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Is there a reason two towns are close to ad that can be captured while there is only one north
Jake1576
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Ad has two towns close to are home keeps while there is only one that can be captured by dc/ep home keeps chorrol and shadenhall should be made the other towns that can be captured since this anniversary event is going on the two towns close to ads home keeps really put us at a disadvantage since ep and dc are doing dailys there for the boxes will this ever be corrected
Edited by ZOS_JesC on April 5, 2018 3:23PM 2
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NoTimeToWait✭✭✭✭✭The fact that you are a troll or not a native speaker is not a reason not to put some punctuation to make your idea more coherent14 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭NoTimeToWait wrote: »The fact that you are a troll or not a native speaker is not a reason not to put some punctuation to make your idea more coherent
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭you will note that 97% and Greater of the time you are in cryodiil that EP owns both Cropsford And Drake, showing it red on the Map.
that is a constant event that you can count on, because those are both EP Territory.0 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask meEdited by Jake1576 on April 5, 2018 2:05PM2 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Brindle is an AD home Castle.
FYI AD Castles:
Bloodmayne
Black Boot
Fargyle
Brindle
Roebeck
edit - Your lack of punctuation may have confused me on this one.
smhEdited by TequilaFire on April 5, 2018 2:14PM2 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It works both ways. Capturing the towns is also nice for staging an attack on these keeps, especially if you flag them simultaneously. I agree though the ride is a bit long.Edited by Feanor on April 5, 2018 2:10PMMain characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Having 2 close towns has pros and cons.
The terrain around all 3 alliance's home keeps are not perfectly balanced, either. That's okay too. It's open world PvP with no real long term consequences and emergent strategy, not an esport.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub1 -
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✭✭✭NoTimeToWait wrote: »The fact that you are a troll or not a native speaker is not a reason not to put some punctuation to make your idea more coherent
Yeah, it has been painful reading the person's posts in another thread.NoTimeToWait wrote: »The fact that you are a troll or not a native speaker is not a reason not to put some punctuation to make your idea more coherent
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Hit space twice and it will put in a period. You are welcome.
How does it even matter that you are on a phone? Period is right there on the keyboard just like the letters.5 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭In order for everything to be equal, Bruma needs to be moved further west and Cropsford needs to be moved further north. The current system puts AD at a disadvantage for sure.
Edit: every team has 1 "fringe keep" these are Dclaw, Drakelowe, and Brindle. Each of those is owned by an alliance and AD is the only one with a potential enemy spawn point behind their fringe keep. So Cropsford needs to be north of Drakelowe and Bruma needs to be West of Dragonclaw just like Vlastrus is south of Brindle.Edited by Apache_Kid on April 5, 2018 2:30PM3 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Brindle is an AD home keep.
smh
I never really payed much attention to which home keep was ads forth one lolTequilaFire wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Brindle is an AD home Castle.
FYI AD Castles:
Bloodmayne
Black Boot
Fargyle
Brindle
Roebeck
smh
Never really payed much attention to which keeps was ads home keeps I just usually see a keep flagged that ad owns and ride there to defend it lol but even if Drake is a ep home keep that still puts ep closer to are other three when they own cropsford if we want to control bruma its like a 10 minute ride lol and not to mention there is only one town up that far so ad has to battle two other alliances just to keep it as to where there are two separate towns down south ep or DC can controlEdited by Jake1576 on April 5, 2018 2:18PM0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Brindle is an AD home keep.
smh
I never really payed much attention to which home keep was ads forth one lolTequilaFire wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Brindle is an AD home Castle.
FYI AD Castles:
Bloodmayne
Black Boot
Fargyle
Brindle
Roebeck
smh
Never really payed much attention to which keeps was ads home keeps I just usually see a keep flagged that ad owns and ride there to defend it lol but even if Drake is a ep home keep that still puts ep closer to are other three when they own cropsford if we want to control bruma its like a 10 minute ride lol and not to mention there is only one town up that far so ad has to battle to other alliances just to keep it as to where there are two separate towns down south ep or DC can control
You really should they control home keep bonus.Edited by TequilaFire on April 5, 2018 2:18PM1 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Brindle is an AD home keep.
smh
I never really payed much attention to which home keep was ads forth one lolTequilaFire wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Brindle is an AD home Castle.
FYI AD Castles:
Bloodmayne
Black Boot
Fargyle
Brindle
Roebeck
smh
Never really payed much attention to which keeps was ads home keeps I just usually see a keep flagged that ad owns and ride there to defend it lol but even if Drake is a ep home keep that still puts ep closer to are other three when they own cropsford if we want to control bruma its like a 10 minute ride lol and not to mention there is only one town up that far so ad has to battle to other alliances just to keep it as to where there are two separate towns down south ep or DC can control
You really should they control home keep bonus.
Lol yeah probably I knew the three but didn't realize roe and brindle was considered ad home keeps that even makes it worse tho cause that puts ep close to alessia and DC close to roebeck ugh I just wished they would reconsider the whole town thing and rework it lol this anniversary thing happening right now is crazy crops yesterday flipped a ton I was there trying to do guest and while I was ep kept trying to take it over and over again ad had ep gated at the time so I guess they was trying to get a foothold down south or something to pull ad back I understand it just don't like it lol0 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »In order for everything to be equal, Beuma needs to be moved further west and Cropsford needs to be moved further north. The current system puts AD at a disadvantage for sure.
Edit: every team has 1 "fringe keep" these are Dclaw, Drakelowe, and Brindle. Each of those is owned by an alliance and AD is the only one with a potential enemy spawn point behind their fringe keep. So Cropsford needs to be north of Drakelowe and Bruma needs to be West of Dragonclaw just like Vlastrus is south of Brindle.
