No...I won't 1v1 you in Cyro, and you shouldn't expect me to

MetalHead4x4 · April 2018

I have to laugh at certain players. I won't mention any names, but they wanna set rules in Cyro and complain when things don't quite go their way. Lets say a certain AD solo/small man group player takes a resource, it's well known they are running an OP Warden build that it takes multiple people to kill them. So a couple guys 3-4 chase him around the tower playing his game and he's hard to take down. I drop off the tower to see two more AD show up. I then get 3v1'd and die. Fair enough, thats Cyro. So I ride back up there to see no one else wanted to come try and fight the 3. I turn around to ride off, get knocked off my horse by the guard and the original AD guy pounces on me. Then he starts t-baggin me. I've always had respect for this guy as a strong player, so I get a little salty with him. He goes into this lecture about how I'm a zergling and any time more than one guy tries to kill him, he's gonna bag us. So he wants set rules in PvP. If he's solo, only another solo player should come to kill him. THAT'S NOT HOW CYRO WORKS.

I've been in a 4 man group, and beat his 4 man group. He denies it. But regardless if you wanna 1v1 stay out of Cyro. Cyro is a war, you kill the enemy. Now I don't run groups, I go to where the fighting is and I get kills. I don't ball up and drop destro ults, don't bomb, don't run VD. I like open area fighting/skirmishing, but to someone like this guy that's "zerging". I think they have forgotten that in a war zone like Cyro, they are fair game. If you know a guy is strong and you need 3 guys to take him down, that's not zerging. The average Joe players aren't gonna be a match for them.

Datthaw · April 2018

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Sixty5 · April 2018

What you do is reply "sure I will 1v1 you, come to X"

And then have your three buddies stealth up, so the moment he arrives you gank him, and then top it off with a liberal application of /sweep

All is fair in love and war, and Cyrodil is war.

Brutusmax1mus · April 2018

Lol i made a great video of me and 2 friends busting a group of reds (7 or 8?) fun from stealth that happened last night. We couldn't kill them straight up bc they had as many healers as our team was, i think. , so we changed our approach. Hilarious fun, i had to mute the audio we were laughing so hard.

It makes me think of people who take this game too seriously and how ruining thier fun is so much fun.

You do you op, but don't get pissed on others trying to have thier fun too.

kadar · April 2018

If he bagged you it means he's already a salt pile.

Morals or some sort of honor code in Cyrodiil is silly. It's for this reason I can't stand Shor. Everyone is either a really skilled player (in which case you're not allowed to kill them unless it's 1v1) or an absolute potato. It's....exhausting.

OGLezard · April 2018

The only standards I have in pvp are

1 ) I don't attack certain buddies because it's fun to watch multiple players try to kill them. I sometimes will gank them and we chuckle or I sometimes jump in the crowd that is fighting them because I know they will single me out sometimes and it gives the potatoes a chance.

2 ) if it is obvious to me that I am watching a duel of some kind when I am in the middle of no where, I don't interrupt and i do /sitchair unless I see someone unstealth from another faction and try to jump in on the duel, to which i hastily stop them or they follow me away.

My only standards.

After those, nothing applies. If I see one guy getting beat on by 12 people I will jump in because I am getting some of that action because it is better than playing horse simulator.......

Xsorus · April 2018

Sixty5 wrote: »

What you do is reply "sure I will 1v1 you, come to X"

And then have your three buddies stealth up, so the moment he arrives you gank him, and then top it off with a liberal application of /sweep

All is fair in love and war, and Cyrodil is war.

The amount of salt you’d get from that would get rid of every goiter in the world forever

Dillpat · April 2018

same to people doing quests crying over getting killed in town. Cyrodiil is a war zone lol. its like going to a Asylum Sanctorium and expecting St Ohms to just stand still and pray to RNJesus with u for a good drop.

ForsakenSin · April 2018

The only worse thing is getting killed by 4 people and then they T-Bag you.. its like really...really..?

