Please make enemies feel more alive
Vhozek
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Make them light attack faster, use more abilities, and rangers gain real distance without them simply walking away. Tank enemies should also at least use 1 tank ability like Spiked Armor.
PvE is too braindead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesn't even have to be hard so long as they feel engaging! Even if they gain no real stats. It's better than this bland stuff.
Invisible enemies should gain a 50% chance to appear behind you because if you just hold block, they are D O N E
Edited by Vhozek on April 6, 2018 7:02AM PvE is too braindead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesn't even have to be hard so long as they feel engaging! Even if they gain no real stats. It's better than this bland stuff.
Invisible enemies should gain a 50% chance to appear behind you because if you just hold block, they are D O N E
𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I want quests to feel like actual achievement instead of chore. Though some definitely getting better in new dlc.
Also reward system is meh. We need more consumables. Like some games would have arrows or jewels, bullets. I think we missing ascepts of need and desire to overland content. That's why craglorn didn't work out. There's no reason to do hard content.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »I want them at low health to beg for their lives...
Speaking of that have you ever killed a thunderbug? Like I genuinely question what I done when hear their after death sounds.0 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.4 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
LMFAO UNIRONICALLY BRINGING UP VET CONTENT AS AN ARGUMENT.
"HaBe U eBeM bOrEd U'reSeLf 2 deD b4 gEdDim 2da ok cOnTeNt?"𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
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✭- don't use champion points;
- make a hybrid mag/stam build;
- use random gear, no sets;
- don't use animation canceling;
- USE SWORD AND BOARD )
- use all heavy armor or wierd stuff like light armor of Fortified Brass;
- try to kill quest (not world ofcuz) bosses without other players;
It's kinda synthetic difficulty, yet something...5 -
Abysswarrior45✭✭✭✭Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
Except vMA is too easy now so why not?1 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭- don't use champion points;
- make a hybrid mag/stam build;
- use random gear, no sets;
- don't use animation canceling;
- USE SWORD AND BOARD )
- use all heavy armor or wierd stuff like light armor of Fortified Brass;
- try to kill quest (not world ofcuz) bosses without other players;
It's kinda synthetic difficulty, yet something...
Literally playing that right now. Not even worth it cause you get kicked out of dungeons.Edited by Vhozek on April 6, 2018 7:46AM𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
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✭✭✭Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
Except vMA is too easy now so why not?
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✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
Except vMA is too easy now so why not?
For you <.<
People are posting that their 9 year old got through vet trials while ignoring mechanics and only spamming skills𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
LMFAO UNIRONICALLY BRINGING UP VET CONTENT AS AN ARGUMENT.
"HaBe U eBeM bOrEd U'reSeLf 2 deD b4 gEdDim 2da ok cOnTeNt?"Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
Except vMA is too easy now so why not?
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✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
Except vMA is too easy now so why not?
For you <.<
People are posting that their 9 year old got through vet trials while ignoring mechanics and only spamming skills
No they aren’t. That guy posted that he takes a nap on the couch while his kid gets a turn, and one recent day he woke up to see that the kid was soloing NORMAL Fungal 1 final boss.Xbox NA6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There are enemies that are actually alive in Cyrodiil. Other players.
This is where the mandatory, "But I don't like PvP!" response comes into play, I know.
But...
If you want varied enemies who act unpredictable, get a small group together and go bust some zergs. Or try battlegrounds.
Seriously, get into PvP if you're looking for challenge from enimies...Unless what you're saying is you want stuff to be hard, but not too hard where you might die on a constant basis. Then I can't help you. PvE will always be somewhat scripted. But everything you are asking for and more can be found in PvP.
And judging by this response,Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
LMFAO UNIRONICALLY BRINGING UP VET CONTENT AS AN ARGUMENT.
"HaBe U eBeM bOrEd U'reSeLf 2 deD b4 gEdDim 2da ok cOnTeNt?"
I don't think you'll have a problem with any attitudes in PvP. I think you'll fit in just fine...
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Liddyenna✭✭✭Thanks but it's tough enough already for a level 20 newb.
No CP's or crafted sets, just using dropped gear and quest rewards.
Plenty challenging enough for me as it is.
