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Transmute crystal cap
CheepsNSalsa
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Just realized I've been collecting all transmute crystals from anniversary boxes even though I'm at the 200/200 cap. I estimate I've wasted between 50 and 100 crystals already. Why is there a cap at all? Why am I able to claim them from boxes if they just disappear into the ether? Seems like an oversight on ZoS part.
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Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Agreed about the cap. Seems silly. They should be tradeable too.
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RANKK7✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have destroyed 200+ from old pledges containers, rewards campaign, festival and whatnot and I don't care, I cannot become insane taking care of that too, running to transmute station to not waste them every time, to transmute what? I did all I wanted, no need now. Am I about to transmute items in a crappy trait to transmute them again in the good trait for the sake to not waste crystals?
I'm sure I will be in need so much when summerset comes, will farm then, now I destroy. I really got tired to fight with inventory during these days.lll
"I really don't know who the **** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
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Guarlet✭✭✭✭✭For all the complainers, I'll reiterate my comment from a previous thread on exactly the same topic:I feel like this is done on purpose - ESO doesn't want us hoarding tons of crystals so that we can instantly swap out entire sets the first day of a patch and be done. We will still have to do content for them and farm them like everyone else.
It's annoying to me too, over half my inventory is taken up by unopened crystals lol. But I'm okay with what I suspect is the reasoning behind it.AKA The Goblinator, PC/EU4 -
Number_51✭✭✭✭✭Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't actually tried, but it doesn't actually cost a trait gem to transmute something does it? Seems like transmuting a weapon to Nirnhoned and deconstructing for the chance to get a Nirncrux back might be profitable if you're just going to destroy crystals anyway.
Just to be on topic, I do agree with wondering why there's a cap in the first place. Particularly since they aren't trade-able.Edited by Number_51 on April 5, 2018 6:55PM4 -
RANKK7✭✭✭✭✭
✭its too low and while we are at it, so is how many quests you can have open
Agreed, that's a very ridiculous cap, cmon 25 is way too low, 6 are just writs, if you do the pledges is 9 already!
I have one character who does quests and always have to delete some of them from the journal the moment I arrive at writs boards.
Edited by RANKK7 on April 5, 2018 6:54PMlll
"I really don't know who the **** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CheepsNSalsa wrote: »Why am I able to claim them from boxes if they just disappear into the ether? Seems like an oversight on ZoS part.
Having to delete each anniversary box with crystals (likely having to type DELETE each time, since they're gold), would be a massive pain. I'm glad they don't force this.
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wonder if the cap will increase with Summerset. Since we will be unable to obtain current jewelry in the new traits, it's not like we can farm for the correct jewelry trait. We will need to transmute jewelry to take advantage of the new traits. And a 200 cap is entirely unsuitable for that.Edited by jaws343 on April 5, 2018 7:09PM0 -
pauli133✭✭✭✭✭
✭The cap exists for three reasons:
One: it preserves the value of traits on dropped gear. If we weren't forced to choose carefully what we transmute, the trait on dropped gear would be irrelevant - this means less motivation to play (ie, grind), as well as harming the player-based economy.
Two: it prevents significant stockpiling in the lead-up to new content. The ability to immediately convert all dropped gear from new DLC to the best-in-slot trait on day one, in full sets and across multiple characters, would drastically harm the gameplay experience.
Three: it gives you something to come back for on a recurring basis, while also providing a healthy cap to grinding. I'm out of crystals - time for more dungeons, more trials, more PvP (in all its forms). Ok, now I'm full, I can stop.
There's also the bonus reason, because ZOS: by tying the cap to ESO+, they found a way to monetize it.4 -
joaaocaampos✭✭✭✭✭When Update 18 comes live, you'll have to spend a lot of Transmute Crystals. Because of the jewels. Jewelry will usually only come with Health, Robust and Arcane. Unless you make specific content. So prepare to spend many Crystals.1 -
Wrecking_Blow_Spam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't actually tried, but it doesn't actually cost a trait gem to transmute something does it? Seems like transmuting a weapon to Nirnhoned and deconstructing for the chance to get a Nirncrux back might be profitable if you're just going to destroy crystals anyway.
Just to be on topic, I do agree with wondering why there's a cap in the first place. Particularly since they aren't trade-able.
I'll correct you as you are wrong.
Every weapon I've transmutated to nirnhoned needed a potent nirncruxEdited by Wrecking_Blow_Spam on April 5, 2018 7:31PMXbox one EU
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They cap them so there is still potentially a grind each patch. Agree or disagree, dont really care, but that is the reason why.
I only got around 30 transmute stones out of 127 boxes, so 100 seems like a unrealistic estimate, but who knows.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on April 5, 2018 7:34PM0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't actually tried, but it doesn't actually cost a trait gem to transmute something does it? Seems like transmuting a weapon to Nirnhoned and deconstructing for the chance to get a Nirncrux back might be profitable if you're just going to destroy crystals anyway.
Just to be on topic, I do agree with wondering why there's a cap in the first place. Particularly since they aren't trade-able.
I'll correct you as you are wrong.
Every weapon I've transmutated to nirnhoned needed a potent nirncrux
That is not true. I have transmuted items to nirnhoned without having any potent nirncrux. Transmutation does not use a trait gem. You do need to have nirnhoned researched on that gear slot but that is it.3 -
Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't actually tried, but it doesn't actually cost a trait gem to transmute something does it? Seems like transmuting a weapon to Nirnhoned and deconstructing for the chance to get a Nirncrux back might be profitable if you're just going to destroy crystals anyway.
