
Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There was testing done during the playtest.
The build is there because of how stupidly strong it looks to be
It's also there to drive up the price of Elf Bane jewellery
Edited by Sixty5 on April 9, 2018 1:56AMLord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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Emothic✭✭✭✭The only change really coming to DKs is just some of it's abilities being changed to heal other players better. They trying to make it into a halfed as-ed templar class. Other then that, everything else is pretty much the same. Honestly, I'm just going to run the same MagDK/Flame build I have been running for the past 10 months.
Yep
Maybe twist the jewelry trait a little bit but that sounds like the plan
Hell for my MagDK I just run: Suducers Set, with Silks of the Sun, and Bloodspawn. If anything I may just change monster helms and that will be it. I don't have to change monster helms, But I figure I get slimeclaw for more crit and minor brutality.Lord Emothic Von Hellsing of ze Hellsing Family.
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Emothic✭✭✭✭@spencer2361 yeah, but why post it? his builds are there for people to copy or start from. No one can copy this. He can't say if it'll even be decent when the PTS comes out. It's a gimmick.
@Emothic I think the 2x set bonuses will make things interesting.
Burning spell weave, zaan helm with silks of the sun? acuity? julianos?
The Zaan monster set won't help me as I use Sword and Board. And my physical critical is only at 33%, It's not high enough for it to help me. I use sword and board for extra tankingness, more resorces, and I can have two 5 piece sets at once.
Lord Emothic Von Hellsing of ze Hellsing Family.
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xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I haven't seen the video you are talking about, but let's see if we can piece together what it possibly could be... BSW, Zaan and Elf Bane? Mainly Elf Bane/Zaan combo.
This kind of thing happened last chapter too with Mother's Sorrow. One minor change from ZoS before live, like making sure Elf Bane doesn't give the extra ticks to Zaan and poof - no longer OP.
Not that it wouldn't still be a solid set on a magDK, but it will be the go-to b/c of how overpowered it is, not just for being one of many solid options. The set is strong (arguably OP) as it is now in live, put it in where you can have a 2pc on staff and change the healthy trait jewelry to something more beneficial and it gets even crazier.-- @xaraan --
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Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I haven't seen the video you are talking about, but let's see if we can piece together what it possibly could be... BSW, Zaan and Elf Bane? Mainly Elf Bane/Zaan combo.
This kind of thing happened last chapter too with Mother's Sorrow. One minor change from ZoS before live, like making sure Elf Bane doesn't give the extra ticks to Zaan and poof - no longer OP.
Not that it wouldn't still be a solid set on a magDK, but it will be the go-to b/c of how overpowered it is, not just for being one of many solid options. The set is strong (arguably OP) as it is now in live, put it in where you can have a 2pc on staff and change the healthy trait jewelry to something more beneficial and it gets even crazier.
The interaction between Zaan and Elfbane is intended.Hey everyone!
We'd like to confirm that the Elf's Bane & Zaan combination is working as designed when it comes to the extra ticks, it's not a bug.
It's possible that it could be reviewed further down the line depending on player feedback, but as it stands at present, this is intentional.
We hope this helps!Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
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xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I haven't seen the video you are talking about, but let's see if we can piece together what it possibly could be... BSW, Zaan and Elf Bane? Mainly Elf Bane/Zaan combo.
This kind of thing happened last chapter too with Mother's Sorrow. One minor change from ZoS before live, like making sure Elf Bane doesn't give the extra ticks to Zaan and poof - no longer OP.
Not that it wouldn't still be a solid set on a magDK, but it will be the go-to b/c of how overpowered it is, not just for being one of many solid options. The set is strong (arguably OP) as it is now in live, put it in where you can have a 2pc on staff and change the healthy trait jewelry to something more beneficial and it gets even crazier.
The interaction between Zaan and Elfbane is intended.Hey everyone!
We'd like to confirm that the Elf's Bane & Zaan combination is working as designed when it comes to the extra ticks, it's not a bug.
It's possible that it could be reviewed further down the line depending on player feedback, but as it stands at present, this is intentional.
We hope this helps!
This means absolutely nothing to what I said.
I didn't say it was not intended. Read it again.
Simply said that it could be changed and personally think it should be.-- @xaraan --
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Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I haven't seen the video you are talking about, but let's see if we can piece together what it possibly could be... BSW, Zaan and Elf Bane? Mainly Elf Bane/Zaan combo.
This kind of thing happened last chapter too with Mother's Sorrow. One minor change from ZoS before live, like making sure Elf Bane doesn't give the extra ticks to Zaan and poof - no longer OP.
Not that it wouldn't still be a solid set on a magDK, but it will be the go-to b/c of how overpowered it is, not just for being one of many solid options. The set is strong (arguably OP) as it is now in live, put it in where you can have a 2pc on staff and change the healthy trait jewelry to something more beneficial and it gets even crazier.
The interaction between Zaan and Elfbane is intended.Hey everyone!
We'd like to confirm that the Elf's Bane & Zaan combination is working as designed when it comes to the extra ticks, it's not a bug.
It's possible that it could be reviewed further down the line depending on player feedback, but as it stands at present, this is intentional.
We hope this helps!