Only time it felt too easy was when I tried the ESO class (Endless Sorcs Online)
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Please no. I don't want to take 45mins to finish a quest because the area only has VR10 trolls as enemies.FloppyTouch wrote: »Bring back old vet zone difficulty pls
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."3 -
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✭✭✭I think what would make them feel more alive, personally, is if they weren't standing around in groups of 3 - 5 in what seems to be a purely mathematically generated means of filling the space with enemies. Just more clever placement and shaking up the group dynamics. I'm so tired of the two-people-who-run-at-you-and-one-caster-in-the-back dynamic.✨🐦✨ Blackfeather Court Commission ✨🐦✨2 -
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Please no. I don't want to take 45mins to finish a quest because the area only has VR10 trolls as enemies.FloppyTouch wrote: »Bring back old vet zone difficulty pls
@Turelus I have a feeling that a lot of players these days don’t remember the “old” Craglorn. Or perhaps they’ve never experienced it. They don’t know and or remember what it meant to be a solo player, and encounter wasps in Craglorn. To be specific, the VR14 wasps. Or worse, the mages.Edited by Ch4mpTW on April 6, 2018 9:37AM1 -
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Please no. I don't want to take 45mins to finish a quest because the area only has VR10 trolls as enemies.FloppyTouch wrote: »Bring back old vet zone difficulty pls
@Turelus I have a feeling that a lot of players these days don’t remember the “old” Craglorn. Or perhaps they’ve never experienced it. They don’t know and or remember what it meant to be a solo player, and encounter wasps in Craglorn. To be specific, the VR14 wasps. Or worse, the mages.
****ING WASPS!!!!
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That one enchanting writ next to them... I still have nightmares.
Please no. I don't want to take 45mins to finish a quest because the area only has VR10 trolls as enemies.FloppyTouch wrote: »Bring back old vet zone difficulty pls
Turelus I have a feeling that a lot of players these days don’t remember the “old” Craglorn. Or perhaps they’ve never experienced it. They don’t know and or remember what it meant to be a solo player, and encounter wasps in Craglorn. To be specific, the VR14 wasps. Or worse, the mages.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Man, when I was finally able to start waxing those wasp hives, that's when I knew I was finally getting a handle on playing the game.0 -
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That one enchanting writ next to them... I still have nightmares.
Please no. I don't want to take 45mins to finish a quest because the area only has VR10 trolls as enemies.FloppyTouch wrote: »Bring back old vet zone difficulty pls
Turelus I have a feeling that a lot of players these days don’t remember the “old” Craglorn. Or perhaps they’ve never experienced it. They don’t know and or remember what it meant to be a solo player, and encounter wasps in Craglorn. To be specific, the VR14 wasps. Or worse, the mages.
Oh god, I, literally, almost referenced that survey in my last post.1 -
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✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
Except vMA is too easy now so why not?
For you <.<
People are posting that their 9 year old got through vet trials while ignoring mechanics and only spamming skills
The 9 year old got carried by someone who knows how to play, it's not that difficult to understand. And it happens all days for people of all ages, to get a big- fat- carry.
And it wasn't vet trials at all.
About the topic, I don't want to waste time when I go farming mats because of fights, there is plenty of activities to do that!
That just ruins the game for newcomers who die a lot already from overland mobs and people who go to farm mats or quest.
Edited by RANKK7 on April 6, 2018 10:17AMlll
"I really don't know who the **** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
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✭✭✭✭✭There are enemies that are actually alive in Cyrodiil. Other players.
This is where the mandatory, "But I don't like PvP!" response comes into play, I know.
But...
If you want varied enemies who act unpredictable, get a small group together and go bust some zergs. Or try battlegrounds.
Seriously, get into PvP if you're looking for challenge from enimies...Unless what you're saying is you want stuff to be hard, but not too hard where you might die on a constant basis. Then I can't help you. PvE will always be somewhat scripted. But everything you are asking for and more can be found in PvP.
And judging by this response,Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
LMFAO UNIRONICALLY BRINGING UP VET CONTENT AS AN ARGUMENT.
"HaBe U eBeM bOrEd U'reSeLf 2 deD b4 gEdDim 2da ok cOnTeNt?"
I don't think you'll have a problem with any attitudes in PvP. I think you'll fit in just fine...
This, so much this."We are currently investigating connection issues some players are having on the European megaservers. We will update as new information becomes available."
— They always claim they’re “investigating” the causes, but in reality they’re just waiting until the PC EU players go to bed. Once that happens, you can suddenly log in again and they happily mark the issue as Fixed.1 -
Aesthier✭✭✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Make them feel more alive you say...? Have you not set foot in VMA at all? They do everything from juggling you, to animation cancelling, to cancelling setup skills midway through. The Nightblades on Stage 9 even go into stealth, and ultimate you. I do not EVER want to see any of that stuff outside of VMA. Never. As is ZOS put leaping Clanfeers outside of VMA, which is very annoying. The game doesn’t need anything else slipping out from there.
Except vMA is too easy now so why not?
For you <.<
People are posting that their 9-year-old got through vet trials while ignoring mechanics and only spamming skills
People posting that are allowing their kids to use their accounts with their maxed out toons and massive resources as well.
If they are complaining that they one shot everything naked is it so surprising that their kid can kill stuff with it geared?Edited by Aesthier on April 6, 2018 10:43AM1 -
DoonerSeraph✭✭✭✭I wouldnt say "make them harder", but giving them more varied strategy. Archers and mages actively trying to avoid you, warriors trying to snare you from time to time or gap closing if you avoid them too much. Some sinergy between them like the oil and fire thing. Having the mages or healers buff others or even casting small shields? High CP people will still steamroll them but it would be nice to be surprised every now and then.1