PVP is war but that dose not mean you cant be respect by your enemy , long time ago i was in a group just 7 of us running towards Alesia i believe.. anyway on the way ive seen AD what appear to be a healer right in front of us, i told my group to leave him alone and go pass him and we did, i thought nothing off it .. few days later i was running by my self somewhere and ive seen a group of AD around 12 plus coming and first thing that came to my mind is "S#$T" im not going to bother to fight or run im just going to die and spawn somewhere.

To my surprise they ran right passed me and then the one guy on horse stooped and done that thing with horse when he goes on two back legs and it was the same guy who we didn't kill few nights ago and i placed the thank you momento and he wnt his way and i went my way.

I also like people who when i fight them they show like respect for the fight like they use cool momento ect

Joshlenoir · April 2018

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

I have to laugh at certain players. I won't mention any names

I know this is about me, but wow, someone is triggered.

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

but they wanna set rules in Cyro and complain when things don't quite go their way. Lets say a certain AD solo/small man group player takes a resource, it's well known they are running an OP Warden build that it takes multiple people to kill them.

"OP Warden Build" can you please tell me the build I'm running? clearly you don't actually have a clue what armor I have on, you're just spewing salt like a child over a player you're unable to kill without overwhelming numbers. Typical excuse from players that don't want to admit they're not good enough.

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

So a couple guys 3-4 chase him around the tower playing his game and he's hard to take down. I drop off the tower to see two more AD show up. I then get 3v1'd and die. Fair enough, thats Cyro. So I ride back up there to see no one else wanted to come try and fight the 3. I turn around to ride off, get knocked off my horse by the guard and the original AD guy pounces on me. Then he starts t-baggin me. I've always had respect for this guy as a strong player, so I get a little salty with him. He goes into this lecture about how I'm a zergling and any time more than one guy tries to kill him, he's gonna bag us. So he wants set rules in PvP. If he's solo, only another solo player should come to kill him. THAT'S NOT HOW CYRO WORKS.

Secondly, I was more than 3 people. It was about 5-6 people including you in a tower. I was getting minimal kills because they'd rez or respawn since the resource was right beside the keep (aleswell farm). Eventually 2 random AD's who I wasn't grouped with came into the tower and us 3 cleared everything up.

Look, I don't care how you choose to play but you're sorc that has 900+ CP's and still has to chase me around for numerous minutes with double cost increase poisons while using soul assault on a mag sorc and still couldn't land a kill. I found that hilarious and that is why I tbagged you.

After I tbagged you, you started sending me hate whisper about how I'm a little "female dog"(paraphrasing) and other tantrum related insults. I found it ironic you'd call me that considering the fact you never engage me without outnumbering me, and you still die when you do. I never said you weren't allowed to Xv1 me or zerg me down. I expect it, just don't throw tantrums when the people you try and zerg down tbag you for being annoying. I'm not allowed to dictate how you play, and you can't dictate what I do with my character.

Lastly, I never tried to "set rules in PvP". I just said multiple times that you shouldn't take me tbagging you to heart or seriously, I do it to everyone that chases me across the map with overwhelmingly large numbers and vigorously tries to kill me- especially someone that is max CP. I never said "only solo players can kill me" either. You're either being willfully ignorant to the points I made, or you're too much of an angry child to take what you dish out.
Also, I don't care about 1v1ing you in the grand scheme of things because I know I would win. I only brought up 1v1's because it usually shuts up salty players like yourself since you never actually fight people alone, but will send hate whispers like it changes anything.

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

I've been in a 4 man group, and beat his 4 man group. He denies it. But regardless if you wanna 1v1 stay out of Cyro. Cyro is a war, you kill the enemy. Now I don't run groups, I go to where the fighting is and I get kills. I don't ball up and drop destro ults, don't bomb, don't run VD. I like open area fighting/skirmishing, but to someone like this guy that's "zerging". I think they have forgotten that in a war zone like Cyro, they are fair game. If you know a guy is strong and you need 3 guys to take him down, that's not zerging. The average Joe players aren't gonna be a match for them.