Just to be on topic, I do agree with wondering why there's a cap in the first place. Particularly since they aren't trade-able.
I'll correct you as you are wrong.
Every weapon I've transmutated to nirnhoned needed a potent nirncrux
Nope
Thought the same way, bummed a nincrux of a mate for an Axe last week, did the transmute, brought another to pay him back, opened craft bag, and I had two in there, where before there was none.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I’ve never had any issues using transmute crystals and keeping under the cap ... and I PvP quite a bit.
I don’t see what the issue is with the cap.
The transmute system provides a “finish line” for players to complete sets they need in the right trait. Transmutation does not substitute for players actually running content to get gear ... which is what an unlimited cap would adversely do.
Edited by Taleof2Cities on April 5, 2018 8:29PM2 -
lygerseye✭✭✭✭✭Just confirmed: it does not consume trait material to transmute an item. The risk is that there’s no guarantee you’ll get the trait material when you decon (I didn’t just now).0 -
Azurya✭✭✭✭✭
✭CheepsNSalsa wrote: »Just realized I've been collecting all transmute crystals from anniversary boxes even though I'm at the 200/200 cap. I estimate I've wasted between 50 and 100 crystals already. Why is there a cap at all? Why am I able to claim them from boxes if they just disappear into the ether? Seems like an oversight on ZoS part.
why don´t you change weapons to nirn, deconstruct them, sell the nirn in guildstore, always functions very well
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Azurya✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't actually tried, but it doesn't actually cost a trait gem to transmute something does it? Seems like transmuting a weapon to Nirnhoned and deconstructing for the chance to get a Nirncrux back might be profitable if you're just going to destroy crystals anyway.
Just to be on topic, I do agree with wondering why there's a cap in the first place. Particularly since they aren't trade-able.
I'll correct you as you are wrong.
Every weapon I've transmutated to nirnhoned needed a potent nirncrux
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Moloch1514✭✭✭✭✭
✭For Summerset, just get a lot of your Characters to Tier 3 Cyrodiil rewards level and you get 50 per character. Then hold on those characters until update releases. I have at least 2 50 crystal boxes already waiting on several alts.PC-NA1 -
Number_51✭✭✭✭✭Moloch1514 wrote: »For Summerset, just get a lot of your Characters to Tier 3 Cyrodiil rewards level and you get 50 per character. Then hold on those characters until update releases. I have at least 2 50 crystal boxes already waiting on several alts.
Tier 1 rewards also give 50 for Vivec campaign, no need to spend a bunch of time there on alts. I did six chars this past month and 3 of them only made it to tier 1, 2 made tier 2, and only 1 made tier 3. All 6 got the same 50 crystal containers.Edited by Number_51 on April 5, 2018 8:55PM2 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Moloch1514 wrote: »For Summerset, just get a lot of your Characters to Tier 3 Cyrodiil rewards level and you get 50 per character. Then hold on those characters until update releases. I have at least 2 50 crystal boxes already waiting on several alts.
Tier 1 rewards also give 50 for Vivec campaign, no need to spend a bunch of time there on alts. I did six chars this past month and 3 of them only made it to tier 1, 2 made tier 2, and only 1 made tier 3. All 6 got the same 50 crystal containers.
Yeah, that is what I do across 10 of my characters right now. 500 crystals each month guaranteed.0 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The crystal cap needs to go. It's clunky and pointless when you can just keep geodes in your inventory anyway. Its intended purpose of creating a bottleneck only serves to clog up your inventory with geodes instead.3 -
Soleya✭✭✭✭✭
✭Two: it prevents significant stockpiling in the lead-up to new content. The ability to immediately convert all dropped gear from new DLC to the best-in-slot trait on day one, in full sets and across multiple characters, would drastically harm the gameplay experience.
Since people can just hoard geodes, it actually doesn't stop anyone from stockpiling if they really want to.2 -
Guarlet✭✭✭✭✭Two: it prevents significant stockpiling in the lead-up to new content. The ability to immediately convert all dropped gear from new DLC to the best-in-slot trait on day one, in full sets and across multiple characters, would drastically harm the gameplay experience.
Since people can just hoard geodes, it actually doesn't stop anyone from stockpiling if they really want to.
But it creates a penalty for doing so, so it reduces this behaviour. I'm sure some people throw out extra crystals rather than deal with a clogged bag all the time.AKA The Goblinator, PC/EU2 -
Hurtfan✭✭✭✭✭At least cap it at 500 crystals, that way you can transmute more than 4 pieces of gear at once.For the Pact!Keyboard not found, press any key to continue0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Two: it prevents significant stockpiling in the lead-up to new content. The ability to immediately convert all dropped gear from new DLC to the best-in-slot trait on day one, in full sets and across multiple characters, would drastically harm the gameplay experience.
Since people can just hoard geodes, it actually doesn't stop anyone from stockpiling if they really want to.
But it creates a penalty for doing so, so it reduces this behaviour. I'm sure some people throw out extra crystals rather than deal with a clogged bag all the time.
But with PVP characters, you aren't really ever picking up a lot of extra stuff in your inventory. So the geodes aren't hurting you to horde them.0 -
Gprime31✭✭✭✭For all the complainers, I'll reiterate my comment from a previous thread on exactly the same topic:I feel like this is done on purpose - ESO doesn't want us hoarding tons of crystals so that we can instantly swap out entire sets the first day of a patch and be done. We will still have to do content for them and farm them like everyone else.
It's annoying to me too, over half my inventory is taken up by unopened crystals lol. But I'm okay with what I suspect is the reasoning behind it.
Who are they to tell us how to play??? We are paying their salaries after all0