This means absolutely nothing to what I said.
I didn't say it was not intended. Read it again.
Simply said that it could be changed and personally think it should be.
Just pointing out that I wouldn't expect that change to happen, given the interaction is intended.
Also remember that to get the buff, you are giving up an entire 5 piece to do so, when you'd be able to run an additional damage set instead.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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XiDiabolismiX✭✭✭I would take Alcasts builds with a grain of salt and as a place to begin from. Youre not going to have bis and hit the highest capable dps from the respective builds he posts. Proficient in all, but master of few.
I give props to the guy for the amount of effort and work he puts into his builds though, because that is extremely tough to do to keep up on all of them patch after patch. However, I think you would benefit more from tracking down people that have mastered the class youre looking into. Someone who has spent the vast majority of their time in-game on said character.
Usually all it requires is alot of video searches of theorycrafters and dps testers, as well as watching their perspectives in raids or pvp to watch how they play the class.4 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I haven't seen the video you are talking about, but let's see if we can piece together what it possibly could be... BSW, Zaan and Elf Bane? Mainly Elf Bane/Zaan combo.
This kind of thing happened last chapter too with Mother's Sorrow. One minor change from ZoS before live, like making sure Elf Bane doesn't give the extra ticks to Zaan and poof - no longer OP.
Not that it wouldn't still be a solid set on a magDK, but it will be the go-to b/c of how overpowered it is, not just for being one of many solid options. The set is strong (arguably OP) as it is now in live, put it in where you can have a 2pc on staff and change the healthy trait jewelry to something more beneficial and it gets even crazier.
The interaction between Zaan and Elfbane is intended.Hey everyone!
We'd like to confirm that the Elf's Bane & Zaan combination is working as designed when it comes to the extra ticks, it's not a bug.
It's possible that it could be reviewed further down the line depending on player feedback, but as it stands at present, this is intentional.
We hope this helps!
This means absolutely nothing to what I said.
I didn't say it was not intended. Read it again.
Simply said that it could be changed and personally think it should be.
Just pointing out that I wouldn't expect that change to happen, given the interaction is intended.
Also remember that to get the buff, you are giving up an entire 5 piece to do so, when you'd be able to run an additional damage set instead.
You aren't giving anything up if you are a magDK with that set - it's already a solid set for them and would extend a ton of their fire dots. I think even if they didn't add it to Zaan that set would still perform well for DKs. Even these streamers feel the set combo is overperforming, esp for next patch, from what they've said in various videos.
But there are hundreds of things performing as intended every patch that get changed.
Players should go crazy before something is live. Nothing wrong if you see a good deal to pick something up, but don't go all out prepping for something that might not happen.-- @xaraan --
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I noticed that Alcast has posted a proposed "prototype" summerset build for MagDK. What do you guys think?
What should I think? Alcast's proposed specs are mostly the same every patch with little tweaks here and there. There's no variation or diversity in his builds so I'm not surprised he has already 'created' Summerset versions.Edited by Seraphayel on April 9, 2018 4:49AMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The only change really coming to DKs is just some of it's abilities being changed to heal other players better. They trying to make it into a halfed as-ed templar class. Other then that, everything else is pretty much the same. Honestly, I'm just going to run the same MagDK/Flame build I have been running for the past 10 months.
Really, if you want my honest opinion about DKs. After running with it for about 3 and a half years. Mag DKs and Stamina DKs are the most balanced class in the game right now, and have been for about a year or two now. Hell with each major update or DLC you really don't have to do anything to make your DK competative. Meanwhile Sorcs, Temps, and NBs have to completely change up their entire build sometiems.
Ehm........
I don´t know about what setups you´re running in PvE but magDK had to make some major changes to their playstyle the last few patches in order to be viable.
On topic:
I personally think Moondancer will be an attractive option as a frontbared set now that staves counts as two pieces. The new combustion passives seems nice, but I doubt (can be wrong of course) it will be enough to sustain the expensive skills of magDK. MD is a set that therefore synergies perfect for a magDK if you ask me. Personally I´ll probably end up using:
5 BSW (on body)
5 Moondancer (3 jewels + Inferno)
vMA backbar
Zaan/Skoria/Grothdarr
Not sure whether I´ll end up using force-pulse or whip as my main spammable. Further tests will have to decide that.Edited by Qbiken on April 9, 2018 5:51AM0 -
Saint_Bud✭✭✭✭The build depends on elfbane. If zos dont want that the set also work on zaan, there will be better combos i think. And of corse, if the new raid is playable for melee or the same pullshit as vas.PVP Saint-Bud magicka Templar: AR 49
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Alcast builds are a good base but if you don't change anything you are going be as effective as you can be. So while he caters to wider crowd. There are better people.
Healing ward on sorc healer...not over it yet.
For sold foundations of your class and role of all names I say doozgaming(how ever you spell it) is a better choice.0 -
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✭✭✭✭1. It's a prototype. Things could change
2. Anyone using a full carbon copy of Alcast's builds, including full rotation, are doing themselves a disservice as his builds are tuned with complete coordination with his trials group.
3. As people have said, use it as a base and not a 100% fact. See the end of point 2 for the reason whyGold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 502