It's not that I denied you beating my "4man group", I asked you for details which you couldn't actually provide, and after you always try and zerg me down it's a little hard to believe you'd actually try and fight me or my group with equal numbers (which, lets be honest, you won't).
I said you're a zergling because you've followed me across the map with 20+ people multiple times whether I was in a group of 4/5 or solo just to get 1 or a couple of measly kills. I have to spend an abnormal amount of time explaining these very simple nuances to you because you can't get it through your thick skull. I hope you understand now though.

edit: this should provide extra context about this players thought process.

Vapirko · April 2018

1vXers who go looking for outnumbered fights and then get salty when they can’t handle the X are so full of ***. I don’t get angry if I go looking for outnumbered fighting and then die, that’s *** dumb. You’re out there to push your limits. Typically I’m not gonna join in if I see someone being out numbered out on the map somewhere (i.e. they’re not taking a crucial point on the map or engaging in siege), but if I see three or four good players fighting a ragtag group of five or six pugs/noobs, I’m prob gonna jump in cause it’s not even close to a fair fight to begin with. Most of the real solo players are pretty cool people. There’s just a handful of people around who can’t handle their *** when they lose, because they need to be smashing hordes of pugs or life isn’t worth living or something. A coordinated, com linked group of four is easily worth double the number of your average, uncoordinated pvper. So when these groups get bitchy because you’re not attacking them with exactly the same numbers they have it’s just kind of bs. The only time I ever challenge someone to 1v1 is if they tbag after outnumbering me.

Ultimate_Overlord · April 2018

I really dont understand what your problem is. You whispered that guy, he told you that if you try to zerg him and get 1vxed, he will teabag you. He just set a rule for himself. If you dont wanna get teabagged - dont xv1, if you wanna xv1 - dont complain about getting teabagged.

Passifest · April 2018

I laugh at players like you too op. We can all laugh at each other thinking ourselves right.

Dovahmiim · April 2018

Lol I've seen this guy raging at people in DC zone chat. The only reasons to turn down a 1v1 in Cyrodiil is that you are well aware you will lose, but are too prideful to admit it; or you have already 1v1'd and beaten that person. In the case of Daevyn, I think he is more or less admitting that he requires the numbers advantage to kill anyone half decent, which is definitely a step in the right direction. This is objectively a zergling mindset, but if he is okay with this reality, then there isn't an issue really.

MetalHead4x4 · April 2018

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

I really dont understand what your problem is. You whispered that guy, he told you that if you try to zerg him and get 1vxed, he will teabag you. He just set a rule for himself. If you dont wanna get teabagged - dont xv1, if you wanna xv1 - dont complain about getting teabagged.

I was tea-bagged by him after another 2 AD showed up and I got 3v1'd. I didn't whine and call them zerglings. I had not got a kill on him at all. But he wants to take a resource and then cry that 3-4 guys show up to kill him. He can set whatever rules he wants for himself but he can't complain about people running him down when he's solo and calling them zerglings when he knows no one is gonna say "Oh its Josh, lets just take turns 1v1ing him".

He doesn't set the rules for gameplay, and he doesn't define how others play. Anytime someone says "so and so is at so and so" there's gonna be a line of people who wanna kill them cause they know they are strong players.

He's acting all butthurt over fair gameplay. Me and a NB killed him 2v1 the other night, caught him off guard. Fair gameplay. When I was fighting a NB he came and Dawnbreakered me from behind and starts tea-baggin. I never did that to him. Always had respect for him, but now he's gonna call everyone who kills him a zergling if the numbers aren't in his favor.

Then he starts his: "You'll never 1v1 me cause you're a zergling you just run people down with greater numbers. I'll 1v1 you on my Templar, on my Warden, on this on that. I'm such a badass solo."