Either this or just add chorrol and shadenhall as a town that could be captured I mean if would still be a long ride but it would be fair keep vlastrus as a town that could be captured but move it more north in a fair position that would make it equally as far for DC and ep to capture make chorrol where it can be captured and make shadenhall where it can be captured1 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭I'm not sure why they are setup the way they are perhaps lore purposes if that is the case that's a goofy reason to give ad such a disadvantage1
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✭✭NoTimeToWait wrote: »The fact that you are a troll or not a native speaker is not a reason not to put some punctuation to make your idea more coherent
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✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Keeps are EP
Castles are AD
Forts are DC
that's all
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✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you are a bit lost friend so let me point you in the right Direction:
Drake belongs to EP
Drake is an EP Home Keep. and that includes cropsford.
I don't think so if that be the case then what would be considered ads forth home keep brindle and dragonclaw is DCs forth home keep maybe your right but still the position the towns are in makes ad at a disadvantage are home keeps are more open to be captured from both sides then ep/dc home keeps I just suggest they make chorrol or shadenhall one of the other towns it wasn't well thought out if you ask me
Keeps are EP
Castles are AD
Forts are DC
that's all
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It certainly isn't like that for proper balance reasons.0 -
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- Bruma is south and slightly west of Dragonclaw (slightly DC placement)
- Vlastarus is south of Brindle (completely AD placement)
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✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you will note that 97% and Greater of the time you are in cryodiil that EP owns both Cropsford And Drake, showing it red on the Map.
that is a constant event that you can count on, because those are both EP Territory.
Easy to say that when 2 of the towns are close to AD trikeeps/gatekeeps.
Check how far Bruma is from Warden/Rayles and especially how far Cropsford is from Farragut/Kingscrest and say again that the towns are balanced. How delusional are you trying to defend this?Edited by Master_Kas on April 5, 2018 4:19PMEU | PC1 -
Agrippa_Invisus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you will note that 97% and Greater of the time you are in cryodiil that EP owns both Cropsford And Drake, showing it red on the Map.
that is a constant event that you can count on, because those are both EP Territory.
Easy to say that when 2 of the towns are close to AD trikeeps/gatekeeps.
Check how far Bruma is from Warden/Rayles and especially how far Cropsford is from Farragut/Kingscrest and say again that the towns are balanced. How delusional are you trying to defend this?
Aside from hyperbole about the percentage of time EP maintains ownership of Drake, what was inaccurate here?
He didn't even defend it, per se, just stated that Crops is in EP territory.
Which it is, as anything north of the Upper Niben River (ya know, that river that runs from Lake Rumare to Bravil and then off the map?) is EP homeland. Crops is north of the Niben, so yeah, EP territory.
Is it the most distant of the towns from a friendly keep? Yes. Is it very near the AD / EP border (the River)? Yeah, it's pretty close.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you will note that 97% and Greater of the time you are in cryodiil that EP owns both Cropsford And Drake, showing it red on the Map.
that is a constant event that you can count on, because those are both EP Territory.
Easy to say that when 2 of the towns are close to AD trikeeps/gatekeeps.
Check how far Bruma is from Warden/Rayles and especially how far Cropsford is from Farragut/Kingscrest and say again that the towns are balanced. How delusional are you trying to defend this?
Aside from hyperbole about the percentage of time EP maintains ownership of Drake, what was inaccurate here?
He didn't even defend it, per se, just stated that Crops is in EP territory.
Which it is, as anything north of the Upper Niben River (ya know, that river that runs from Lake Rumare to Bravil and then off the map?) is EP homeland. Crops is north of the Niben, so yeah, EP territory.
Is it the most distant of the towns from a friendly keep? Yes. Is it very near the AD / EP border (the River)? Yeah, it's pretty close.
Well then the original post didn't say wether the town was in EP or AD territory, but that it is to close to AD trikeeps while being to far away from EP ones. Which it is and it's unbalanced.
Dwemer wrote as if it was okay just because it's in "EP territory. It's not and it shouldn't be there plain and simple.EU | PC0 -
Agrippa_Invisus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »you will note that 97% and Greater of the time you are in cryodiil that EP owns both Cropsford And Drake, showing it red on the Map.
that is a constant event that you can count on, because those are both EP Territory.
Easy to say that when 2 of the towns are close to AD trikeeps/gatekeeps.
Check how far Bruma is from Warden/Rayles and especially how far Cropsford is from Farragut/Kingscrest and say again that the towns are balanced. How delusional are you trying to defend this?
Aside from hyperbole about the percentage of time EP maintains ownership of Drake, what was inaccurate here?
He didn't even defend it, per se, just stated that Crops is in EP territory.
Which it is, as anything north of the Upper Niben River (ya know, that river that runs from Lake Rumare to Bravil and then off the map?) is EP homeland. Crops is north of the Niben, so yeah, EP territory.
Is it the most distant of the towns from a friendly keep? Yes. Is it very near the AD / EP border (the River)? Yeah, it's pretty close.
Well then the original post didn't say wether the town was in EP or AD territory, but that it is to close to AD trikeeps while being to far away from EP ones. Which it is and it's unbalanced.
Dwemer wrote as if it was okay just because it's in "EP territory. It's not and it shouldn't be there plain and simple.
Its placement is the unfortunate side affect of the map being designed when towns were never initially meant to be spawn points, plus trying to maintain some fidelity (if only a little) to the Cyrodiil map from TES IV: Oblivion.
Due to the amount of effort it would take with regards to map design to move Cropsford, I seriously doubt it'll get moved, either.
And yes, Cropsford is the most 'out there' town. Bruma and Vlast are both closer to their own respective outpost keeps and allow for deeper access into their owner's home territory when taken than Cropsford does. That's just reality.
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