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Constructive Feeback to ZOS: Empowering Chains
Savos_Saren
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I know that you changed Empower to 40% extra damage to light attacks... however... this skill now seems a little out of place.
#1. Tank DKs will usually use Unrelenting Grip to pull enemies to their location in order to assist the Damage Dealers.
#2. PVE mDK Damage Dealers usually don't slot this skill.
#3. PVP mDK Damage Dealers use this skill to catch up to (and slow down) an enemy.
My suggestion is to change this skill to give Minor Vulnerability to the enemy target for 2 seconds. That way, it gives an mDK in PVP a stronger DoT if they apply it or slightly "empowers" (in the original sense of the word) the next attack... but only by 10%. You could rename the ability so that it doesn't have the word "empower" in it as well.
Does anyone else have a suggestion? I wanted to make the skill still viable... but toned down from it's original version. Two light attacks at 40% more damage seems... meh.
Edited by Savos_Saren on April 5, 2018 1:36PM #1. Tank DKs will usually use Unrelenting Grip to pull enemies to their location in order to assist the Damage Dealers.
#2. PVE mDK Damage Dealers usually don't slot this skill.
#3. PVP mDK Damage Dealers use this skill to catch up to (and slow down) an enemy.
My suggestion is to change this skill to give Minor Vulnerability to the enemy target for 2 seconds. That way, it gives an mDK in PVP a stronger DoT if they apply it or slightly "empowers" (in the original sense of the word) the next attack... but only by 10%. You could rename the ability so that it doesn't have the word "empower" in it as well.
Does anyone else have a suggestion? I wanted to make the skill still viable... but toned down from it's original version. Two light attacks at 40% more damage seems... meh.
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Savos Saren
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Sylvis✭✭✭Yeah I don't know how I feel about the changes to Empower in general. Seems like it will take away a lot of good skill combos/rotations. This would give DKs something unique though.Edited by Sylvis on April 6, 2018 11:02PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭to be honest its kind of meh for stamDks either way, but it doesnt sound too bad for mDks considering light attacks will now scale much better with magicka. I would say wait and test it before talking about it.
It might be better or worse depending on the new light/heavy attacks and how they scale.Edited by Ragnarock41 on April 7, 2018 12:15AM0 -
AverageJo3Gam3r✭✭✭✭✭It will be a net loss since most MDKs run 1HS. Empowering a crappy light attack won't make it good.0 -
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✭✭✭AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »It will be a net loss since most MDKs run 1HS. Empowering a crappy light attack won't make it good.
Thanks, Joe. That's what I'm talking about. Two light attacks off empowered chains with a SnB wouldn't be worth the rotation in PVP.
Adding a short duration of minor vulnerability would be the perfect compromise. It's not 20%... but it does help with an mDK's ability to put pressure on an opponent.
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✭✭✭Going to need to actually see the new LA buffs and Empower changes in action before it's prudent to start advocating for the removal of Empower from anything.Invictus
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Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
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✭It's used on pvp just by zerglings, to pool people into the Blob and swarm them.
A solo or Small Group MDK would never run chains. It's a free cc immunity with an insane costI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
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✭✭✭✭So for clarification, empower boosts your next two light attacks by 40% correct. That's the case for ambush, dark flare, and might of the guild as well?0 -
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✭✭✭It's used on pvp just by zerglings, to pool people into the Blob and swarm them.
A solo or Small Group MDK would never run chains. It's a free cc immunity with an insane cost
Empowering Chains doesn't pull people to you. That's Unrelentling Chains.Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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✭✭✭Going to need to actually see the new LA buffs and Empower changes in action before it's prudent to start advocating for the removal of Empower from anything.
True. But as stated above- buffing a SnB light attack on a magicka-based character still might not be advantageous.Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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