Well play solo then, but you're not gonna find your perfect scenario line of 1v1's in Cyro. You can't change the game to cater to the .01% of solo players.

ToRelax · April 2018

Dovahmiim wrote: »

Lol I've seen this guy raging at people in DC zone chat. The only reasons to turn down a 1v1 in Cyrodiil is that you are well aware you will lose, but are too prideful to admit it; or you have already 1v1'd and beaten that person. In the case of Daevyn, I think he is more or less admitting that he requires the numbers advantage to kill anyone half decent, which is definitely a step in the right direction. This is objectively a zergling mindset, but if he is okay with this reality, then there isn't an issue really.

I disagree with that, sometimes I have a group to run with or just don't want to spend my time dueling because someone's ego got hurt; that's not what I come to Cyrodiil for.

imredneckson · April 2018

What works for me in situations like this are I have a good laugh and start chatting with the player who t-bagged me. I've made more than just a few buddies doing this. Other than that I don't t-bag or send hate tells. Lol the last player who send me a hate tell, I thought they were having a bad day so I sent them a few tri-pots and immovable pots to try and cheer them up xD.

Ultimate_Overlord · April 2018

@MetalHead4x4 There was no mention of him complaining about getting xv1ed and, by the looks of it, you are the one who whispered 1st and started being salty. Doesnt matter anyway, the man himself is here so you should prob argue with him instead.

Vapirko · April 2018

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

I really dont understand what your problem is. You whispered that guy, he told you that if you try to zerg him and get 1vxed, he will teabag you. He just set a rule for himself. If you dont wanna get teabagged - dont xv1, if you wanna xv1 - dont complain about getting teabagged.

I was tea-bagged by him after another 2 AD showed up and I got 3v1'd. I didn't whine and call them zerglings. I had not got a kill on him at all. But he wants to take a resource and then cry that 3-4 guys show up to kill him. He can set whatever rules he wants for himself but he can't complain about people running him down when he's solo and calling them zerglings when he knows no one is gonna say "Oh its Josh, lets just take turns 1v1ing him".

He doesn't set the rules for gameplay, and he doesn't define how others play. Anytime someone says "so and so is at so and so" there's gonna be a line of people who wanna kill them cause they know they are strong players.

He's acting all butthurt over fair gameplay. Me and a NB killed him 2v1 the other night, caught him off guard. Fair gameplay. When I was fighting a NB he came and Dawnbreakered me from behind and starts tea-baggin. I never did that to him. Always had respect for him, but now he's gonna call everyone who kills him a zergling if the numbers aren't in his favor.

Then he starts his: "You'll never 1v1 me cause you're a zergling you just run people down with greater numbers. I'll 1v1 you on my Templar, on my Warden, on this on that. I'm such a badass solo."

Well play solo then, but you're not gonna find your perfect scenario line of 1v1's in Cyro. You can't change the game to cater to the .01% of solo players.

These types of players also have no issue Xv1ing people themselves. They usually site the the reason that they could 1v1 you so it doesn’t matter. I say that’s bs. If you’re gonna call people out for outnumbering and then turn around and do the same thing you’re arguments are invalid. Doesn’t matter if you’re better than the person you Xv1 or not.

Joshlenoir · April 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

1vXers who go looking for outnumbered fights and then get salty when they can’t handle the X are so full of ***. I don’t get angry if I go looking for outnumbered fighting and then die, that’s *** dumb. You’re out there to push your limits. Typically I’m not gonna join in if I see someone being out numbered out on the map somewhere (i.e. they’re not taking a crucial point on the map or engaging in siege), but if I see three or four good players fighting a ragtag group of five or six pugs/noobs, I’m prob gonna jump in cause it’s not even close to a fair fight to begin with. Most of the real solo players are pretty cool people. There’s just a handful of people around who can’t handle their *** when they lose, because they need to be smashing hordes of pugs or life isn’t worth living or something. A coordinated, com linked group of four is easily worth double the number of your average, uncoordinated pvper. So when these groups get bitchy because you’re not attacking them with exactly the same numbers they have it’s just kind of bs. The only time I ever challenge someone to 1v1 is if they tbag after outnumbering me.

Are you talking about me? lol
I don't think I belong to that category.
But I'll reiterate my original point:
I don't care about dying or getting attacked by superior numbers, I have much more fun killing even groups of 4 that are organized in a 4v4 than I do 4v8ing random low cp unorganized pugs. The issue is when you're getting outnumbered by the pugs AND the organized groups, then they are surprised when you tbag them- or they blame you winning on an "OP WARDEN BUILD"- Or cheat engine lmao.

MetalHead4x4 · April 2018

I'll fight anyone 1v1, you win some you lose some. It doesn't really matter how many people are chasing you around a tower. You're in a war zone, you take a resource you're gonna get a response. You can laugh all you want, I run a pretty basic setup, 5 Shacklebreaker/5 Wizards on back bar and Infernal Guardian. I only run 2600 spell damage and 38k magicka. Half of most fights I'm out of magicka. I don't like meta builds, I don't animation cancel and I don't run BIS builds cause I'm too lazy to farm it. I don't find myself in solo situations often so I don't build for it. I skirmish. I hold my own pretty well against people that I think are the best players with a mediocre setup. So I'm fine with my level of skill.

Actually I nearly killed you a few times with Soul Strike but lost line of sight as you sped around the tower fleeing with your wings tucked between your legs. I've fought in a 4 man against 4 of your guys on your Templar and beat you. I don't have details? I told you it was at Glade Mine back behind it some time back. Sorry I didn't record it to turn over into evidence.

"It's not that I denied you beating my "4man group", I asked you for details which you couldn't actually provide, 1. and after you always try and zerg me down it's a little hard to believe you'd actually try and fight me or my group with equal numbers (which, lets be honest, you won't).
2. I said you're a zergling because you've followed me across the map with 20+ people multiple times whether I was in a group of 4/5 or solo just to get 1 or a couple of measly kills."

1. Yeah I will, have many times. 2. It's Cyro buddy, it's war. You think it doesn't happen to me too?

3. "I never said you weren't allowed to Xv1 me or zerg me down. I expect it, just don't throw tantrums when the people you try and zerg down tbag you for being annoying."

3. If you're so annoyed at fair gameplay in a war zone, maybe you should stick to Battlegrounds. No zergs there to annoy you.

I'll see ya out there.

StaticWave · April 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

1vXers who go looking for outnumbered fights and then get salty when they can’t handle the X are so full of ***. I don’t get angry if I go looking for outnumbered fighting and then die, that’s *** dumb. You’re out there to push your limits. Typically I’m not gonna join in if I see someone being out numbered out on the map somewhere (i.e. they’re not taking a crucial point on the map or engaging in siege), but if I see three or four good players fighting a ragtag group of five or six pugs/noobs, I’m prob gonna jump in cause it’s not even close to a fair fight to begin with. Most of the real solo players are pretty cool people. There’s just a handful of people around who can’t handle their *** when they lose, because they need to be smashing hordes of pugs or life isn’t worth living or something. A coordinated, com linked group of four is easily worth double the number of your average, uncoordinated pvper. So when these groups get bitchy because you’re not attacking them with exactly the same numbers they have it’s just kind of bs. The only time I ever challenge someone to 1v1 is if they tbag after outnumbering me.

We need to clear somethings up because you're totally misunderstanding the situation.

First of all, 1vXers don't "go looking for outnumbered fights". If you have soloed at least once in your PvP life, which I will give you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you have, you'll know that there are 3 types of soloists: The ganker, the zerg surfer, and the resource capper.

They all play differently, but there is one common ground between them: They all get zerged down, regardless of whether they want it or not.

Gankers build for high damage, low survivability, so it makes no sense that they would want to get into a 1vX situation, because that's asking to die.

Zerg surfers want quick fights, so they may either fight with their faction's zerg, or go to the enemy zerg's back line. If they get mad that they get zerged, then that's their fault because when they zerg surf, they will face an enemy zerg.

The resource cappers are different. They're taking an objective, not killing people. You don't know their motive for capping resources. Assuming that they are 1vXers who are looking for outnumbered fights and get salty when they get zerged is simply not right. They could be trying to get AP to level up their skill line, but they don't want to deal with the lag around a zerg, or they could be trying to help their faction out by cutting off the enemy's transit.

Here is where you are wrong. Soloists don't look for outnumbered fights. The fights come to them, whether they want to or not. How does it make sense to send 20 people to recap a single resource from a single player? How does it make sense that 20 players branch off from their original path, just to kill one player? Do you see my point? I don't become a 1vXer because I'm out there constantly looking for outnumbered fights. I become a 1vXer because people try to Xv1 me, then I survive and end up the victor. I become a 1vXer because of people that will do everything they can to kill me, even if it means chasing me from Sej to Alessia on their mount, but only to fail because they collectively lack the skill to beat me. Nobody asks for that. Assuming that us soloists all want to look for outnumbered fights is wrong.

By your logic, Xv1ers shouldn't get salty when the 1vXer actually manages to kill then tbags them. If you 5v1 someone and die in the process, then you deserve to get tbagged.

olsborg · April 2018

Dueling is a very different kind of pvp compared to open world cyro. I get asked to 1v1 all the time and these guys go into their CP, their skills and also change their sets around if you say «sure lets duel». These people want every kind of advantage over you that they can get. This is why my rule is -you dont duel in cyro, you war in cyro-

MetalHead4x4 · April 2018

How does it make sense to send 20 people to recap a single resource from a single player? How does it make sense that 20 players branch off from their original path, just to kill one player?

How does it make sense to send 1 guy when their might be 20 there? Or 1 guy to deal with 1? You often don't know until you get there. I want tough fights. If I hear a tough player is somewhere thats where I go. I often die, comes with the territory but i wanna fight the best. I go after the people no one else wants to fight, I want the challenge, I learn from it. You'd have Kodi running around on his Warden with 20 people chasing him and he won't die its ridiculous. Thats why so many people go after them.

ToRelax · April 2018

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

How does it make sense to send 20 people to recap a single resource from a single player? How does it make sense that 20 players branch off from their original path, just to kill one player?

How does it make sense to send 1 guy when their might be 20 there? Or 1 guy to deal with 1? You often don't know until you get there. I want tough fights. If I hear a tough player is somewhere thats where I go. I often die, comes with the territory but i wanna fight the best. I go after the people no one else wants to fight, I want the challenge, I learn from it. You'd have Kodi running around on his Warden with 20 people chasing him and he won't die its ridiculous. Thats why so many people go after them.

Dovahmiim · April 2018

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

How does it make sense to send 20 people to recap a single resource from a single player? How does it make sense that 20 players branch off from their original path, just to kill one player?

How does it make sense to send 1 guy when their might be 20 there? Or 1 guy to deal with 1? You often don't know until you get there. I want tough fights. If I hear a tough player is somewhere thats where I go. I often die, comes with the territory but i wanna fight the best. I go after the people no one else wants to fight, I want the challenge, I learn from it. You'd have Kodi running around on his Warden with 20 people chasing him and he won't die its ridiculous. Thats why so many people go after them.

This is legitimately comedy gold

"I want tough fights" - proceeds to Xv1

MetalHead4x4 · April 2018

Dovahmiim wrote: »

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

How does it make sense to send 20 people to recap a single resource from a single player? How does it make sense that 20 players branch off from their original path, just to kill one player?

How does it make sense to send 1 guy when their might be 20 there? Or 1 guy to deal with 1? You often don't know until you get there. I want tough fights. If I hear a tough player is somewhere thats where I go. I often die, comes with the territory but i wanna fight the best. I go after the people no one else wants to fight, I want the challenge, I learn from it. You'd have Kodi running around on his Warden with 20 people chasing him and he won't die its ridiculous. Thats why so many people go after them.

This is legitimately comedy gold "I want tough fights" - proceeds to Xv1

I can't control who else shows up. I'm by myself. It might be a group (more often than not) not someone solo. What's comedic is your lack of an understanding of the situation. I see in chat "Chipsworth and crew at X Mine" thats where I go. It's like 90% a small man group not one guy. Quite often it takes Xv1 to take them down especially playing ring around the tower games. You don't get to pick and choose your numbers.

StaticWave · April 2018

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

How does it make sense to send 20 people to recap a single resource from a single player? How does it make sense that 20 players branch off from their original path, just to kill one player?

How does it make sense to send 1 guy when their might be 20 there? Or 1 guy to deal with 1? You often don't know until you get there. I want tough fights. If I hear a tough player is somewhere thats where I go. I often die, comes with the territory but i wanna fight the best. I go after the people no one else wants to fight, I want the challenge, I learn from it. You'd have Kodi running around on his Warden with 20 people chasing him and he won't die its ridiculous. Thats why so many people go after them.

Actually, it makes a lot of sense to send 1 guy instead of 20. It's called reconnaissance. Armies do it all the time in the real world. Do you scout an area with 20 people? If you look at the game from a strategic view point it makes no sense to have 20 people go check a resource when you can use your numbers for a more important objective like capping a keep. This is what zerglings don't get.

StaticWave · April 2018

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

How does it make sense to send 20 people to recap a single resource from a single player? How does it make sense that 20 players branch off from their original path, just to kill one player?

How does it make sense to send 1 guy when their might be 20 there? Or 1 guy to deal with 1? You often don't know until you get there. I want tough fights. If I hear a tough player is somewhere thats where I go. I often die, comes with the territory but i wanna fight the best. I go after the people no one else wants to fight, I want the challenge, I learn from it. You'd have Kodi running around on his Warden with 20 people chasing him and he won't die its ridiculous. Thats why so many people go after them.

So basically you want to learn from fighting tough players, but you will also shamelessly outnumber your opponent because you think he/she's a better player than you and that's how you learn from them. Alright then I think I've found the reason why you got tbagged by Josh.

Passifest · April 2018

Daevyen just stop man you're embarrassing yourself. The idea that you look for fights where you out number the enemy in order to get better is laughable. If you want to actively get better as an individual then you should try 1vsX'ing, 2vsX'ing, or 1vs1ing even. Otherwise you aren't really pushing yourself. If you want your skill to stagnate then continue doing what you're doing. That is my honest advice.

MetalHead4x4 · April 2018

StaticWave wrote: »

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

How does it make sense to send 20 people to recap a single resource from a single player? How does it make sense that 20 players branch off from their original path, just to kill one player?

How does it make sense to send 1 guy when their might be 20 there? Or 1 guy to deal with 1? You often don't know until you get there. I want tough fights. If I hear a tough player is somewhere thats where I go. I often die, comes with the territory but i wanna fight the best. I go after the people no one else wants to fight, I want the challenge, I learn from it. You'd have Kodi running around on his Warden with 20 people chasing him and he won't die its ridiculous. Thats why so many people go after them.

So basically you want to learn from fighting tough players, but you will also shamelessly outnumber your opponent because you think he/she's a better player than you and that's how you learn from them. Alright then I think I've found the reason why you got tbagged by Josh.

There's always someone better. I'm not choosing to outnumber them, it's just random who shows up. Some people get mowed down within seconds so all thats left is you. Or a couple good players. I mean if these solo guys thrive on showing people who is the best, fight as an underdog it just ups your credentials.

As far as recon, you have no control over random people in game. If the resource flags there is no "send one guy" no one is leading everyone.